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DJ's left nut 01-07-2025 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 17896267)
Henne saved the day leading a full complement of starters, its not even remotely comparable situations come on man

I think maybe he meant Gabbert?

Daniel and Gabbert went out there in similar year-end situations with backups and didn't completely poop on their shoes.

Chase Daniel is essentially the perfect backup QB. Calm, competent, coachable and unambitious. He's content holding clipboards and waiting for that last game of the season.

And he's going to show up and run the offense if/when he does.

Wentz showed the least of any of the backups we've had in a situation like this during the Reid era. He just didn't demonstrate a single positive trait on Sunday.

I'll say what I say about coaches -- I don't need a reason to fire one. I need a reason to KEEP one. And I didn't see any reasons to retain Wentz yesterday.

Coaches see more than I do so if they wanna keep him, so be it. But there was nothing positive to take away from that game.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-07-2025 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17896587)
I think maybe he meant Gabbert?

Daniel and Gabbert went out there in similar year-end situations with backups and didn't completely poop on their shoes.

Chase Daniel is essentially the perfect backup QB. Calm, competent, coachable and unambitious. He's content holding clipboards and waiting for that last game of the season.

And he's going to show up and run the offense if/when he does.

Wentz showed the least of any of the backups we've had in a situation like this during the Reid era. He just didn't demonstrate a single positive trait on Sunday.

I'll say what I say about coaches -- I don't need a reason to fire one. I need a reason to KEEP one. And I didn't see any reasons to retain Wentz yesterday.

Coaches see more than I do so if they wanna keep him, so be it. But there was nothing positive to take away from that game.

Gabbert was awful last year going against a backup opponent too, and that’s the difference.

Mahomes would not have won that game Sunday with the cast of characters we put out there AGAINST that particular opponent under those circumstances.

I still think we aren’t considering enough the impact that elbow shot had. Wentz was not nearly that inaccurate in the preseason and then looks like that? Doesn’t make any sense.

DJ's left nut 01-07-2025 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17896591)
Gabbert was awful last year going against a backup opponent too, and that’s the difference.

Mahomes would not have won that game Sunday with the cast of characters we put out there AGAINST that particular opponent under those circumstances.

I still think we aren’t considering enough the impact that elbow shot had. Wentz was not nearly that inaccurate in the preseason and then looks like that? Doesn’t make any sense.

Who says 'won'?

Nobody expects Wentz to win that game.

Show me ANYTHING.

He just didn't.

smithandrew051 01-07-2025 09:39 AM

Good, bad, or whatever it is crazy that somewhat recently Carson Wentz was an MVP contender and obvious franchise QB. Not For Long = NFL.

Another reason why I never believe in the next big thing at QB until he proves longevity and wins something of substance.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-07-2025 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17896597)
Who says 'won'?

Nobody expects Wentz to win that game.

Show me ANYTHING.

He just didn't.

He didn’t, but I don’t think it’s illogical to say he was unintentionally sabotaged.

Besides the personnel, that game plan was dog shit. There was no game plan. Preseason esque.

I think it’s a throwaway ball game on every level. Even for Denver.

LagunaSWana 01-07-2025 10:05 AM

Have we re-signed this POS yet?

seamonster 01-07-2025 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17896520)
Uh, yeah if he would stay around for a couple years I'd sign him today.

Wentz is a good player and with Andy and Co. I don't think it's a question that he'd be successful here in a spot start or even a long stretch if Pat got hurt.

Watched Wentz for years and he looks like a bad player. The NFL's not amateur youth sports. Players are expected to execute at a high level in stressful environments and everything I've seen (and I've seen a lot) shows that Wentz is fully incapable of doing this. He has wild mental breakdowns during games and takes heinious sacks or throws checkdowns that I doubt even Matt Castle would consider (-4 yard loss to Noah Gray). Once or twice a game he'll make a mechanically perfect elite throw that only a handful of people on earth can make, but that's surrounded by a raggidy ass jagged sea of awful play. And I'm sorry, in 2024 you've got to be able to run the ball some as a QB. Defenses leave entire sides of the field unguarded and flood the area of the field they know the play's going too and carson still takes woeful sacks when he could scramble for 8+ yards. He needs tijunana ibogaine or something. Not a good pickup by the Chiefs. I would have preferred a stable vet that's had years of level-headed play over the jagged ups and downs of Carson Wentz.

Rainbarrel 01-07-2025 10:29 AM

Would a home game been different. Probably, a little

threebag 01-07-2025 10:44 AM

I didn’t watch much of the game.

htismaqe 01-07-2025 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by seamonster (Post 17896651)
Watched Wentz for years and he looks like a bad player. The NFL's not amateur youth sports. Players are expected to execute at a high level in stressful environments and everything I've seen (and I've seen a lot) shows that Wentz is fully incapable of doing this. He has wild mental breakdowns during games and takes heinious sacks or throws checkdowns that I doubt even Matt Castle would consider (-4 yard loss to Noah Gray). Once or twice a game he'll make a mechanically perfect elite throw that only a handful of people on earth can make, but that's surrounded by a raggidy ass jagged sea of awful play. And I'm sorry, in 2024 you've got to be able to run the ball some as a QB. Defenses leave entire sides of the field unguarded and flood the area of the field they know the play's going too and carson still takes woeful sacks when he could scramble for 8+ yards. He needs tijunana ibogaine or something. Not a good pickup by the Chiefs. I would have preferred a stable vet that's had years of level-headed play over the jagged ups and downs of Carson Wentz.

He hasn't been the same since the injuries. He's mentally broken, it's pretty obvious when you watch him play.

PAChiefsGuy 01-07-2025 10:51 AM

Man you guys are really overreacting to a meaningless game where Wentz was put in a terrible position.

He didn't play well, I admit, but who did? I don't think Cheifs gave a shit about this game.

Wentz is a capable backup otherwise Reid wouldn't have brought him here. He just had a bad game which is understandable given the circumstances

htismaqe 01-07-2025 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 17896680)
Man you guys are really overreacting to a meaningless game where Wentz was put in a terrible position.

He didn't play well, I admit, but who did? I don't think Cheifs gave a shit about this game.

Wentz is a capable backup otherwise Reid wouldn't have brought him here. He just had a bad game which is understandable given the circumstances

This isn't Chad Henne here. This is a former starting, high end QB that watched his team win a Super Bowl from the bench. He hasn't been the same since the injuries. Wentz was shot long before he got here.

PAChiefsGuy 01-07-2025 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17896682)
This isn't Chad Henne here. This is a former starting, high end QB that watched his team win a Super Bowl from the bench. He hasn't been the same since the injuries. Wentz was shot long before he got here.

Well then Reid and Veach made a bad decision but given their history especially at that position I'm willing to give them the benefit of doubt. Especially since it was just one meaningless game.

You aren't - that's fine.

kstater 01-07-2025 11:22 AM

I think there's also a very good chance that anything more than a cursory look at game film happened. Was 0 reason to put in to scouting and preparing for that game and not potential opponents.

And while I didn't watch the game, possible also could have tried different looks to see how Denver would respond.

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htismaqe 01-07-2025 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 17896711)
Well then Reid and Veach made a bad decision but given their history especially at that position I'm willing to give them the benefit of doubt. Especially since it was just one meaningless game.

You aren't - that's fine.

It has nothing really to do with the Denver game. He's been broken for a while, it's pretty obvious.


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