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Pitt Gorilla 11-21-2019 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14611922)
They zone blocked that one. I have a theory about it, not sure it holds water though.

For the past few years, hell maybe since Andy got here, they've come out early and tried to be this intricate man blocking team, with pulls and whatever.

Halfway thru each year, they simplify and go to a more ZBS and start having more success.

Seriously, watch how many times we try to run this pulling guard, etc, stuff. It doesn't seem to work.
it’s certainly not going to work with Wiley and Reuter pulling. Morse was good at it, though.

O.city 11-21-2019 11:28 AM
It's one thing to have them pull and get out in front of screens and such, but you've got smaller athletic OL, so just let them zone everyone up.

srvy 11-21-2019 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14611922)
They zone blocked that one. I have a theory about it, not sure it holds water though.

For the past few years, hell maybe since Andy got here, they've come out early and tried to be this intricate man blocking team, with pulls and whatever.

Halfway thru each year, they simplify and go to a more ZBS and start having more success.

Seriously, watch how many times we try to run this pulling guard, etc, stuff. It doesn't seem to work.
Injuries always hit hard it seems in today's NFL your lucky to get 3 games in a row with a healthy line. It seems always with Andy we are juggling people around making street signings. It comes back to simplifying reducing the playbook etc. till health returns. I admire old school o lines Dallas puts on the field. Big ugly fat maulers. If I had my choice though I would do like Indy did those guy are gonna be the best soon and for a long time.

O.city 11-21-2019 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by srvy (Post 14611941)
Injuries always hit hard it seems in today's NFL your lucky to get 3 games in a row with a healthy line. It seems always with Andy we are juggling people around making street signings. It comes back to simplifying reducing the playbook etc. till health returns. I admire old school o lines Dallas puts on the field. Big ugly fat maulers. If I had my choice though I would do like Indy did those guy are gonna be the best soon and for a long time.
Yeah, the big maulers that are like that are fun. I don't have a problem with it, but when you look at how those teams built those lines, it's a lot of early picks and big contracts.

Chiefs need to do that at G or C probably soon though.

Pitt Gorilla 11-21-2019 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14611975)
Yeah, the big maulers that are like that are fun. I don't have a problem with it, but when you look at how those teams built those lines, it's a lot of early picks and big contracts.

Chiefs need to do that at G or C probably soon though.
The Cowboys' line is incredible. Due to that, and their very strong skill position players and defense, they're going to be really tough to beat in the NFC.

Fansy the Famous Bard 11-21-2019 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 14611909)
This is where I noticed Yelder a couple times. He's a blocking TE and a pretty good one.
Watching that clip, what in the world was Bosa thinking. He actually had played it perfectly, initially. Was sucking up a double-team (Yelder and Schwartz), was plugging the gap, but then he stops moving and tries to "throw" Yelder off... essentially allowing Yelder to transition to the next level AND letting Schwartz seal him to give Shady a nice lane behind Yelder. That was just a terrible decision when he was playing it perfectly then essentially handed KC a TD by stopping his flow with the ball.

Discuss Thrower 11-21-2019 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14611798)
RUN THE ****ING BALL ANDY

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Watching live I missed the block(s) by Deon Yelder on McCoy&#39;s touchdown run. <a href="https://t.co/iQSjbtwCPy">pic.twitter.com/iQSjbtwCPy</a></p>&mdash; Sam Mellinger (@mellinger) <a href="https://twitter.com/mellinger/status/1197544661159677953?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 21, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
I have a boner...

DJ's left nut 11-21-2019 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 14612001)
The Cowboys' line is incredible. Due to that, and their very strong skill position players and defense, they're going to be really tough to beat in the NFC.
They're 6-4 with wins over the Giants, Redskins, Dolphins, Eagles, Giants and Staffordless Lions.

They lost to the Jets.

They have a single quality win and a really shitty loss. They're not 'really tough to beat' - several teams have already done it.

Seems an odd team to crown.

DJ's left nut 11-21-2019 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Fansy the Famous Bard (Post 14612093)
Watching that clip, what in the world was Bosa thinking. He actually had played it perfectly, initially. Was sucking up a double-team (Yelder and Schwartz), was plugging the gap, but then he stops moving and tries to "throw" Yelder off... essentially allowing Yelder to transition to the next level AND letting Schwartz seal him to give Shady a nice lane behind Yelder. That was just a terrible decision when he was playing it perfectly then essentially handed KC a TD by stopping his flow with the ball.
Funny how that works, isn't it?

Our guys cut their own throats by trying to do WAY too much all the time. And they aren't anywhere near the raw talents of Joey Bosa. If a guy as talented as Joey Bosa can blow up a defense by being greedy, then it demonstrates pretty loudly to the guys on OUR DL that maybe they should just play the damn scheme and let their teammates do their jobs.

You contrast that with the Chiefs on the 12ish when Clark/Sorensen/Hitchens and Speaks all did their job in completely hammering the same kind of run and you see really quickly how important team defense is.

Fansy the Famous Bard 11-21-2019 01:25 PM
The talent on the Cowboys is off the charts compared to their W/L... #1 YPG Offense and #7 YPG Defense... They commit turnovers, Special Teams is terrible, and their Coaching staff are monkeys. Regardless of all that they are talented, and would be a tough opponent. 3 of their 4 losses were by 4 pts or less.

O.city 11-21-2019 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14612105)
Funny how that works, isn't it?

Our guys cut their own throats by trying to do WAY too much all the time. And they aren't anywhere near the raw talents of Joey Bosa. If a guy as talented as Joey Bosa can blow up a defense by being greedy, then it demonstrates pretty loudly to the guys on OUR DL that maybe they should just play the damn scheme and let their teammates do their jobs.

You contrast that with the Chiefs on the 12ish when Clark/Sorensen/Hitchens and Speaks all did their job in completely hammering the same kind of run and you see really quickly how important team defense is.
I think he thought Shady was gonna jump inside. If you look, when he tries to disengage was when Shady stutter stepped a bit.

rabblerouser 11-21-2019 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by TLO (Post 14495957)
Yippie skippy our 3rd TE caught 2 passes.

Not trying to be an ass, but it doesn't really matter.

This is the typical Li'lUQuhiefyBurger thread.


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