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Rausch 12-12-2021 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16005579)
at least today's game ended any notion that we need to RuN tHe BaLl more

the Chiefs running game was terrible for most of the day

they have mostly worked out the kinks in the passing game and high volume there is still the way forward, as it always was

A lot of our problem was the O line coming together. It takes time and it's a lot easier to run the ball and block forward than it is to pass block. I would have been fine running the ball more to start the season and throwing more as the team finds their comfort zone...

dirk digler 12-12-2021 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 16005576)
We have 3 good HB's even if none of them are great...

Replace good with average then yeah I agree :)

-King- 12-12-2021 07:39 PM

We have a collection of average at best RBs. Just use each one to their strength and dont have any one of them trying to do too much.

dirk digler 12-12-2021 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16005579)
at least today's game ended any notion that we need to RuN tHe BaLl more

the Chiefs running game was terrible for most of the day

they have mostly worked out the kinks in the passing game and high volume there is still the way forward, as it always was

I would be hesitant to take away anything we did offensively as some kind of turning point. We looked back the last time we played the Raiders then reverted back.

Rausch 12-12-2021 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 16005592)
We have a collection of average at best RBs. Just use each one to their strength and dont have any one of them trying to do too much.

With that said CEH is supposed to be a brilliant pass catcher who can run all the routes but we throw to him very little. I don't know yet about this week but last week they had pretty much the same targets (CEH and Williams.)

dlphg9 12-12-2021 07:47 PM

I don't really care that Clyde has 4.5 ypc. If a RB can't average that behind this O line, which kills in run blocking, and the D is begging us to run by only having 4 players not in pass coverage, then that player shouldn't be in the league.

Yeah he scored 2 TDs today. That gives him 7 rushing TDs in 21 games. That's not good.

Rausch 12-12-2021 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 16005607)
I don't really care that Clyde has 4.5 ypc. If a RB can't average that behind this O line, which kills in run blocking, and the D is begging us to run by only having 4 players not in pass coverage, then that player shouldn't be in the league.

Yeah he scored 2 TDs today. That gives him 7 rushing TDs in 21 games. That's not good.

Gore is the only home run threat at HB. I have no problem with giving him the ball more in hopes the run forces teams to respect it...

KCUnited 12-12-2021 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 16005592)
We have a collection of average at best RBs. Just use each one to their strength and dont have any one of them trying to do too much.

So same as the last 5 years

dlphg9 12-12-2021 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 16005600)
With that said CEH is supposed to be a brilliant pass catcher who can run all the routes but we throw to him very little. I don't know yet about this week but last week they had pretty much the same targets (CEH and Williams.)

I'm guessing he really isn't as good at pass catching as advertised. 3 receptions for 5 yards today. That's the opposite of good. That's shit.

-King- 12-12-2021 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 16005600)
With that said CEH is supposed to be a brilliant pass catcher who can run all the routes but we throw to him very little. I don't know yet about this week but last week they had pretty much the same targets (CEH and Williams.)

Coaches for some reason think Williams is a better pass catcher than CEH.

For a bigger dude, he's surprisingly really good at being a pass catching back but I don't know if I believe he's better than CEH cause they've never even really tried to get CEH heavily involved in the passing game. But for some reason Williams is always the 3rd down back and will almost always get rotated in on pass plays designed for the RB.

dlphg9 12-12-2021 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 16005610)
Gore is the only home run threat at HB. I have no problem with giving him the ball more in hopes the run forces teams to respect it...

Yep, give him 8-10 carries and he's probably gonna break a big run or 2. That'll probably get teams to stop dropping everyone back into coverage.

They know CEH isn't going to get too far and they know we can't run it 40 times, so they'll let him run 10 times for 45 yards.

dlphg9 12-12-2021 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 16005615)
Coaches for some reason think Williams is a better pass catcher than CEH.

For a bigger dude, he's surprisingly really good at being a pass catching back but I don't know if I believe he's better than CEH cause they've never even really tried to get CEH heavily involved in the passing game. But for some reason Williams is always the 3rd down back and will almost always get rotated in on pass plays designed for the RB.

I think the coaches know a bit more about who the best pass catching back is!!!!11!1!!

I just said it before someone else.

Marcellus 12-12-2021 07:56 PM

I was waiting on this dumbass thread.

Tribal Warfare 12-12-2021 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 16005613)
I'm guessing he really isn't as good at pass catching as advertised. 3 receptions for 5 yards today. That's the opposite of good. That's shit.


CEH is too short to catch high passes more often than not he doesn't have the reach to catch it or he tips it.

tk13 12-12-2021 08:05 PM

Regardless of who the best RB, it'd be nice to have someone who can take it to the house, but we just need someone who is consistent and can rip off 5 yard chunks against these soft defenses and force teams to respect the run game.

Maybe that's Gore, but he was a boom/bust player today. Had one amazing run and then 8 other carries for 15 yards.


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