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DaneMcCloud 01-02-2017 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BigMeatballBillay (Post 12656759)
Would you offer Marrone the HC position?

In Jacskonville? No.

That organization needs sweeping changes and a change of culture.

Marrone's an upgrade over Bradley but they need a new voice in the locker room.

GloucesterChief 01-02-2017 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by booger (Post 12656740)
Yeah York is a young arrogant dipshit who knows nothing about football. That's how it appears to me anyway in my limited following of SF. Dude is in need of a Ron Wolf or Ernie Accorsi type consultant in his searches IMO. Seems to arrogant to go that route though

Owner meddling almost never works in this day and age. The Skins have gotten better after Synder learned to stop meddling.

DJ's left nut 01-02-2017 05:04 PM

Eh, I'm not sure I'd go that far w/r/t to Bradley.

The Jags had EIGHT one-score losses under Bradley. In a one score game, you can find a lot of things that have very little to do with the coach that can explain it. A great deal of it comes from one of the more bizarre regressions I've ever seen from a promising young QB.

Marrone lost a game on Sunday in the same kind of late, heartbreaking fashion that Bradley lost several games this year. I don't think Marrone showed that he's a substantially better coach than Bradley and I think Marrone's probably an average NFL coach.

Bradley will get to go the Haley route now. He needs to go back to being a DC somewhere (and I think he'll be a good one again) and excel long enough to lick his wounds, learn some lessons and maybe get another shot. It's the NFL - nobody's ever guaranteed a do-over and if he never gets one, so be it. But I don't think it's fair to say he was completely overmatched either.

He's just not an offensive coach and he didn't have the assistants around him to help him out when Bortles started going sideways. Once Bortles imploded and Bradley lacked the knowledge/staff to fix it, he was boned.

DaneMcCloud 01-02-2017 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by GloucesterChief (Post 12656764)
The Skins have gotten better after Synder learned to stop meddling.

Not by much.

DaneMcCloud 01-02-2017 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12656770)
Eh, I'm not sure I'd go that far w/r/t to Bradley.

The Jags had EIGHT one-score losses under Bradley. In a one score game, you can find a lot of things that have very little to do with the coach that can explain it. A great deal of it comes from one of the more bizarre regressions I've ever seen from a promising young QB.

Marrone lost a game on Sunday in the same kind of late, heartbreaking fashion that Bradley lost several games this year. I don't think Marrone showed that he's a substantially better coach than Bradley and I think Marrone's probably an average NFL coach.

Bradley will get to go the Haley route now. He needs to go back to being a DC somewhere (and I think he'll be a good one again) and excel long enough to lick his wounds, learn some lessons and maybe get another shot. It's the NFL - nobody's ever guaranteed a do-over and if he never gets one, so be it. But I don't think it's fair to say he was completely overmatched either.

He's just not an offensive coach and he didn't have the assistants around him to help him out when Bortles started going sideways. Once Bortles imploded and Bradley lacked the knowledge/staff to fix it, he was boned.

14-48, Dude.

14-48.

booger 01-02-2017 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by GloucesterChief (Post 12656764)
Owner meddling almost never works in this day and age. The Skins have gotten better after Synder learned to stop meddling.

Yep :thumb:

Mr. Laz 01-02-2017 05:08 PM

http://www.findingradiance.com/wp-co.../07/doomed.png

Buehler445 01-02-2017 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12656733)
Everything coming out of SF and Buffalo today should severely limit the number of potential head coaches and GM's for both clubs.

As bad as the Bills have been (no playoff appearances since 1999), the 49ers gig is radioactive.

What great candidate would want to work in that environment?

I haven't heard anything. What is coming out?

Other than Baalke and Kelly being shitcanned. And yeah. That place looks radioactive.

DaneMcCloud 01-02-2017 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 12656795)
I haven't heard anything. What is coming out?

Other than Baalke and Kelly being shitcanned. And yeah. That place looks radioactive.

Buffalo GM Doug Whaley had a bizarre news conference in which he said that he "had no idea why Rex Ryan was fired" and wasn't "privy to that information".

In SF, it came out that Baalke never spoke with the coaches about draftees or players they liked. Kelly wanted Dak Prescott but Baalke said no.

The owner, Jed York, said "You don't dismiss owners" when asked about his poor tenure since being named club president.

Who, in their right mind, would want to work in Buffalo or SF after these bizarre statements?

DJ's left nut 01-02-2017 05:41 PM

"I'm here to speak on behalf of the owners..."

"How can you do that if you weren't part of the conversation?"

"Uh......"

Like I said, just bizarre as hell. Then the whole thing about how he didn't hire Ryan but he's going to hire the new guy...once the owners say it's okay. Oh, and evidently he didn't have anything to do with Lynn coaching this last game but rather it was at Ryan's recommendation?

Alexander Haig seemed more composed than Doug Whaley.

Buehler445 01-02-2017 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12656808)
Buffalo GM Doug Whaley had a bizarre news conference in which he said that he "had no idea why Rex Ryan was fired" and wasn't "privy to that information".

In SF, it came out that Baalke never spoke with the coaches about draftees or players they liked. Kelly wanted Dak Prescott but Baalke said no.

The owner, Jed York, said "You don't dismiss owners" when asked about his poor tenure since being named club president.

Who, in their right mind, would want to work in Buffalo or SF after these bizarre statements?

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12656817)
"I'm here to speak on behalf of the owners..."

"How can you do that if you weren't part of the conversation?"

"Uh......"

Like I said, just bizarre as hell. Then the whole thing about how he didn't hire Ryan but he's going to hire the new guy...once the owners say it's okay. Oh, and evidently he didn't have anything to do with Lynn coaching this last game but rather it was at Ryan's recommendation?

Alexander Haig seemed more composed than Doug Whaley.

Jesus.

How the hell can people THIS incompetent get multi-million dollar jobs? I'm a horrible public speaker, but I could put together a press conference that was at least coherent. It would be boring but coherent.

And I'm not making millions.

DJ's left nut 01-02-2017 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 12656827)
Jesus.

How the hell can people THIS incompetent get multi-million dollar jobs? I'm a horrible public speaker, but I could put together a press conference that was at least coherent. It would be boring but coherent.

And I'm not making millions.

Doug Whaley looks ****ing great in a suit.

That counts for something.

DJ's left nut 01-02-2017 05:55 PM

I mean seriously - get a look at this dapper mother****er right here...

http://www.buffalobills.com/assets/i...dibh-story.jpg

I'd kick him at least a hundred bucks to give me advise on proper posture if nothing else.

DJ's left nut 01-02-2017 06:00 PM

Pegula's given a little more information:

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/new...124185914.html

The basic reason why Ryan was fired mid-week during a conference call had nothing to do with the Bills 'trying to get a head start' on their coaching search or anything you normally hear.

No - the reason, boiled down - he asked, I answered.

Pegula was going to evaluate his performance after the season but during a mid-week conference call, Ryan asked to speak directly to Pegula for a minute so Whaley hung up. Ryan asked if he would be retained and Pegula evidently decided "eh, **** evaluation, I'm just gonna fire him" and told him he wouldn't be retained right then and there. So Ryan said that Lynn should coach the next game, Pegula said okay, called Whaley back and told him he had a new coach now.

What in the actual ****?

Yeah, stay far the **** away from Buffalo.

SAUTO 01-02-2017 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12656834)
I mean seriously - get a look at this dapper mother****er right here...

http://www.buffalobills.com/assets/i...dibh-story.jpg

I'd kick him at least a hundred bucks to give me advise on proper posture if nothing else.

I wonder if he can still stand like that after they cut off his nuts


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