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O.city 03-01-2023 02:55 PM

I mean if you want a true Z WR who can do all the stuff that comes with what they want....he'd fit pretty well right?

MahomesMagic 03-01-2023 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 16832587)
Hard pass for a 2nd. There will be some really nice WRs available in the 2nd round this year.

I'd also prefer to not tie up cap space in an aging WR.

You're not getting DHop impact in this draft's 2nd round.

oldman 03-01-2023 03:00 PM

The Kansas City Chiefs won the Super Bowl without a star wide receiver kind of says it all, doesn't it? What would we have to give up to gain said "SWR"?? Jones? Yeah, right. I think I'll pass since we have MVS, Toney, and Moore under contract. Add 2 of the Ross clan's finest, a Juju that wants to come back, and the draft on the horizon. We have to quit jizzing ourselves over WRs when we don't have a LT (or RT for that matter) and important current team members due some cash in a couple years.

The Kansas City Chiefs won the Super Bowl without a star wide receiver. Big deal. What we do have is one Patrick Lavon Mahomes II. Let that sink in for a bit.

Hoover 03-01-2023 03:00 PM

I guess it depends.

What are his cap hits for the remaining years of his contract. And can I just walk away if he declines? If so I might be tempted, but I doubt he will get you a 2nd. I can see the Chiefs dangling a combination of picks with the highest being a 4th.

notorious 03-01-2023 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16832515)
Wut? Those aren't the cap hits for the team that trades for him. Arizona eats roughly 22 million in dead money and it's essentially a 2 year roughly 35 million dollar deal.

17.5/year.

Damn, that’s a tough call.

Pitt Gorilla 03-01-2023 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 16832696)
You're not getting DHop impact in this draft's 2nd round.

We weren't getting Hill's "impact" in the draft either, but it was still the right move. The contract matters. The trade compensation matters. The age and years of control matter.

ROYC75 03-01-2023 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16832690)
I mean if you want a true Z WR who can do all the stuff that comes with what they want....he'd fit pretty well right?

Can he? At 31 when the season grows upon us! For how long?

If both players plays until 34 yrs of age, do you want the guy that is 31 when the season starts or the one that will be 27 when the season starts?

Now the thing we do not know are the unknowns! Injuries, how long one plays so you have to look at all the other things around it.

O.city 03-01-2023 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 16832706)
17.5/year.

Damn, that’s a tough call.

I'd rather pay him that, than JJSS 14 I think.

MahomesMagic 03-01-2023 03:03 PM

If Juju wants 15 million I trade the 2nd for DHop everytime if he plays on this current contract for us.

O.city 03-01-2023 03:03 PM

He'd be a 1200 yard 8 TD guy here in this offense. Would be fun to see.

MahomesMagic 03-01-2023 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 16832707)
We weren't getting Hill's "impact" in the draft either, but it was still the right move. The contract matters. The trade compensation matters. The age and years of control matter.

Of course the contract matters.

You don't understand the value if you think DHop isn't worth what he would be paid here for.

The issue is will he want more? If so then no.

If he plays on the current deal it's an easy yes.

Hoover 03-01-2023 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16832710)
I'd rather pay him that, than JJSS 14 I think.

And that's where I am.

New World Order 03-01-2023 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16832710)
I'd rather pay him that, than JJSS 14 I think.

For sure

I think with the amount of contributing rookies we have the play for Hopkins at 17 per isn't a bad idea at all.

MahomesMagic 03-01-2023 03:07 PM

I loved what Juju did for us but he has more limitations.

He is a top 16 NFL WR as a slot, his value drops way off outside.

Veach stated he loves versatility. Dhop can play anywhere at a high level.

O.city 03-01-2023 03:09 PM

I can't imagine he is playing on the current deal.


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