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TigeRRUppeRRcut 04-18-2016 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12183975)
I'd argue that formula in a "passing era" is doing it right.

Defenses are built to stop the pass, so in theory the running game heavy teams should have an advantage.

This is a concept that the average football fan cannot appreciate.

jspchief 04-18-2016 02:54 PM

And another point to soothe those hurt feelings...

The Rams happen to be in an extremely unique situation, for 2 reasons.

1. The perfect storm of a QB worth trading up for and a team holding that pick that just drafted their franchise qb the year before. How often does that happen? There's obviously the subjective nature of when a qb prospect is worth it, but the teams that typically have that top pick need a qb. How many times in the last 25 years has there been a qb worthy of #1 overall in the same year that the worst team in the league doesn't need a qb?

2. Being the shiny new toy in town. The Rams are were just handed a fanbase and ticket buyers that don't have the previous 10 years of failure on their mind. When a franchise has just made their fans sit through an Edwards/Haley/Crennel era, it's not as easy to play fast and loose with the product you trot out onto the field. Fans may say "superbowl or bust" on message boards, but they start talking with their wallets and banners in the sky after too many years of "bust". The Rams don't have to worry about that for a number of years.


So yeah, the Rams can talk about how they're going to do it different, but it's not like every team has passed up an opportunity to do it that way.

ThaVirus 04-18-2016 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 12184147)
Or Russell Wilson game managing his way to a superbowl ring.

Hey! Back off, shithead!

ThaVirus 04-18-2016 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 12184112)
Too many of you are focused on your hurt feelings from a perceived slight, while ignoring the point that was being made.

The Rams made a conscious decision this year to build the team around what they feel is a franchise QB. To the degree that they are sacrificing other players (picks) to lay that foundation. That's simply a very different approach than the Chiefs have taken. It's not an insult, it's fact.

As for the chance of success versus falling on their face... there's not much evidence that failing has any negative effects that go beyond what the Chiefs have experienced doing it the safe way. KC has had a pretty stellar run on 1st round picks going all the way back to Tamba Hali. And what did all those picks result in? Varying degrees of success and failure, including the worst season in franchise history. Even the success the team has had in the last 3 years has to be partially credited to finally getting a qb.

The Rams just came out and said they believe draft picks and/or good players aren't worth much without a franchise qb. KC is a perfect example of that reality.

This is a good post. Bunch of weak ass bitches in here getting their feelings hurt for no reason..

But I will say it was kind of odd for them to say this in the first place. They've poured a ton of resources into defense, OL and RB in recent years. Although they're now aggressively trying to get a stud under center, they're not too different from us circa 2012.

dj56dt58 04-18-2016 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 12183870)
Going back to the 1993 season and onward the Redskins have one fewer playoff win than KC and is worse on overall win and loss.

Or how about this: Since the beginning of the 2011 season, KC has nine extra regular seasons wins and one playoff victory in an extra playoff game over the 'skins even though Washington had the worst possible outcome in RG3 failing after they sold the farm to draft him.

Some people equate drafting a qb to success and signing a fa qb to failure

jspchief 04-18-2016 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by dj56dt58 (Post 12184208)
Some people equate drafting a qb to success and signing a fa qb to failure

Some people think taking a chance on drafting a qb is too risky. Washington is a great example of how wrong that is. They gave up too much to get a guy that busted, and they're still no worse off for it than the "play it safe" Chiefs.

Buehler445 04-18-2016 03:13 PM

But they're in California now... All will be better.

To be fair, there is some Class A poon in that place...

http://www.rantplaces.com/wp-content...age-Flickr.jpg

Eleazar 04-18-2016 03:26 PM

If the Rams are run by draft tabulators, their franchise will go nowhere.

Maybe Vernon Gholston, Geno Smith, and Taylor Mays will find new homes there.

RealSNR 04-18-2016 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 12184251)
If the Rams are run by draft tabulators, their franchise will go nowhere.

Maybe Vernon Gholston, Geno Smith, and Taylor Mays will find new homes there.

They've been run by True Fans since Mike Martz left.

DaNewGuy 04-18-2016 04:14 PM

I don't wanna follow the Rams model. They haven't been relevant since Warner was there

jspchief 04-18-2016 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DaNewGuy (Post 12184331)
I don't wanna follow the Rams model. They haven't been relevant since Warner was there

Len Dawson says hi.

Easy 6 04-18-2016 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DaNewGuy (Post 12184331)
I don't wanna follow the Rams model. They haven't been relevant since Warner was there

If Vermeil had stayed there and kept Martz in check, the Bulger years could've been very good IMO... Marc had a very accurate whip arm

Faulk, Bruce, Holt and Pace all still had a decent year or three left during the Bulger (just go with it) Era... Martz killed them with his ego

Discuss Thrower 04-18-2016 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 12184342)
Len Dawson says hi.

Dawson combined with Blackledge are the two biggest reasons KC never tries to acquire and develop a highly sought after QB in the draft.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-18-2016 05:16 PM

I wonder who the next "established vet" will be? Didn't I read not too long ago in some fluff piece about a freshly drafted ( by another team ) QB that he had a hidden boner for?

Damn, who was that?


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