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Brits Don't Want the Redskins? (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=298459)

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 12099418)

The London Tossers. Lots of passing...

The Old England Patriotcheaters the 2nd.

Just have college programs play there instead:

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Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 12099468)

Just have college programs play there instead:

http://gluten-freeprincess.com/wp-co...ting-Irish.jpg

Meh, college is rigged, too.

:drool:

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 12099470)

Meh, college is rigged, too.

:drool:

Wow, I really thought I would be able to ignore you manually long enough to get past your BS. Ah well, welcome to the Ignore list. Enjoy your trolling...

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Originally Posted by Hydrae (Post 12099476)

Wow, I really thought I would be able to ignore you manually long enough to get past your BS. Ah well, welcome to the Ignore list. Enjoy your trolling...

Jeremy walks warily down the street, with his brim pulled way down low...

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12099288)

Stadiums, bars, restaurants, concert venues, etc. and so on all pay a Yearly Blanket License fee that's determined by the size of the venue and approximate attendance.

Those fees are dumped into the Allocated Funds fee (which last year was over $900 million for ASCAP alone), then those funds are distributed based on complex algorithms that include a once a quarter survey, TV Cue Sheets, Radio Play, Top Charting songs, etc. and so on.

If a Gary Glitter or Rolling Stones or Metallica, et al, is played on the day of the Survey (which happens once a month), a royalty would be distributed but the amount for playing a song even five times during a 3 hour period for 8 games a year would be pennies on the dollar.

In other words, we're talking peanuts.

All the more reason why waiting nearly a decade to declare the Tube Tops 2000 cover verboten at Arrowhead doesn't make all that much sense unless you factor in it was going to be played at Wembley considering the Chiefs were the "home" team and thus had most of the gameday environment transplanted from Kansas City to London.

Further, why is it a problem to play a cover version when just a few nights ago I heard the original played over the PA during a South Carolina basketball game? Also, wiki claims the original has earned $250,000 through usage at NHL games, for whatever that is worth to you.

I know you're friends with the group or dude that won the TD song contest but taking out Rock and Roll Part 2 in favor of the new song.. well.. It's suboptimal to put it nicely. Doesn't at all sound like the Arrowhead of the pre-Herm era anymore, which is probably the intent of the NFL Marketing Wizards or what have you; I'd hazard a guess it's because of the recent spats of fan-on-fan violence getting highlighted by our awesomely alarmist newsmedia and the team / league doesn't want it to appear that they are encouraging people to "beat the hell out of" others.

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 12099470)

Meh, college is rigged, too.

:drool:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-s...00/morales.gif

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 12099603)

Jeremy walks wearily down the street, with his brim pulled way down low...

"warily"

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 12099645)

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 12099645)

Further, why is it a problem to play a cover version when just a few nights ago I heard the original played over the PA during a South Carolina basketball game?

I don't even understand this question. But to be clear, whether it's the original or a cover, the songwriter is still paid performance income. Stadiums and other venues aren't required to pay a Master Recording fee.

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 12099645)

Also, wiki claims the original has earned $250,000 through usage at NHL games, for whatever that is worth to you.

Let's say it was played once in every NHL game over the past 20 years. That's close to 25,000 plays, not including post season. So for the sake of argument, we'll say 30,000 games. That comes to about $8 dollars per play but that's likely the entire publishing sum, not just the Writer's Share.

So, with that being the case, he's earned about $4 dollars per play, which makes complete sense. Also, keep in mind, since it's played over the Public Address system, there are no synchronization royalties or Master Recording fees paid to the publisher.

It's still peanuts and it doesn't come from the NFL's coffers.

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Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 12099671)

"warily"

Oh, like as in cautiously, nice. Makes it even cooler.

Thankee-sai!

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12099712)

The Kansas City Chiefs aren't the only team ever to use that song. It was first used by the Bronco's in the 70's and has been used at countless sporting events. It's not an "original" idea to use this at Arrowhead.

I don't even understand this question. But to be clear, whether it's the original or a cover, the songwriter is still paid performance income. Stadiums and other venues aren't required to pay a Master Recording fee.

Let's say it was played once in every NHL game over the past 20 years. That's close to 25,000, not including post season. So for the sake of argument, we'll say 30,000 games. That comes to about $8 dollars per play but that's likely the entire publishing sum, not just the Writer's Share.

So, with that being the case, he's earned about $4 dollars per play, which makes complete sense. Also, keep in mind, since it's played over the Public Address system, there are no synchronization royalties or Master Recording fees paid to the publisher.

It's still peanuts and it doesn't come from the NFL's coffers.

Point of rhetorically asking why the original is still getting play isn't related to royalties or what have you (because if I were on the spot I'd guess an "amateur" sporting event is exempt because it's technically not for profit, but your explanation seems like gospel and I'm not arguing it's incorrect) but pointing out that it's a bit odd that an NFL team that has used the song as a TD celebration for at least 20 years total and, in light of what your explanation of writer's royalties, that the money-to-an-ephebophile isn't the reason either. Seems to me KC made the switch from the cover version due to the Chiefs being the designated 'home' team in the London game because of Glitter's recent indictment. If the Hunt family or some big swinging dick involved with the league's marketing and PR wanted it changed, it would have been done logically with Glitter's first few spats of legal troubles in 1997 and 2006 or when the Chiefs' got Patriot Way'd in 2009.

And yeah. I get it. Rock and Roll Pt. 2 wasn't only played for TDs at Arrowhead.

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Originally Posted by Indian Chief (Post 12099128)

Two things come to mind here, both already mentioned briefly.

1. The Irish. Dear UK, shut your ****ing pie hole about treatment of other people.

2. America, pre-USA and at the founding, was made up largely of...British citizens. So guess who got the ball rolling on all of that Native American slaughter?

Yeah! Take that Ruth SMEEEETH