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Shields68 08-31-2021 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 15808572)
Donkos on line 1.

Maybe but would think that Bridgewater is a more experienced Mac Jones at this point.

Simply Red 08-31-2021 08:51 AM

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Godzalez 08-31-2021 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefBlueCFC (Post 15808519)
Mac Jones that good or Cam been that bad?

Cam single handedly lost them 2-3 games last year. I think this is the right call for them.

wazu 08-31-2021 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 15808585)
Teddy Pendergrass is actually better!

Agreed, and Mac Jones would've been better still.

Flying High D 08-31-2021 08:59 AM

Probably going to try and sneak him on their PS.

BryanBusby 08-31-2021 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 15808554)
Yes.

Cam looks awful (still).

Jones looked good - saw all the processing strengths we saw at Alabama and his passes had a little more zip than I expected.

I don't think he's a superstar in the making, but he's a quality quarterback. On the low end I think he ends up Kurt Cousins, high end maybe something like Matt Ryan (normal Matt Ryan, not the MVP version).

He's exactly the kind of guy BB is going to prefer because he'll run the offense as designed and do a solid job of it. Plays won't fail because of Jones like they would because of Newton.

Jones had a great pre-season and Cam looked arguably better than Jones. Don't think that's it.

DJ's left nut 08-31-2021 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 15808579)
Add to all of this Cam probably isn't worth the distractions he creates just to be the team's backup.

And you run into the same problem you always run into when you have running QBs as your backup.

When you have to scrap your base offense if the backup comes in, that's a bad backup. You want your backup to be able to come in and at least run a watered down version of the offense you've been running.

That's why a guy like RGIII could latch on in Baltimore as a backup but not really anywhere else. And why a guy like Chase Daniel or Matt Cassel (or Chad Henne for that matter) could last for 10 years as a backup - because they will go in there and run the offense.

Cam's not a useful backup because he can't step in for Jones and run the same system. They have to rebuild the offense to use him. That just doesn't work.

Shields68 08-31-2021 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 15808603)
Jones had a great pre-season and Cam looked arguably better than Jones. Don't think that's it.

More like Mac is a rookie. Cam is not going to improve. If they are close right now might as well play the guy who is probably your future.

If your going to do that might as well cut the guy who will be a distraction and give him a chance to play elsewhere. Best for everyone around.

BryanBusby 08-31-2021 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Shields68 (Post 15808608)
More like Mac is a rookie. Cam is not going to improve. If they are close right now might as well play the guy who is probably your future.

If your going to do that might as well cut the guy who will be a distraction and give him a chance to play elsewhere. Best for everyone around.

I agree. They were right to move on from Cam but it's not because Cam was bad in camp.

He would definitely be an upgrade in Indy, Philly, New Orleans and Houston.

Shields68 08-31-2021 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 15808604)
And you run into the same problem you always run into when you have running QBs as your backup.

When you have to scrap your base offense if the backup comes in, that's a bad backup. You want your backup to be able to come in and at least run a watered down version of the offense you've been running.

That's why a guy like RGIII could latch on in Baltimore as a backup but not really anywhere else. And why a guy like Chase Daniel or Matt Cassel (or Chad Henne for that matter) could last for 10 years as a backup - because they will go in there and run the offense.

Cam's not a useful backup because he can't step in for Jones and run the same system. They have to rebuild the offense to use him. That just doesn't work.

Guess there are two considerations for a backup. One short term in game. Which the above might be true. Think Cam could be all right not great.

The other is Multiple games. You want a QB come in and be able to play .500 and give yourself a chance to win in 4 game stretch if you have to change the game plan so be it. the Saints did this last year. Cam probably does that. But the big thing is that I doubt Cam has the personality to be happy in a backup role. Sort of like Kap. Eventually if he is not starting it just is not going to work. To much division in the team unity.

BWillie 08-31-2021 09:12 AM

Would be a good back up to Mahomes...

Henne ain't getting any younger.

DJ's left nut 08-31-2021 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 15808611)
I agree. They were right to move on from Cam but it's not because Cam was bad in camp.

He would definitely be an upgrade in Indy, Philly, New Orleans and Houston.

Indy? Not if Wentz returns shortly.

New Orleans -- I still think Jamies will have a good year and Cam isn't going to fit into what Payton wants to do offensively at all.

Philly - Maybe. Might even be a quality backup option for Hurts.

Houston - What does Cam Newton actually do well that Tyrod Taylor doesn't? They're both underneath passers these days who's legs present their biggest strengths. I'm not sure Cam actually would be an upgrade over Taylor. I'm pretty sure they're 6 in one hand, half dozen in the other. And Taylor has always been smart with the football if nothing else. And fairly precise underneath. Newton's not either of those things.

I'm just not sure what Cam Newton, with his diminished arm strength and scattershot accuracy, actually brings to the table anymore. The risk/reward was always in his favor when he could break a run or fire a bomb downfield, but he's more of a power runner when he takes off now and his arm doesn't stretch the field anymore.

What's he actually do well at this point in his career? Or even average? He takes more off the table than he brings to it anymore.

Flying High D 08-31-2021 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 15808615)
Would be a good back up to Mahomes...

Henne ain't getting any younger.

It’s risky to bring in a back-up that potentially could be better than your starter.

Reroka 08-31-2021 09:17 AM

Who really cares, Cam has been a broke dick for a couple of years now.

Carolina really ****ed him over.

HC_Chief 08-31-2021 09:17 AM

Broke dick prima donna. Hell to the ****ing no. Let that turd go ruin another franchise. the faid sound like an appropriate fit.


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