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tomahawk kid 11-02-2016 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy (Post 12523086)
Players don't work as hard under the new cba. Only Bill demands his players study at home and when they mess up he embarrasses them. Collins was their best defender but just didn't get on board with his way so he sent him packing to the worst team in the league. Practice makes perfect and they don't practice enough in the off season so the product goes to bad.

Excellent point.

Less training / practice definitely contributes to the decline of the product, along with more players getting hurt.

Prison Bitch 11-02-2016 07:52 AM

Poll after poll screams out loud that Kapernick is the main reason, and that the NFLs white middle aged demo doesn't like him one bit, or the League standing by his stunt.


It didn't suddenly "become a bad product" in one year. It's Kapernick

Amnorix 11-02-2016 07:52 AM

No particular order:

1. over-saturation. Sunday, Sunday Night, Monday Night, Thursday night. Constantly an NFL game on now.

2. Flags. Flagapalooza. Flagarama. Flagfest.

3. Inconsistency in officiating, which gets microanalyzed to the nth degree every damn time. Super-slow-mo, and 20,000 angles. Humans are humans, but we expect refs to be perfect.

4. Poor play, primarily as a result of reduced practices and reduce contact allowed due to the latest CBA.

5. Elimination of excitement from teh game. Yeah, the game is safer, and it's hard to argue it isn't necessary, but people love to watch teh big hitters and the big hits. Also, did you dance in the end zone? Penalty. Did you LOOK at the guy you just tackeld? Unsportsmanlike conduct. THOU SHALT DO YOUR JOB AND THEN ROBOTICALLY RETURN TO THE HUDDLE.

6. Endless alternatives for entertainment. On Demand TV, 2,000 channels. Netflix. Stream whatever you watch. Watch cat videos. Alot of competition for eyeballs.

7. Commercials. Endless long, commercials at every possible moment.

mr. tegu 11-02-2016 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by dmahurin (Post 12523163)
The pacing of the game sucks. Its unbearable to watch anymore. The games are boring. People think baseball is bad with pacing, the NFL is way worse. 7 to 8 seconds of game action followed by 30 seconds of standing around. Repeat a few times. Pause for penalties/injuries/reviews. Commercial. 7 to 8 seconds of action. Commercial. Announcers talk, kick the ball. Commercial. 7 to 8 seconds of game action. Stand around for 30 seconds. Commercial. Repeat. Its awful to watch and not worth anyones time.

For me it's the constant commercials more than anything that is the most annoying and what makes other team's games hard to watch. You want to be sucked into the action, have your adrenaline and excitement rise as the stakes grow higher, but the constant stoppages totally remove you from that multiple times throughout the games. It isn't a sport that lends itself well to so many stops and commercial breaks.

People may complain baseball is slow but when it comes to commercial breaks, you are not surprised by them, you know they are coming so you don't get dissapointed or frustrated, and when they do have commercial breaks they are more natural and feel more necessary. In football, outside of breaks after the scoring, the multitude of other commercial breaks they have are just too jarring and sudden and they completely remove from the action and excitement.

Prison Bitch 11-02-2016 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 12523181)
No particular order:

1. over-saturation. Sunday, Sunday Night, Monday Night, Thursday night. Constantly an NFL game on now.

2. Flags. Flagapalooza. Flagarama. Flagfest.

3. Inconsistency in officiating, which gets microanalyzed to the nth degree every damn time. Super-slow-mo, and 20,000 angles. Humans are humans, but we expect refs to be perfect.

4. Poor play, primarily as a result of reduced practices and reduce contact allowed due to the latest CBA.

5. Elimination of excitement from teh game. Yeah, the game is safer, and it's hard to argue it isn't necessary, but people love to watch teh big hitters and the big hits. Also, did you dance in the end zone? Penalty. Did you LOOK at the guy you just tackeld? Unsportsmanlike conduct. THOU SHALT DO YOUR JOB AND THEN ROBOTICALLY RETURN TO THE HUDDLE.

6. Endless alternatives for entertainment. On Demand TV, 2,000 channels. Netflix. Stream whatever you watch. Watch cat videos. Alot of competition for eyeballs.

7. Commercials. Endless long, commercials at every possible moment.


There's a 2000 pound elephant sitting in your post.

Hammock Parties 11-02-2016 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 12523180)
It didn't suddenly "become a bad product" in one year. It's Kapernick

ROFL

Kaepernick plays for one team, and has barely played this year at all.

It's not Kaepernick.

CapsLockKey 11-02-2016 07:59 AM

I don't know about other fans in general, but I'm tired of the same handful of teams being propped up by the league every single year for the last 15-20 years. At least baseball and basketball have a changing of the guard every few years. I used to ignore MLB and NBA for the last decade or so, but I've honestly been more interested in the postseason of those sports than I have the NFL recently. If it's another NE/Seattle type SB who gives a shit?

Nzoner 11-02-2016 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by tooge (Post 12523156)
It seems too scripted to me.

I like to tell people who say this to go to scoresandodds.com one week and write down all the spreads and over/unders and then once the games have finished go back and compare.Some games will have you saying WTF??

TEX 11-02-2016 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Nzoner (Post 12523200)
I like to tell people who say this to go to scoresandodds.com one week and write down all the spreads and over/unders and then once the games have finished go back and compare.Some games will have you saying WTF??

Yep.

siberian khatru 11-02-2016 08:11 AM

As I mentioned in Sunday's game thread after Kelce's catch was ruled a non-catch by replay (the refs actually got the call RIGHT the first time), the NFL is killing itself.

I cut the cord this year, which means no more Sunday Ticket after about 15 years. I stream Chiefs games on Kodi, but my days of flipping back and forth between other games or using the Red Zone channel are over. Now, after the Chiefs are done (when they play the early game), I put on one of the late-afternoon games on a broadcast channel in the background with the sound off while I listen to the Chiefs postgame radio shows streaming over the Internet, relax with a drink and begin preparing dinner.

I almost never watch Thursday night or Monday night games anymore. I rarely watch the Sunday night game beyond halftime -- I go to bed.

The rules suck, the games are boring, there are too many commercial breaks, there are too many games during the week, most of which are boring or bad matchups. I don't agree with the flag-sitters, but they don't offend me; what bugs me is the damn issue being COVERED TO DEATH. Gotta watch the anthem at every ****ing game to see who's standing and who's not! I. Don't. Care.

I hate what Goodell has done to the draft. HATE IT.

I could go on, but you get the gist ...

DaFace 11-02-2016 08:14 AM

For me, the biggest issue is that you just can't get excited about anything anymore. Big play? That's great, but is there a flag for some ticky tack reason? OK, good, no flag. Now let's watch 15 different replays to see if the ball jiggled a bit. Oh, crap. Was that enough of a jiggle to overturn it? Shit, there's the red flag.

(5 minutes of commercials)

"I know that literally everyone thought that it was a catch in real time, but when viewed at 20,000 fps, I saw a jiggle. Ruling on the field is reversed."

OK, what the **** were we doing 10 minutes ago...?

loochy 11-02-2016 08:22 AM

"Disturbing" is not the word I would use to describe it

I feel that "uncaptivating" is a much better fit

Dartgod 11-02-2016 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by dmahurin (Post 12523163)
7 to 8 seconds of game action followed by 30 seconds of standing around. Repeat a few times.

And that's just the Chiefs 2 minute offense.

siberian khatru 11-02-2016 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 12523212)
For me, the biggest issue is that you just can't get excited about anything anymore. Big play? That's great, but is there a flag for some ticky tack reason? OK, good, no flag. Now let's watch 15 different replays to see if the ball jiggled a bit. Oh, crap. Was that enough of a jiggle to overturn it? Shit, there's the red flag.

(5 minutes of commercials)

"I know that literally everyone thought that it was a catch in real time, but when viewed at 20,000 fps, I saw a jiggle. Ruling on the field is reversed."

OK, what the **** were we doing 10 minutes ago...?

Yeah, that too.

Everytime there's an incomplete pass on third and long, I ask, Is there a flag? Is there a flag? (Beat. Beat. Beat.) "And there's a late flag on the play!"

Prison Bitch 11-02-2016 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ASS11 (Post 12523185)
It's not Kaepernick.

It's Kaepernick.


1). He's the main reason according to actual polls where they, you know, ask people:
http://boston.cbslocal.com/2016/10/2...protests-poll/

2). He's become suddenly very unpopular by whites, who are the main NFL demo:

"It is important to note, as ESPN does, that two years ago 7 percent of Caucasians polled said they disliked Kap "a lot," but now, that figure has skyrocketed to 37 percent."
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/1...eting-research


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