I'm sure he's been a part of some super talented teams....right?

2009: 2-14
2010: 6-10
2011: 10-6
2012: 4-12
2013: 7-9
2014: 11-5

I bet that's all his fault though.

No one here is claiming that Stafford is elite or even that we should jump at the chance to get him on this team.

What I'm simply claiming is that he's not as shitty as people make him out to be. He's basically Andrew Luck at this point. Tons of weapons with no ****ing offensive line to keep him upright. And because of that....he forces the ball and ends up with a bunch of INTs.

I AM! :)

Well, if they'll take Alex Smith in Trade. :D

Matt Stafford?
 

I seem to recall having many debates with you about Andrew Luck

Lets talk about how overrated Russel Wilson is... :)

No he's bad. Worse fundamentals than Cutler. Accuracy problems and a tendency to throw to the other team. He just throws the ball up in Calvin's general direction and prays it works out
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I was blasted here for saying Stafford was overrated this past offseason.

Chiefs love Alex-he will retire here. Makes enough plays to keep the team out of the cellar and making money. Money is the bottom line. They won't bring in Stafford the interception machine- he would cost too much and hurt the bottom line with a losing record.

I wanted him when he first came out of Georgia. Maybe with Reid.... MAYBE.... he could become a great quarterback, but I personally don't think we need to trade Smith for Stafford. I'd rather go with the College QB route than hitch the wagon to another veteran.

:LOL: Okay

He really doesn't throw that many INTs. Just 17 when he threw it over 700 times.

I've never denied that Luck sometimes creates his own problems. Ive never used comebacks or gwd as proof of how good he is. But we can agree that Luck and Stafford are on two very different qb classes right?
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96 interceptions in 85 games is a lot of interceptions .
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Iiiiiiiiii don't know, man. I don't know.

I mean, Stafford is ass, but Luck's been horrid this season too. Prior to last Sunday's game, Luck had the third lowest QBR of any QB in the league. They both have similar talents (big arm, 3rd year explosion, disappointing performances thereafter).

I'll give it a few more years to make the determination.

Eye test does tell me that Luck is the better QB, though. I never loved Stafford. His footwork makes his bad throws really tough to forgive.

I had also heard the coaching had suggested bringing someone in to help him work on his mechanics and he shrugged it off as if everything were gravy and he didn't need it.

That's douchey, non-leaderlike behavior. Plus he has a VERY punchable face, let's be honest.

This year? Yeah Luck is a bottom 5 QB. Just plain trash. But at least he has great fundamentals so I can see he can improve and bounce back. Stafford still throws side arm off his backdoor most throws, I can't see him really getting much better.
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