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Saccopoo 11-17-2015 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 11891132)
I think ILB is one of the least valuable positions to draft in the first rd unless a generational talent is there.

We also have Wilson and March.

It's a bit of a weird first round IMO.

There's really no "generational" talents in this draft regardless of position, though it does look relatively solid.

Especially where the Chiefs will be picking. Guys like Vadal Alexander, Reggie Ragland, Taylor Decker, Germain Ifedi, Tra'Davious White, etc. are going to be the guys you are looking at.

TBH, the biggest upside, "explosive" type player in this draft might be Ezekiel Elliot followed by Corey Coleman. Are those "generational" type of guys? I don't think so. And those guys should/could be available when the Chiefs pick.

It's really a BPA, stay put type of draft depending upon how the board falls due to the previous picks.

Due to the lack of impact that Wilson, Alexander and Mauga have displayed, a guy like Ragland makes a lot of sense. They really don't have anyone on the team at the ILB that can play the run effectively and Ragland does that exceptionally well. If Decker is still on the board, I'd probably go that route as RT trumps MLB (even Ifedi is a solid choice at RT and might have the most upside and could play inside as well), but the "impact" positions you are thinking about don't have guys as good as those as the non-traditional ones in this draft at the point where the Chiefs should be picking.

And Ragland is a pretty solid player. He's on a tear right now and is the best player on that defense that's just shutting teams down right now. Go watch him against Arkansas. The Razorbacks run on everyone and Ragland just plugged their shit up like 543 lbs. of government cheese.

The Franchise 11-18-2015 09:00 AM

Will Fuller, WR, Notre Dame.

RunKC 11-18-2015 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 11891811)
Will Fuller, WR, Notre Dame.

He's said he's not planning on coming out.

The Franchise 11-18-2015 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 11892010)
He's said he's not planning on coming out.

Well I guess that's good for the Irish then.

KC native 11-18-2015 02:08 PM

An ILB with the 1st pick?

LMAO

The Franchise 11-19-2015 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 11890083)
Why would we want to draft a guy/two guys who are 43 OLBs at the next level?

Great athletes the both of them, but neither are gap filling, 34 ILB's at the next level.

If you are looking for a potential convert from weakside OLB to ILB like Derrick Johnson, both McKinzy (who has played both inside and outside for Auburn) and Ohio State's Josh Perry (who is more of a traditional 34 OLB but has characteristics that would translate to the ILB 34 position) would be, potentially, better options than either Smith or Jack.

Personally, I'd love to see them pillage either Zach Vigil or Josh Hull from the Dolphins this off-season in addition to drafting a guy.

You're telling me that you don't think Jaylon Smith could play in the 3-4 in the NFL?

jonzie04 11-19-2015 12:08 PM

Jack isnt idea size but he would be a monster in a 3-4... This isn't a Paul Dawson running around blockers, getting destoryed when they get their hands on him. The dude fits up where he's supposed to and he destroys lineman. I posted these in another thread but maybe you missed them...

http://i.imgur.com/aW7RvlY.gif

http://i.imgur.com/omaqxFw.gif

http://i.imgur.com/LRoPFAd.gif

As for Jaylon, I don't have an arsenal of his gifs but he has a pretty massive frame. 6-3 235 and he looks like he has 34+ inch long arms, and he's fairly stout at the point of attack..He does rely on his speed/instincts to beat blockers to the spot to make tackles, but he's so great at it he will most likely be able to do it in the NFL. His sidline to side line speed is just downright insane, Proably on par with Luke Kuechlys if not even better. I would take him in a heartbeat, and i'd come up with a scheme designed to let him run and round and make tackles.

Saccopoo 11-19-2015 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 11893719)
You're telling me that you don't think Jaylon Smith could play in the 3-4 in the NFL?

That's what I am saying.

O.city 11-21-2015 04:36 PM

I would really like to see Treadwell accross from maclin.

Tribal Warfare 11-24-2015 05:52 PM

IMO, KC will be looking at another 3-4 NT/DE somewhere in the 1st 3 rounds, because of the fear ( Honestly, God forbid) that Dontari could reinjure his back. The defense has looked average because of his injury. Though the Denver game showed he could be finally healthy now. Ultimately, Devito is on his last legs and the Chiefs need another versatile DL to help the DBs too, because we can get beat deep due to the lack of speed at the CB position.

OldSchool 11-24-2015 08:51 PM

I puke at the thought of the Hack in the 2nd round. Might as well take that pick, wipe your ass with it, and flush it down the toilet. That's how good Hack is.

Saccopoo 11-25-2015 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 11905254)
I puke at the thought of the Hack in the 2nd round. Might as well take that pick, wipe your ass with it, and flush it down the toilet. That's how good Hack is.

http://i.imgur.com/iVJdk8P.gif

Saccopoo 11-25-2015 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 11904982)
IMO, KC will be looking at another 3-4 NT/DE somewhere in the 1st 3 rounds, because of the fear ( Honestly, God forbid) that Dontari could reinjure his back. The defense has looked average because of his injury. Though the Denver game showed he could be finally healthy now. Ultimately, Devito is on his last legs and the Chiefs need another versatile DL to help the DBs too, because we can get beat deep due to the lack of speed at the CB position.

http://www.kcchiefs.com/assets/image...nez-Roches.jpg

Saccopoo 11-26-2015 01:26 PM

Newly updated for the .500 5/5 mark road to the playoffs situation the Chiefs are looking at right now.

Tribal Warfare 11-26-2015 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 11906112)

That cat was a later round pick too, I'm talking about a DL who can pick up the slack when Poe is dinged like Billings or Robinson. Added to that Dontari's contract year.


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