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Coochie liquor 09-10-2014 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by BigMeatballDave (Post 10899055)
Ocala
This. It even says the name in the article. Fail!

DenverChief 09-10-2014 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 10899215)
I would say freedom of speech supercedes said law. Still, not able to get too worked up about this.
Thats what I was thinking - First Amendment - on private property - what reasonable argument could the city make for restricting his right to fly that flag.

DenverChief 09-10-2014 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 10899364)
Based on the pic in the OP, this looks like a size issue.
LMAO 200 Inches = 16 feet - If thats a 16 foot flag I have a wife

DenverChief 09-10-2014 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 10899338)
It's hard to say without knowing the language of the ordinance. If it is as he says, and only official American flags are allowed, then that's allowing a particular form of political expression and not another.

Again, I think he should just protest to the city and get it handled that way. Still, I think I understand the source of the outrage, if not the degree.
I'd bet the ACLU would handle the lawsuit

Randallflagg 09-10-2014 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 10899313)
Only allowing people to fly American flags? Flying a flag (which in this case is patriotic anyway, not that it should matter) isn't protected free speech? The anti-outrage crowd is every bit as crazy as the pro-outrage crowd.

That's sort of the rub here.....there are American flags with Mexican flags all over the business district. He's merely flying a flag that is as much a part of America as the American flag. The "city" doesn't like it.

Frankly, I say sue the city.

Randallflagg 09-10-2014 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 10899331)
This isn't a free speech issue if it applies to all flags rather than just political ones.

It's illegal for me to build a fence across my sidewalk. Freedom of speech doesn't give me the right to build a fence across my sidewalk as long as I write a political message on it.

Having this flag up isn't illegal because of what it says. It's illegal because it's a flag, and there is a law against having flags.
If that is truly the case, the city had better begin enforcing their "law" among every other business in the city and, oh, while they're at it, better take that flag down at City Hall....

Jesus, what is happening to this country.....

Saul Good 09-10-2014 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by DenverChief (Post 10899540)
LMAO 200 Inches = 16 feet - If thats a 16 foot flag I have a wife
I guess that's true if the flag is one inch wide. 16 inches long by 12.5 inches wide is 200 square inches. The flag in this picture looks to be a standard 3' by 5', which is 2,160 square inches...11 times the permissible size.

What's the point in getting worked up over this? It's not a political issue. It has nothing to do with the image/verbiage on the flag. It's a simple city ordinance limiting the size of flags outside buildings. It's not like they're stopping him from displaying the biggest Gadsden flag on Earth inside his building. You just don't get to turn a little shopping district into Tijuana by blocking the sidewalk/walkway with giant signs, flags, etc.

cosmo20002 09-10-2014 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by DenverChief (Post 10899540)
LMAO 200 Inches = 16 feet - If thats a 16 foot flag I have a wife
200 SQUARE inches.

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-10-2014 09:53 AM
Hate speech!

Eleazar 09-10-2014 09:54 AM
That means a 12" x 18" flag would be just slightly too large for a city ordinance. That appears to be a standard size 3' by 5' flag, so it's safe to say he is in violation.

Gonzo 09-10-2014 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 10899535)
This. It even says the name in the article. Fail!
I fixed it... It confused me.

Beef Supreme 09-10-2014 12:05 PM
In the spirit of the flag he is flying, he should tell them to shove it up their ass and fly it anyway.

Valiant 09-10-2014 12:06 PM
Reddit posted a supreme Court case on this in California. California lost. Will happen here also. Just depends how quick.

ghak99 09-10-2014 02:10 PM
I only watched ~10 seconds.

I'm guessing the ordinance was originally to keep people from flogging the pedestrians with bedsheets as they walked down the sidewalk, but 200 square inches sounds awfully small.

I would hope they enforced this ordinance equally among the rest of the businesses and didn't just single out killer pricing on knives boy.

mikey23545 09-10-2014 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ghak99 (Post 10900414)
I only watched ~10 seconds.

I'm guessing the ordinance was originally to keep people from flogging the pedestrians with bedsheets as they walked down the sidewalk, but 200 square inches sounds awfully small.

I would hope they enforced this ordinance equally among the rest of the businesses and didn't just single out killer pricing on knives boy.
He was singled out I'm sure, for an obvious reason that everyone seems to be tip-toeing around.

Everyone knows what political movement this flag has become associated with.


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