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Buehler445 07-25-2015 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Baconeater (Post 11617200)

ROFL.

He asked for it. You're welcome though, that's at least 300 pages of textbooks.

eDave 07-25-2015 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 11617079)
I know you're joking but you're getting it anyway. Why? Because **** the organic movement. The more information out there the better. Even though I know nobody is going to read this.

Fusarium causes head scab, which can be neutralized by a properly timed fungicide application but it's not the only fungal infection affecting wheat. Stripe rust causes the most acres to be treated. Similar looking but different phenotype and agronomic impacts are leaf rust and stem rust. They are far less aggressive but potentially dangerous to wheat production. Tan spot and powdery mildew are early season infections that are primarily related to heavy residue and cool wet spring conditions. All of these can be treated with fun code applications. Head smut is also common but rarely requires fungicide applications

Viral infections are also common. Most are carried by insects that need to be offset by insecticide applications. The problem is that you have to scout for the bug not the visual symptoms of the disease. Wheat streak mosaic is caused by the wheat curl mite, which chills out in volunteer wheat early in the season which is why it is critical to control volunteer wheat after harvest because the mites move a long way. High Plains Virus looks very similar but is less common. Barley Yellow Dwarf is spread by the Bird Cherry Oat Aphid.

Physical damage to the plant is also a big concern for wheat. Haitian Fly and Sawtooth Fly affect seedling wheat as well as grasshoppers, but those are usually just the edges. Brown Wheat mites affect drought stressed wheat coming out of dormancy in the spring. Greenbugs affect wheat in later physiological stages.

Soil Borne Mosaic is a viral infection that is in the soil. It is offset by crop rotation.

There's your readers digest wheat pathology overview. What do you want to talk about next? Fertility issues? Pesticide efficacy? Corn Pathology? Sorghum Pathology? Soil health and the effects of tillage? All of which are detrimental to organic systems.

I want to know how to increase the THC content of my latest crop.

Buehler445 07-25-2015 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by eDave (Post 11617234)
I want to know how to increase the THC content of my latest crop.

He said talk grainy to me. You are referring to a forage plant. That's an entirely different agronomic environment.

Anyong Bluth 07-25-2015 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 11617179)

Well then you should contact Stuff You Should Know. They're spreading lies

seclark 07-25-2015 03:45 PM

head scab sounds pretty ****in nasty.
good luck, Buehler445.
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Anyong Bluth 07-25-2015 03:57 PM

Well , it looks like this is not a settled question.

There's a number of discussions about debunking the debunking of banana flavoring is based on the Gros Michel.

I don't expect any artificial flavor to be an exact match, but I'm leaning towards this having some truth behind it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ex0URF-hWj4&sns=em

Miles 07-25-2015 04:00 PM

Haven't had them in a long ass time but banana ruts are good.

Buehler445 07-25-2015 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by seclark (Post 11617494)
head scab sounds pretty ****in nasty.
good luck, Buehler445.
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Oh no. I live in the desert. It's not a problem out here. It's just interesting that a fungal infection from the same family nukes bananas.

I had head scab for the first and only time on some triticale I was growing for certified seed. That's an eastern problem.

Just Passin' By 07-25-2015 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 11617079)
I know you're joking but you're getting it anyway. Why? Because **** the organic movement. The more information out there the better. Even though I know nobody is going to read this.

Fusarium causes head scab, which can be neutralized by a properly timed fungicide application but it's not the only fungal infection affecting wheat. Stripe rust causes the most acres to be treated. Similar looking but different phenotype and agronomic impacts are leaf rust and stem rust. They are far less aggressive but potentially dangerous to wheat production. Tan spot and powdery mildew are early season infections that are primarily related to heavy residue and cool wet spring conditions. All of these can be treated with fun code applications. Head smut is also common but rarely requires fungicide applications

Viral infections are also common. Most are carried by insects that need to be offset by insecticide applications. The problem is that you have to scout for the bug not the visual symptoms of the disease. Wheat streak mosaic is caused by the wheat curl mite, which chills out in volunteer wheat early in the season which is why it is critical to control volunteer wheat after harvest because the mites move a long way. High Plains Virus looks very similar but is less common. Barley Yellow Dwarf is spread by the Bird Cherry Oat Aphid.

Physical damage to the plant is also a big concern for wheat. Haitian Fly and Sawtooth Fly affect seedling wheat as well as grasshoppers, but those are usually just the edges. Brown Wheat mites affect drought stressed wheat coming out of dormancy in the spring. Greenbugs affect wheat in later physiological stages.

Soil Borne Mosaic is a viral infection that is in the soil. It is offset by crop rotation.

There's your readers digest wheat pathology overview. What do you want to talk about next? Fertility issues? Pesticide efficacy? Corn Pathology? Sorghum Pathology? Soil health and the effects of tillage? All of which are detrimental to organic systems.

:hmmm:

Please, feel free to drop some knowledge about powdery mildew and some safe ways to get rid of it without trashing your entire crop of squash.

Buehler445 07-25-2015 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 11618251)
:hmmm:

Please, feel free to drop some knowledge about powdery mildew and some safe ways to get rid of it without trashing your entire crop of squash.

It is probably not the same species of fungus that grows in wheat, but get yourself to a garden store, buy some fungicide labeled for vegetables, apply it per the label directions, but ensure you achieve good coverage (be sure to apply it to the whole plant. Don't let the leaves shade a part of the plant from your spray). Observe the harvest interval.

In terms of preventing it, there really isn't a lot you can do other than broadcast apply fungicide to the garden before you plant to get any soil borne pathogens. If you are watering, be sure to apply water in the daytime, so the plant has time to dry off. Also, it is better to water more quantity less often than small amounts each day. As long as there is profile in the root zone, it will be fine and let the top inch or so of the soil dry out.

Kaepernick 07-25-2015 11:35 PM

The cause of the Irish potato famine was that the Irish came to so love the flavor of one variety of potato over all others that they quit planting all other types of potatoes. An aerial fungus swept through the variety of potato being planted, obliterating crop yields. If they planted a greater genetic diversity of potatoes and the one variety was wiped out by the aerial fungus, then they would still have had healthy edible potatoes from different varieties.

Instead, Ireland suffered mass starvation.

Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat the mistakes of the past. What a shame.

Buehler445 07-25-2015 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaepernick (Post 11618616)
The cause of the Irish potato famine was that the Irish came to so love the flavor of one variety of potato over all others that they quit planting all other types of potatoes.

It was yield far far more than taste.

beach tribe 07-26-2015 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefTablet (Post 11615479)
Daylight come, and me wan' go home.

I have tallied the bananas. There are zero.

WilliamTheIrish 07-26-2015 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by seclark (Post 11617494)
head scab sounds pretty ****in nasty.
good luck, Buehler445.
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But head smut? That's hot!

WilliamTheIrish 07-26-2015 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaepernick (Post 11618616)
The cause of the Irish potato famine was that the Irish came to so love the flavor of one variety of potato over all others that they quit planting all other types of potatoes. An aerial fungus swept through the variety of potato being planted, obliterating crop yields. If they planted a greater genetic diversity of potatoes and the one variety was wiped out by the aerial fungus, then they would still have had healthy edible potatoes from different varieties.

Instead, Ireland suffered mass starvation.

Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat the mistakes of the past. What a shame.

Well, yea. But a bigger factor was the English trying to starve them to extinction during that time.


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