They put chili and onions on that?

Excellent!

I don't give a **** what the ref announcer said.

The PLAY CLOCK started.

25 seconds.

The GAME CLOCK was at 9 seconds, and due to the penalty by the Browns on the previous play, would not start until the ball was snapped.

MAHOMES said he thought he could spike the ball there, and Reid didn't know he couldn't either.

The rules states clearly that the QB can only legally spike the ball FROM UNDER CENTER and SPECIFICALLY TO SAVE TIME ON THE GAME CLOCK WHILE THE GAME CLOCK IS RUNNING.

The QB can ONLY spike the ball to save time on a running GAME clock.

the refs set and ran the PLAY clock.

It's in the rule book :

. https://nflcommunications.com/Docume...20Rulebook.pdf

Mahomes admitted that is exactly what he tried to do, and that he didn't know that he couldn't do that...and neither did Reid.

So the refs called it 100% correctly and so Reid screwed the pooch.

It's sad that I know that rule better than the announcers AND the coach.

We're having the best streak of weather anyone can ask for and I was in the woods with a backpack, dog, wife and was barely receiving a full set of bars to pick up Mitch on the QCountry app.

I'm throwing caution to the wind fellas!!!

Well, are you insinuating if it were a running play, or if the back stayed in to pass block, Speaks would have been extremely effective?

But the part that it seems your post isn't taking into consideration, is that defenses don't actually KNOW if an offense is running or throwing...or if they are throwing, who knows which side? Deep or short? Rollout? They may have lined up in that run formation fully intending to run...but then Mayfield changed it to a HB wheel BECAUSE Speaks was over there!? What was Speaks supposed to do - rush the QB and let the HB go completely free? Or ****ing TRY TO COVER HIM!?

I mean, no one was bitching when Reid brought Reek into the backfield and got him isolated on a LB that he TORCHED down the sideline in NE, and I'm sure that no one thinks BB planned to cover Tyreek Hill with a ****ing LB, neither - Reid is good at that shit, getting mismatches. It's called 'the game within the game'. ROFL

Jesus ****ing Christ, are you ****ing trolling me with this ignorant shit, or do you just not know how football is played??

Cool, free timeout, no reason to even think about using your timeout or needing to save it for later, cool.

Now can we be friends?

One other thing, why’d the ref start the play clock only and then run like his hair was on fire?

#meeshmeeshwatch2018

I know exactly how football is played. It was clear that Speaks was responsible for the back. And no, I am not suggesting that if the back had stayed in to block that Speaks would have been effective.

If the back had stayed in to block, it just means we got lucky. Last week he was beaten on a play almost exactly the same, except the back did stay in to block, and Speaks left his assignment because he thought he had a chance to get to the QB, but the play broke down, and the back leaked out and Speaks was 6 yards away when he caught the ball.

Either way, Sutton put Speaks into a situation where he could not possibly be successful.

Do you ever watch the all-22 film? If you did, you would see that Sutton puts his linebackers in no win situations far too often. If you look at Speaks' skill-set objectively, it is very clear that dropping back in pass coverage, or shadowing a running back, is not one of his skills. I was expressing my frustration with Sutton for not understanding his personnel.

I don't know you, but you are obviously are a football coach, or get paid professionally for your football knowledge. Good for you. I would think that any coach, no matter what level, would say that their job is to put their players in a position to win. That includes winning in the film room and winning every individual snap.

A huge key in putting your players in a position to win every snap, is knowing what that player can, and can't do. If you put them in a position that requires a skill they don't have, you have failed.

I respect that you have a different opinion than I do, but I don't respect you, or any other member of this board that has to resort to peacocking and name calling just to make yourself feel better about your own opinion.



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It's Bob Sutton's fault that Houston, Zombo, and Smith all got hurt and Speaks is all that's left, and that Hitchens and Ragland have basically dogshit?

O'Daniel kinda got caught out of position/got beat today, too...but Sutton has to play who he has.

The LBs, except Ford, have been garbage.

Good offensive coaches will exploit any weaknessess.

Gonna be tough sledding against Gurley...but it won't be because Bob Sutton tells guys to run slow or take bad angles or use pisspoor tackling techniques. That's like blaming Reid for Conley's 1st qtr drop.

Yeah, definitely friends - gotta go to bed.

Read this thread to answer your questions : https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=318636

Injuries are obviously not Sutton's fault. But his inability to adapt his scheme to fit the players he has available to him is definitely his fault.

We mocked the 49ers for trying to cover Watkins with a linebacker. Offensively, we manipulate the defense into a position that creates such a ridiculous mismatch. But any time we start a play on defense with Speaks responsible for a TE or RB in man coverage, we have done the offense's work for them.

Speaks is listed on the depth chart as a ROLB, and his weight is listed at 285 pounds. Allen Bailey is listed on the depth chart as a RDE, and his weight is listed at 288 pounds. In college Speaks was a defensive tackle and defensive end. 285 pounds makes for a massive linebacker.

Speaks' 40 time is/was 4.87, and Bailey's was 4.77. So, their weight, and speed are very similar, but no one expects Bailey to cover anyone in man coverage. So why does Sutton put Speaks into a situation with such a low chance of success?

I am not saying that Bailey and Speaks are not capable of dropping off the LOS and playing a little zone coverage a few yards deep, but if either are matched up one on one with a TE or RB they are going to lose that match-up.

So, if the defense Sutton calls for a specific play or offensive personnel package requires someone to cover the RB, why is that player Speaks, and not Tremon Smith or even DOD? There is a much higher chance for success if either of them are covering the RB instead of Speaks.

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No doubt, I finally got to see the game as I was watching my daughter doing gymnastics like a linebacker at an all day meet...What I saw were some phantom calls...The strip sack especially...Ummm did anyone see a flag or was it that Ford got there so fast that they saw it as an unfair advantage for KC to have impactful defensive plays or was it Mahomes isn't allowed to start an offensive play that to close to the end zone? How about the 3 different holding calls from 1 official, thinking if I call a bunch, surely someone will agree with at least one of them. I mean seriously it appears that they are coming up with new rules or digging up ones from when they had to manually wind the play clock for the intentional grounding. Could the officiating crews get together and decide if they need to call equalizing calls for less equipt team. Or might there be a fringe group of overly active buffet going officials that get tired of running up and down the field with the boys.

Your talking the Clevelander Hi-Boy now.

Good read as always, George. It's always the 1st thing I read after a game. Just to echo a couple things you said.
Andy has to get the penalties under control. That unsportsmanlike on Hitchens was just plain stupid. You can't give any team that many chances in the red zone and expect to go very far in the playoffs. That said, the zebras seemed to be extra vigilant watching our guys. Ford's offsides that negated his strip sack was a prime example. I watched that replay 3 times and I think he was close, but not in, the neutral zone. If you want to watch Ford, check out the guys mugging him on just about every pass rush.
The O-line performed pretty well. Like you said, if we get LDT back for the playoff run, we ought to be pretty solid. I'd like to see us get a real LG (calling Big 10 linemen) and, if we keep Morse, both Devey and Reiter given a chance to compete for the C job.
Getting both Sorensen and Houston back soon should help that tackling problem, I'll hold my breath on Berry.

Don’t, you’ll die.