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ShortRoundChief 09-25-2014 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 10947124)
Overrated horseshit fan speak.

Mentoring is nothing more than fans wet dreams.

This.

A wetdream created by sports announcers and movies.

chiefzilla1501 09-25-2014 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 505 Chief (Post 10946471)
I'd rather lose DJ than Tamba.

I disagree. Tamba costs 3 times as much and he plays a position that relies on physical talent. Doubt he's worth 14 mil next year and doubt he settles for a cap friendly restructuring. Some team will overpay him in his twilight years and it shouldn't be the Chiefs. Dj is playing out a deal that's one hell of a bargain for the Chiefs. He plays a position where just the mental side could keep him playing at a high level for 5 more years and I could see his knee injury giving the Chiefs leverage to negotiate a cheap contract. If the Chiefs get dj below 5 mil and especially way below 5 mil, which I think they can, that's still a great deal even at the back end of his career.

DeathByArrows 09-25-2014 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Steron (Post 10947104)
Leadership. Leadership; Leadership. His cap number doesn't cripple the team. He's invaluable as a mentor to younger players. Smart, instinctive players can still make plays when their physical tools deteriorate.

Leadership doesn't mean squat if you can't play. Look at Ed Reed, great mentor, one of the best safeties of all time, yet once he lost a step it was over. After the Texans cut him last year he couldn't have paid someone to sign him, the only team that even sniffed him was the Jets because of his relationship with Rex. Then after the season was over, even Rex wouldn't touch him with a ten foot pole.

Easy 6 09-25-2014 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10947499)
I disagree. Tamba costs 3 times as much and he plays a position that relies on physical talent. Doubt he's worth 14 mil next year and doubt he settles for a cap friendly restructuring. Some team will overpay him in his twilight years and it shouldn't be the Chiefs. Dj is playing out a deal that's one hell of a bargain for the Chiefs. He plays a position where just the mental side could keep him playing at a high level for 5 more years and I could see his knee injury giving the Chiefs leverage to negotiate a cheap contract. If the Chiefs get dj below 5 mil and especially way below 5 mil, which I think they can, that's still a great deal even at the back end of his career.

Gotta disagree about DJ, its hard to see him recovering well enough at his age to approximate what he was... and for FIVE more years?

All emotion and romanticism for his lifelong career here aside... this is a young mans game and the next DJ is out there somewhere just dying to be a pro for a lot less money.

chiefzilla1501 09-25-2014 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 10947758)
Gotta disagree about DJ, its hard to see him recovering well enough at his age to approximate what he was... and for FIVE more years?

All emotion and romanticism for his lifelong career here aside... this is a young mans game and the next DJ is out there somewhere just dying to be a pro for a lot less money.

I think he will still be a good player. Smarts can still carry him. At ILB, I'm okay with good since at linebacker he can get away with not being dominant physically. Whereas if Hali is anything short of great at olb, get him out of there.

This is all assuming, of course, we get him on the cheap which I think we can.

The Bad Guy 09-25-2014 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10945936)
Berry, on a bad heel and with a troublesome ankle, is likely not going to have the speed to play centerfield.

DJ is almost certain to be cut, as is Hali, barring a restructuring. If Houston only has an eight sack year, giving him a franchise tag might look a little foolish. If he wants to be the highest paid OLB in football and isn't giving you surplus value by doing it, he's better off elsewhere.

Daniel and Bray should both be cut next year.

Nearly the entire OL should be blown up.

DeVito should be gone. Catapano is a myth

I don't think a high ankle sprain and a bruised heel are going to be long-term injuries that plague the player forever.

Berry is only 25. Maybe I'm being naive, but I'm not worried about his speed or these 2 early season injuries being any factor in 2015.

Direckshun 09-26-2014 05:34 AM

You guys are high if you think the Chiefs should let Bowe walk.

You need a Bowe on a playoff team. He has the talent, though not the brains and toughness, of a #1 WR. What this team needs is an additional #1 WR to complement him.

The FA class next year is ****ing terrible. The Chiefs shouldn't cut Bowe to be financially reasonable. They can still shore up about $25m in selective cuts without budging on him -- enough to re-sign Hudson, Bailey, Vickerson, and draft well.

The more I see this year's upcoming FA class, the more I hate it. The Chiefs should just avoid, because B level players are going to get paid like A level players, because there will be no A level players.

Sandy Vagina 09-26-2014 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 10949105)
You guys are high if you think the Chiefs should let Bowe walk.

You need a Bowe on a playoff team. He has the talent, though not the brains and toughness, of a #1 WR. What this team needs is an additional #1 WR to complement him.

It's not about whether Bowe has the talent to be on the roster. It comes down to cap cost versus what he brings to the team. The ability is there.. but the lack of speed.. the lack of effort in route running and attacking the ball.. just can't be paying 14 mil of your cap space in the faint hope that he will play with intensity every game. With what he brings, he should be costing less than half of what he is.


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