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tmax63 08-28-2018 06:35 AM

Preseason is for playing some snaps together, getting some chemistry and rubbing off the rust from last year. When 1/3 to 1/2 of the D hasn't played together yet I don't see a big red switch to suddenly turn them on and have them playing at a quality level come week 1. And if they aren't doing the things that they plan on during the season I see it even more problematic. The Chiefs starting schedule is such that they need to be rolling out of the gate, not doing all the things that preseason is designed to prepare them for.

TEX 08-28-2018 06:56 AM

The Defense:

Secondary
Nelson - JAG
Fuller - Up and coming young talent
Amerson - JAG- (One of the worst CB's in the league)
Berry - Overpaid former Pro Bowler (worth every penny IF healthy)
Murray - JAG
Scandrick - JAG

Front Seven

Hitchens (ILB) - JAG (paid too much for what he brings)
Houston (OLB) - Overpaid former Pro Bowler (Often missing when most needed)
Ford/Kpass (OLB) - Ford = BUST / Kpass - Up & Coming Talent
Bailey (DE) - JAG
Jones (DE) - Up and coming Talent
Williams (DT) - JAG
Ragland - JAG (Until he proves he can stay healthy)

SO - we have 2 former overpaid Pro Bowlers who are not living up to their contracts. 3 young guys with talent. 6 / 7 JAGS at any given time with Amerison needing to be cut yesterday

Not good is how I see it. :shrug:

bricks 08-28-2018 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 13696201)
The Defense:

Secondary
Nelson - JAG
Fuller - Up and coming young talent
Amerson - JAG- (One of the worst CB's in the league)
Berry - Overpaid former Pro Bowler (worth every penny IF healthy)
Murray - JAG
Scandrick - JAG

Front Seven

Hitchens (ILB) - JAG (paid too much for what he brings)
Houston (OLB) - Overpaid former Pro Bowler (Often missing when most needed)
Ford/Kpass (OLB) - Ford = BUST / Kpass - Up & Coming Talent
Bailey (DE) - JAG
Jones (DE) - Up and coming Talent
Williams (DT) - JAG
Ragland - JAG (Until he proves he can stay healthy)

SO - we have 2 former overpaid Pro Bowlers who are not living up to their contracts. 3 young guys with talent. 6 / 7 JAGS at any given time with Amerison needing to be cut yesterday

Not good is how I see it. :shrug:

I would add Derrick Nnadi to the list of young, up and coming talent. I think he is gonna be a starter one day.

TEX 08-28-2018 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by bricks (Post 13696215)
I would add Derrick Nnadi to the list of young, up and coming talent. I think he is gonna be a starter one day.

Agreed. He's showing he's better than those usually lined up in front of him. My list was just a play on what / who was listed (mostly the starters). But yes, the Chiefs may have something in Nnadi.

Plus - Dude has this CRAZY stare when looking at you. It's like he looks right through you. I like those "CRAZY STARE" guys! LMAO

RunKC 08-28-2018 07:32 AM

Starting defense from that disaster

Bailey-didn’t play
Williams-didn’t play
Jones-barely played..6 snaps
Houston-barely played..11 snaps
Ford-barely played..11 snaps
Berry-didn’t play
Nelson-didn’t play
Ragland-first game action of the year
Hitchens-first game action of the year

As said before, they looked like a defense filled with rust from the vets and a bunch of young inexperienced players.

oldman 08-28-2018 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13696226)
Starting defense from that disaster

Bailey-didn’t play
Williams-didn’t play
Jones-barely played..6 snaps
Houston-barely played..11 snaps
Ford-barely played..11 snaps
Berry-didn’t play
Nelson-didn’t play
Ragland-first game action of the year
Hitchens-first game action of the year

As said before, they looked like a defense filled with rust from the vets and a bunch of young inexperienced players.

Exactly. There was a whole lot of miscommunication and guys sucking wind. Even if Berry isn't the Berry of old, he's a coach on the field for the secondary. I see no reason to have Ford out there unless it's a passing down. He can't contain the run and he sure can't cover anyone.

Eleazar 08-28-2018 08:43 AM

Of course, everyone slows down to take a CLOSER look at a traffic accident too

The Franchise 08-28-2018 09:39 AM

Will our defense be as bad as they were in Chicago? No. But what it does show is that if ONE of our starting CBs go down.....we're absolutely ****ed. Amerson becomes a starter and gets targeted like Gaines from last season.

RunKC 08-28-2018 09:42 AM

FYI Amerson was moved to 3rd CB yesterday with Nelson back and is rotating with Scandrick. Sounds like he is moving to the 4th corner spot.

Just cut him and move Tremon Smith to the 4th corner. Get that guy on the field so he can learn. He gets burned? Oh well like it wouldn’t be any different than Amerson.

O.city 08-28-2018 09:43 AM

They'll cut Amerson.

ROYC75 08-28-2018 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 13696007)
ROFL at freaking out over preseason. It's stupid.

Maybe they are thinking it's better to freak in preseason than regular season when it's almost too late to fix it?

Maybe?


Could just be a bunch of FREAKS!

Marcellus 08-28-2018 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 13695511)
They played way worse than they look on paper, that's for sure.

No doubt.

The biggest thing I find interesting is that weird stat I read that the starting defense has lined up exactly 1 time in preseason in the dime defense which they ran 60% of the time last season.

I'm not sure what that tells me other than we haven't seen the personnel packages on the field together we will see the majority of the season I guess.

That doesn't absolve them of poor tackling and losing 1 on 1 matches but its interesting none the less.

O.city 08-28-2018 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 13696420)
No doubt.

The biggest thing I find interesting is that weird stat I read that the starting defense has lined up exactly 1 time in preseason in the dime defense which they ran 60% of the time last season.

I'm not sure what that tells me other than we haven't seen the personnel packages on the field together we will see the majority of the season I guess.

That doesn't absolve them of poor tackling and losing 1 on 1 matches but its interesting none the less.

Maybe means they aren't planning to play the dime defense as much as they did last season, seeing as how they got gauged when they did it

Marcellus 08-28-2018 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13696421)
Maybe means they aren't planning to play the dime defense as much as they did last season, seeing as how they got gauged when they did it

I don't think that's the case as usually the offensive personnel will dictate that, but maybe you are correct.

ROYC75 08-28-2018 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13696417)
They'll cut Amerson.

NOPE, too young and they will roll the dice coaching up a cheaper player.


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