Dennard should have been the #1. The OP is wrong calling him slow. Ran faster than Sherman and Haden two of the best CBs in the league.

Dennard will be a good player in the NFL for a long time but I see why they went with Ford. By taking Ford @ 23 the CHIEFS knew they couldn't get a comparable player in the third round. They knew that there was a much better chance to get a good CB in the third which they did in Gaines.

Ford + Gaines > Dennard + 3rd round OLB.

This is really ****ing stupid.

If someone comes on here and says that Dee Ford is the next DT, then that is pushing it.

But people are saying that he has some attributes that remind them of DT.

There is nothing weong with that.

His first and second steps are comparable. Maybe not equal, but Ford has a lethal "get off".

So where is the production?

Any dude with "lethal" get off, combined with that size and strength, should be absolutely destroying dudes. The guy averaged 5 sacks a year for his college career and 25 tackles per season. That absolutely sucks balls for a guy with "lethal get off."

I seriously want to know why he didn't produce at a higher level on a national championship caliber team.

I don't give a flying **** about his "get off" on ESPN's Sports Science bit.

I do care about why he didn't really do jack shit at the college level.

That's my main problem with Ford too, his lack of production despite really good measurables.

dontari, poe



guy was a worthless piece of shit in a shitty conference in college...one year later he is the best young nt in the league

i have no clue how that happens, but it did

You must not have watched. He was a beast last year. Watch the Georgia game. Watch the Texas A&M game. Watch the national championship. Watch the senior bowl.hell he was getting pressure on QB's in games like LSU and MU as well.

The guy had a sack in 5 straight games last year. I swear do people watch this guy? He was one of the most productive defenders in the entire draft last year.

But KC wasn't forced to go OLB in round 3. They could have filled an immediate need at WR or OG.

Ford shows tons of promise as a pass rusher, but he was pretty much invisible in run defense and has had a lot of nagging injuries. You have to hope he can hold up against the increased speed and power of the NFL.

He had 29 total tackles last season.

That is absolutely horrible.

Only 3 forced fumbles for his entire career.

That is horrible.

Only three passes defensed for his entire college career.

That is horrible.

Only 27.5 tackles for loss for his college career. That includes his 20.5 sacks. That means he only made 7.5 tfl beyond his sacks. That is horrible.

The guy had absolutely no impact other than his sacks, which maxed out at 10.5 in the 2013 season.

How does that relate to productive?

Apparently I'm missing something here.

It's pretty obvious that Dee Ford was not a finished product last year and he kept getting better and better as time went on.
You can't really ask for much from him in terms of coverage bc he rarely did that at Auburn.
Looking at his tape, his run stopping problems seem to be bc he is over pursuing. This would be coachable and I bet that's the thought behind this.
He still needs to get stronger, but a year in an nfl weight training program should help.

Dorsey is picking players based on potential and he's starting them off slow. He did it with Fisher and now he's doing it with Ford. Let's see what happens.

sacc's dream draft would like this:

1. Mazlowski
2. Mazlowski
3. Mazlowski
4. Mazlowski
5. Mazlowski
6. Mazlowski
7. Mazlowski



over-achieving schlub who puts up meaningless numbers and isn't in any way a game changer...aka a guard

I am in total agreement with Sac on Ford. I see nothing but a huge neon sign flashing BUST BUST BUST.... it could be BUSTS BUSTS BUSTS and I'm half drunk in front of a strip club...

In any event, yes, guys like Dee Ford turn it on in the pros and become very good players, such as Dontari Poe. Those stories are rare. There are far more Vernon Gholstons of the world. I'm very worried KC wasted a 1st round pick given what I seen from the kid in college, as I was with Poe. I do hope they strike lightning in a bottle twice, but the odds are forever not in their favor.. ,

I dont think Ford is a high risk of being a flat out bust, but I do think that he is a risk of never being anything more than a situational pass rusher. That being said, he can have a long and productive career in such a limited role.

Robert Mathis is a guy with a similar build. He had 20 combined tackles and 3.5 sacks in his rookie yr as a situational pass rusher. In his second yr he had 10.5 sacks and 36 combined tackles. That being said, Mathis forced a lot of fumbles.

The good thing is that Dee Ford is far from a finished product and is open to coaching. Here is an example:

I have read stories of Houston praising Hali for teaching him so much about being a pro. Already Hali has taken Dee Ford under his wing (who is already playing piano with Hali's daughter). Ford will have every opportunity to maximize his natural talents with the help of Hali and Houston. Thats the most we can ask for at this point.

I don't see how this is like Poe? Ford made huge impacts in several games against the best competition in the country.
He seems very willing to learn and has great confidence. He doesn't appear to be lazy to me.