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11Chiefs 01-03-2018 10:00 AM

So the first question Nagy asks Reid after the last game... "Are you taking play calling back?"

Would hate to lose Nagy, but he either gets some kind of promotion or he's probably gone.

mikeyis4dcats. 01-03-2018 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 13327404)
That will create even more distractions.

how so? you get a request and you immediately make it known around the league that you denied it and will deny every single request whle the team plays. Then there are no more requests to worry about.

SAGA45 01-03-2018 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by 11Chiefs (Post 13327433)
So the first question Nagy asks Reid after the last game... "Are you taking play calling back?"

Would hate to lose Nagy, but he either gets some kind of promotion or he's probably gone.

They have to promote him....whatever the next step up is...Assistant HC....hell get creative...Assistant HC/Associate Director of Player Personnel...SOMEthing!

The Franchise 01-03-2018 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 13327388)
God, I know right? Like what the **** is the rush?

Getting your staff together before they've all taken other jobs.
Spending time figuring out the needs of the team that you just took over.
Getting prepared for free agency and the draft.

You know.....nothing to do.

mlyonsd 01-03-2018 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan (Post 13327430)
are you sure?
I hate to see Mahomes become Smith II with all that ridiculous dink, dunk safe play crap.

This.

wazu 01-03-2018 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats. (Post 13327459)
how so? you get a request and you immediately make it known around the league that you denied it and will deny every single request whle the team plays. Then there are no more requests to worry about.

If I’m a rival team I make the request anyway. Let the assistants know their boss is preventing them from advancing their careers. Let follow up questions rain down from media to coaches and players throughout the playoffs. Unleash hell.

DJ's left nut 01-03-2018 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs=Good (Post 13327072)
I feel like 1st time nfl head coaches often rush into bad positions. You only have so many chances, keep being an assistant untill the perfect opportunity comes up and allow yourself to have a 5+ career instead of a 1-2 tenure.

Or if Mahomes stumbles next year, Nagy ends up wearing the goat horns for it and falls off short lists.

Think of Nagy as a college junior thinking about leaving early. He gets a 'top 5 pick' grade. He's probably going to have his pick of any available jobs right now - I think he's the best candidate on the market and the offensive resurgence after it was announced he was calling plays only reinforces that. Hell, Doug Pederson's success will help sell him as well.

So back to the analogy, if you're a prospect and you get a top 5 grade, would it really be smart to go back to college another year on the chance of improving it to top 3? Or consensus 1? I wouldn't think so - the downside is that you go all Matt Barkley and lose out on tens of millions while never really getting an opportunity to shine either way.

If Nagy takes the Colts job, he's a head coach with Andrew Luck, TY Hilton and some solid complementary parts. He's an O-Line rebuild away from having a truly dynamic offense (bearing in mind that he may not even need that - Luck's never had an OL worth a damn and still puts up points when healthy).

If he passes to wait for a better job...what's that job? Hell, even if a SB winner retires and he takes over, there's nowhere to go but down. A great situation is a team that's either just entering or just emerging from a rebuild with a new front office. That situation is going to get you 5 years of rope and a lot of runway. If you can't turn a team around in 4-5 years or at least show signs of it happening, you don't deserve the gig anyway.

There are several jobs (Giants, Colts, Bears) that are no brainers for him, IMO. And even a couple others like the Lions and Cardinals that would be decent fits. The Cards are getting a new quarterback and still have David Johnson. Nagy will get plenty of rope there and has the best all-purpose back in the league to help him ease a transition not to mention a damn talented young defense that could help cover his warts as an offense-first guy.

Nagy's gone unless we can win a SB and Andy retires on top.

The Franchise 01-03-2018 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 13327481)
Or if Mahomes stumbles next year, Nagy ends up wearing the goat horns for it and falls off short lists.

Think of Nagy as a college junior thinking about leaving early. He gets a 'top 5 pick' grade. He's probably going to have his pick of any available jobs right now - I think he's the best candidate on the market and the offensive resurgence after it was announced he was calling plays only reinforces that. Hell, Doug Pederson's success will help sell him as well.

So back to the analogy, if you're a prospect and you get a top 5 grade, would it really be smart to go back to college another year on the chance of improving it to top 3? Or consensus 1? I wouldn't think so - the downside is that you go all Matt Barkley and lose out on tens of millions while never really getting an opportunity to shine either way.

If Nagy takes the Colts job, he's a head coach with Andrew Luck, TY Hilton and some solid complementary parts. He's an O-Line rebuild away from having a truly dynamic offense (bearing in mind that he may not even need that - Luck's never had an OL worth a damn and still puts up points when healthy).

If he passes to wait for a better job...what's that job? Hell, even if a SB winner retires and he takes over, there's nowhere to go but down. A great situation is a team that's either just entering or just emerging from a rebuild with a new front office. That situation is going to get you 5 years of rope and a lot of runway. If you can't turn a team around in 4-5 years or at least show signs of it happening, you don't deserve the gig anyway.

There are several jobs (Giants, Colts, Bears) that are no brainers for him, IMO. And even a couple others like the Lions and Cardinals that would be decent fits. The Cards are getting a new quarterback and still have David Johnson. Nagy will get plenty of rope there and has the best all-purpose back in the league to help him ease a transition not to mention a damn talented young defense that could help cover his warts as an offense-first guy.

Nagy's gone unless we can win a SB and Andy retires on top.

I'd love to see him stay.....but you pretty much hit the nail on the head. There's no way I'm touching that Bears job if I'm him though.

O.city 01-03-2018 10:12 AM

Only hope is that he wants to stay and hopefully take over Mahomes in a few years but that’s risky as DJ pointed out.

Sucks

Easy 6 01-03-2018 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 13327411)
Reid will be fine if Alex is gone.

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Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan (Post 13327430)
are you sure?
I hate to see Mahomes become Smith II with all that ridiculous dink, dunk safe play crap.

I agree with wazu, no one better knows what Mahomes is than Reid

He isnt going to restrain the most dynamic QB he has ever had

DJ's left nut 01-03-2018 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13327497)
I'd love to see him stay.....but you pretty much hit the nail on the head. There's no way I'm touching that Bears job if I'm him though.

If he can get Trubisky to even make it into the top 1/2 of NFL quarterbacks in the next 2 years, he's in a fantastic spot. He'd start to get that 'quarterback whisperer' reputation after Mahomes development and Smith's career year. He'd effectively get 'royalties' on what Mahomes does when he leaves (hell, he'd get credit if Mahomes fails).

And if Trubisky plateaus, he gets to say "Mitch is a fine passer but he wasn't my guy" when they move on from him. He'll get a few more years after that to establish a new guy.

All Nagy would have to do to have a virtually guaranteed 6-8 year career in Chicago is turn Mitch Trubisky into an average passer in the next 2 seasons. With Howard as a bellcow and Cohen as a hell of a swiss army knife, not to mention Meridith returning, that's not an outlandish ask.

BryanBusby 01-03-2018 10:22 AM

The problem for Nagy in Chicago is Pace is a shitty ass GM and the Bears will eventually figure it out.

Having a shitty GM makes your job harder and once they cut him loose, you're probably ****ed and it's real hard to get another gig if you blow the first one.

Can't empathize nearly enough just how much Pace sucks asshole at his job and amazed he kept his job. He ****ing sucks.

Rausch 01-03-2018 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 13327481)
Or if Mahomes stumbles next year, Nagy ends up wearing the goat horns for it and falls off short lists.

Think of Nagy as a college junior thinking about leaving early. He gets a 'top 5 pick' grade. He's probably going to have his pick of any available jobs right now - I think he's the best candidate on the market and the offensive resurgence after it was announced he was calling plays only reinforces that. Hell, Doug Pederson's success will help sell him as well.

Keep in mind that who picks in the top 10 sometimes plays into the thinking of returning for one more year.

The Colts, Bears, and Giants are all in horrible shape right now. If Luck can play next year (and right now that's very unclear) I'd take the Colts off the list.

If Dorsey hired Naggy to coach in Cleveland (as big a dumpster fire as that team is) I'd think that job would be more desirable. Dorsey knows Naggy and Andy would go to bat for him. There's a relationship there, Cleveland has a ton of picks again this year, and I think Dorsey wouldn't fire him after 1 season.

If things go bad in NY or Chicago after 1 year you're out and the perception is you weren't ready...

Easy 6 01-03-2018 10:25 AM

If Nagy is shrewd, tough negotiator, theres nothing stopping him from demanding a heavy hand in personnel decisions to counter any idiocy Pace might dream up

RunKC 01-03-2018 10:28 AM

Nagy would be a huge hire for the Bears, but I wouldn’t take the job if I was Nagy.

Rodgers will still be there for at least 5-7 more years, Stafford will be there for another decade and the Vikings have a very good team.

Not exactly a good spot to succeed in the next 2-3 years.


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