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AdolfOliverBush 05-16-2023 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by 493rd (Post 16946628)
Product of the sharp decline we’ve seen in our civilization over the past 15 years or so. No God, no family, no morals, etc. But hey, at least we’ve got TikTok, where every narcissist on the planet can get their fill.

Right, because prior to 2008 we were all Christians with typical nuclear families, and sang "Kum ba ya" to each other on a regular basis.

Hammock Parties 05-16-2023 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by cabletech94 (Post 16946635)
My god that’s a lot to read.
I’ll just let Clay keep on adding bullet points.

K thanks bye.

mother****er wore a TUX

DID JESUS EVER WEAR A TUXEDO? TO ANYTHING?

Mecca 05-16-2023 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16946639)
mother****er wore a TUX

DID JESUS EVER WEAR A TUXEDO? TO ANYTHING?

Jesus is proof that you can have long hair and a beard while wearing nothing more than a sheet and sandles and people will still love you.

Megatron96 05-16-2023 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by POND_OF_RED (Post 16946520)
Kickers who start showing consistent signs of regression are worrisome. Too many teams keep kickers around too long and waste too much salary cap space on them thinking they can’t be replaced. We’re just emotionally scarred from the kicker who shall not be named, but there is no way a team should get too complacent with the 35th most accurate kicker in the NFL when there’s only 32 teams.

Lol, talk about misleading your audience.

Butker has been rock solid steady with his accuracy for his entire career (excepting last season) with a kicking percentage of 90.2%, making him one of the most accurate kickers in NFL history.

Last season, and only last season, his accuracy dropped to 75%, due to a high ankle sprain injury he sustained in Week 1, that lingered for more than half the season. So when you say he's the 35th PK in the NFL, what you meant to say is that in 2022 he injured his ankle on his plant foot, missed several games, and the result was a 75% accuracy percentage, which made him the 35th PK for 2022.

Not the 35th PK in the league for the last 5 years. Or the last two years. You're taking a single injury-impacted season and blowing it up into an indictment of Butker's entire future. Which is just about the dumbest way to use stats.

Btw, Harrison doesn't have an injury history to speak of outside of his injury last season. He's 27 and has been very durable and reliable throughout his 6-year career. Not to mention widely regarded as the 2nd-most accurate kicker in the NFL behind Justin Tucker.

Btw again: Tucker, currently the best PK in the NFL and a shoo-in HOFer, also sustained an injury last season and his accuracy dropped to 86% in 2022. No doubt you'd cut him as well I suppose.

Or maybe you'd have cut Tucker after his third season when his accuracy dropped all the way down to 85%? Assuredly after his accuracy dropped to 82% the following year?

Well, you'd have mocked around the league as one of NFL history's biggest morons, considering Tucker posted a 90+% accuracy rating 4 out of the next five seasons.




There is no regression. Butker got hurt, and for the team he tried to return too early and play through it. He's 100% healthy now and his accuracy will go right back up into the 90% range, making him again one of the top-3 most accurate kickers in the NFL.

Titty Meat 05-16-2023 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 16946572)
NFL MVP Patrick Mahomes says Christian faith 'plays a role in everything I do' ahead of Super Bowl



https://www.christianpost.com/news/p...hing-i-do.html

Does that mean he hates trans?

Pablo 05-16-2023 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 16946696)
Does that mean he hates trans?

That just means he’s like 99% of people though

scho63 05-16-2023 11:24 AM

Katie and her husband ran into Butker while he was out for a run before last season's opener here in AZ. Said he was ripped to shreds.

RealSNR 05-16-2023 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 16946696)
Does that mean he hates trans?


I don’t think he hates them, I just think he just prefers the speed of air travel combined with the convenience of owning a car if you can afford it.

POND_OF_RED 05-16-2023 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16946680)
Lol, talk about misleading your audience.

Butker has been rock solid steady with his accuracy for his entire career (excepting last season) with a kicking percentage of 90.2%, making him one of the most accurate kickers in NFL history.

Last season, and only last season, his accuracy dropped to 75%, due to a high ankle sprain injury he sustained in Week 1, that lingered for more than half the season. So when you say he's the 35th PK in the NFL, what you meant to say is that in 2022 he injured his ankle on his plant foot, missed several games, and the result was a 75% accuracy percentage, which made him the 35th PK for 2022.

Not the 35th PK in the league for the last 5 years. Or the last two years. You're taking a single injury-impacted season and blowing it up into an indictment of Butker's entire future. Which is just about the dumbest way to use stats.

Btw, Harrison doesn't have an injury history to speak of outside of his injury last season. He's 27 and has been very durable and reliable throughout his 6-year career. Not to mention widely regarded as the 2nd-most accurate kicker in the NFL behind Justin Tucker.

Btw again: Tucker, currently the best PK in the NFL and a shoo-in HOFer, also sustained an injury last season and his accuracy dropped to 86% in 2022. No doubt you'd cut him as well I suppose.

Or maybe you'd have cut Tucker after his third season when his accuracy dropped all the way down to 85%? Assuredly after his accuracy dropped to 82% the following year?

Well, you'd have mocked around the league as one of NFL history's biggest morons, considering Tucker posted a 90+% accuracy rating 4 out of the next five seasons.




There is no regression. Butker got hurt, and for the team he tried to return too early and play through it. He's 100% healthy now and his accuracy will go right back up into the 90% range, making him again one of the top-3 most accurate kickers in the NFL.

Yes I would have cut Justin Tucker a long time ago. He’s a ****ing kicker. No kicker should be taking up that much salary space. He’s a prime example of teams holding onto kickers too long for sentimental reasons. Look at the highest paid kickers in the league and look at what their teams have done lately. Everyone can have revisions of how they view Butker, but there wasn’t a single Chiefs fan completely comfortable with him kicking any field goals this season. Sure, he stepped up when it mattered, but let’s not get ahead of ourselves and act like other kickers would have missed those kicks somehow. Just because we remember the big misses doesn’t mean that the majority of kicks in big game situations like that aren’t going through the uprights. Most kickers should be pretty automatic. It’s their jobs.

raybec 4 05-16-2023 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by POND_OF_RED (Post 16946470)
That link doesn’t have the article either. You think I’m spending time copying and pasting a link to read a religious story about a kicker most of us want replaced? ROFL

You sure about that?

Mecca 05-16-2023 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by POND_OF_RED (Post 16946733)
Yes I would have cut Justin Tucker a long time ago. He’s a ****ing kicker. No kicker should be taking up that much salary space. He’s a prime example of teams holding onto kickers too long for sentimental reasons. Look at the highest paid kickers in the league and look at what their teams have done lately. Everyone can have revisions of how they view Butker, but there wasn’t a single Chiefs fan completely comfortable with him kicking any field goals this season. Sure, he stepped up when it mattered, but let’s not get ahead of ourselves and act like other kickers would have missed those kicks somehow. Just because we remember the big misses doesn’t mean that the majority of kicks in big game situations like that aren’t going through the uprights. Most kickers should be pretty automatic. It’s their jobs.

To be fair when he was out our kicking game was a fiasco that cost us a game.

AdolfOliverBush 05-16-2023 11:36 AM

Anyone who remembers Lin Elliott knows KC could do much worse than a kicker who clinched the AFCCG and SB in a 2-week span.

RealSNR 05-16-2023 11:38 AM

I'm also not here to take a dump on pre-2022 Butker, but it should be noted that he's missed a lot of extra points in his career for being such a high percentage kicker.

If he gets his groove back, yeah, I don't care about those extra points and neither should anybody else, but he could certainly stand to do better.

raybec 4 05-16-2023 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16946548)
What in the blue hell is the Knights of Columbus?

They're real head breakers, true guineas.

Prison Bitch 05-16-2023 11:59 AM

The kicks he made bs Buff and cinci in the playoffs were not easy. The cinci one was into howling wind and it barely made it thru. Only about 5 kickers in the league prob can even attempt that one


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