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Chiefs4TheWin 09-14-2014 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10914921)
If Dee Ford ends up being a good pass rusher, he's a good pick. Period. I'm not convinced he will be, but he plays a very critical position.

Drafting for need is the same strategy we pull every ****ing year. We yelled BPA from the top of our lungs, and now all of a sudden we're back to drafting for need.
Was he honestly the BPA? I think that's where I'm iffy.

KCrockaholic 09-14-2014 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10914921)
If Dee Ford ends up being a good pass rusher, he's a good pick. Period. I'm not convinced he will be, but he plays a very critical position.

Drafting for need is the same strategy we pull every ****ing year. We yelled BPA from the top of our lungs, and now all of a sudden we're back to drafting for need.
Dee Ford wasn't BPA is the problem.

ChiTown 09-14-2014 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 10914905)
EVERY year should be a win now year.

Every team outside of KC seems to understand this.

This is not 1980. You can turn a team completely around in one year and win a SB with second year players in key positions...
No it's outrageous to think you should win now coming off a year you go to the playoffs. Plain stupid! Slow the momentum, get rid of all trash, add a lot of new garbage, and let's start over.

Whiskey
Tango
Foxtrot

Easy 6 09-14-2014 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Raiderhader (Post 10914871)
Poe got a sack.
Did he no shit? I must've already given up and was making some dinner at that point.

Glad to hear he hasnt packed it in yet, was beginning to wonder about him.

chiefzilla1501 09-14-2014 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10914903)
Cause even though we might have about 8 starters who are good enough to win a championship with, the rest are far from good enough. And now we lost 1 of those guys for the season and two others are dinged up and might be out a few weeks.
I started laughing so hard I farted and shit in my pants.

These 8 starters are good enough to win a championship with? We were missing 3 pro bowlers today and we almost beat the new and improved AFC champions. We played our entire bench last year and almost beat a team that the next week went on to crush Cincinnati in the playoffs.

I like Charles, Berry, DJ, Hali, etc... but these guys haven't won shit for us. Anybody who thinks this year was the year to start building a championship winner is kidding themselves.

FloridaMan88 09-14-2014 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 10914905)
EVERY year should be a win now year.

Every team outside of KC seems to understand this.

This is not 1980. You can turn a team completely around in one year and win a SB with second year players in key positions...
THIS X one million.

Raiderhater 09-14-2014 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 10914954)
Did he no shit? I must've already given up and was making some dinner at that point.

Glad to hear he hasnt packed it in yet, was beginning to wonder about him.
Manning folded like Cassel. It was pretty. But in the end obviously not enough.

FloridaMan88 09-14-2014 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10914962)
Anybody who thinks this year was the year to start building a championship winner is kidding themselves.
So what year is?

2017?

2018?

Alert us when the Chiefs will be ready to be a "win now" team.

And before you answer keep in mind the Chiefs just gave a $68 million contract extension to their 30 year old starting QB.

chiefzilla1501 09-14-2014 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Chiefs4TheWin (Post 10914944)
Was he honestly the BPA? I think that's where I'm iffy.
I am not a fan of the Ford pick. But we won't know that until we give him some damn time to show what he is at all.

When you're talking about high positional value players in the low first round, you are often betting on some of the upside risk. I am much more happy with this pick than a conservative pick for, say, an o-lineman which would have helped us immensely for now but it's the same layup bullshit we do ever year including last year.

Chief_For_Life58 09-14-2014 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 10914556)
There's no place for him on the field.

He can't cover. He can't defend the run. There's literally only a handful of plays in any given week where he should/could be on the field. Unless Hali or Houston take a dive with an injury you wont see him much until the Chiefs either cut Hali next year or watch Houston walk for a 3rd round comp pick in 2016.
Kill me now

Rausch 09-14-2014 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10914921)
If Dee Ford ends up being a good pass rusher, he's a good pick. Period. I'm not convinced he will be, but he plays a very critical position.

Drafting for need is the same strategy we pull every ****ing year. We yelled BPA from the top of our lungs, and now all of a sudden we're back to drafting for need.
Here's the thing: Dee Ford wasn't even the BPA.

If he was your argument has legs.

It doesn't because there were better players on the board when we picked...

Rausch 09-14-2014 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10914937)
That's hilarious.
Which part do you disagree with?

milkman 09-14-2014 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10914921)
If Dee Ford ends up being a good pass rusher, he's a good pick. Period. I'm not convinced he will be, but he plays a very critical position.

Drafting for need is the same strategy we pull every ****ing year. We yelled BPA from the top of our lungs, and now all of a sudden we're back to drafting for need.
You can argue startegy all you want, Rufus, but there's no way in hell a project player is the best player available.

And make no mistake about it, Dee Ford, with nothing more than a quick first step in his arsenal, is a project.

And that is also exactly what Fisher was.

Cheater5 09-14-2014 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 10914954)
Did he no shit? I must've already given up and was making some dinner at that point.

Glad to hear he hasnt packed it in yet, was beginning to wonder about him.
Hali got the sack, not Poe.

OldSchool 09-14-2014 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 10915002)
Here's the thing: Dee Ford wasn't even the BPA.

If he was your argument has legs.

It doesn't because there were better players on the board when we picked...
Pretty much this. Ford wasn't even the best OLB prospect available at our pick, Attaochu was heads and shoulders above him.


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