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DRU 09-11-2004 08:22 PM
Ok, well the 30" is $1699, but the 27" is $1299.99. I work at Deal Express too. We sell a shit ton of Plasmas and LCD tvs and this has just as good a picture as any I've seen...Sharp, Panasonic, Viewsonic, etc.

unlurking 09-11-2004 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ENDelt260
Bingo. I don't understand this focus on the service cost. The hit is the hardware.

And, for me personally, an added cost is abandoning TiVo-style viewing.

Hell, when I record things on my TiVo, I record them at the highest compression/lowest quality. So, the picture is significantly, noticeably, worse than what is being delivered by digi cable to begin with. I think it's clear where my priorities on.

When HD TV's are more popular, and have come down in price to something reasonable. And more channels are broadcasting in HD than aren't. And a good DVR is HD compatible. Then, I'll jump on. Until that happens, it's just a novelty. A ridiculously goddammed expensive novelty.
A Lamborghini may be classified as a ridiculously god-damned expensive novelty as well, but if I had the $$$$ for it, I'd by it.

For me, I was buying a new big screen at the time, and it was a very minimal cost extra.

DRU 09-11-2004 08:24 PM
That's the thing too...of course you wouldn't go buy a brand new expensive TV simply for HD. But you've got a TV with HD...or if you're getting one anyway...because you want the TV...then yeah, HD is well worth the money and a much better picture. In fact...if you're not gonna use the HD...I think you're wasting your money on the TV to not even use it to its fullest.

Craash 09-11-2004 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Skip Towne
And expect another $300 for the Directv receiver. The standard one is free. The HD setup is rapidly getting cheaper and cheaper. They have already milked the fools and are now having to get real as people realize it isn't all that great.
This is why I'm with TWC. No price difference between the HD Box and the normal box.

Skip, I'm just amazed. I know we've talked in past about HD and Directv in general, and you've always seemed level headed and reasonable. I'm not questioning the cost, but to say it "isn't all that great" just seems like an off the wall statement. It makes me question if you've seen a full bandwidth HDTV stream on proper equipment during one of your handfull of HDTV Dish installs.

unlurking 09-11-2004 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Skip Towne
And expect another $300 for the Directv receiver. The standard one is free. The HD setup is rapidly getting cheaper and cheaper. They have already milked the fools and are now having to get real as people realize it isn't all that great.
Well since you're calling me a fool, I guess all just call you the old fart who can't see without his glasses and has to close the shades to keep the bald form glaring on his TV.

:(

How'd you find the Intarweb?!

Great - grandson buy you a 'puter?

"Damn those HDD's over 1.5GB are such a waste a money ya stupid fool dangnabit yungsters!!! Why don't you go back to usin' 5 1/4's?!?!"

Craash 09-11-2004 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ENDelt260
That's good to hear.

All the same... my current TV is working a-okay. I can't justify dropping $700 on a brand new TV for 8 new channels with a prettier picture and no TiVo functionality.

OTOH, driving over to my buddy's house to watch football on his HD big screen will cost me a few minutes travel time, and maybe a twelver. THAT'S a cost for HD I'm willing to pay.

If you were closer to KC, I'd provide the HDTV, the leather seating, the beer, and the flipping weaner dog for your lap. Just leave my wife alone. ROFL

Seriously, if you're ever up this way, look me up. If I can't convince you, you can take the leftover beer home.

As far as the TIVO, it would still work just the same as it does now. No lost functionality (you can't record HDTV now) no additional functionality.

unlurking 09-11-2004 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by ENDelt260
If I was in the market for a big screen right now, I'd get a HDTV, too. It'd be stupid not to.

That said, I'm not in the market for a new TV right now. And the benefits of HD don't come close to the costs, so I won't be running to Circuit City any time soon.
I can understand that. I really want a new truck, but at the moment, I can't really justify it. But when I do go get a new one, it will definitely have all the bells and whistles!

:D

Craash 09-11-2004 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ENDelt260
I never did.

I wasn't pointing that one at you. :-) Again, I totally understand your position.

unlurking 09-11-2004 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ENDelt260
If a Lamborghini could only drive in a 3 block radius of your house and you still had to drive your Chevy everywhere else, you'd have a solid comparison.
Oh, well I guess to me it is a solid comparison because the lambo would be a "weekend" vehicle!

:D

EDIT: I guess since most my TV watching occurs on a 20" (kitchen and home office) or 27" (bedroom) non-HD, it is a VERY solid comparison.

Craash 09-11-2004 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ENDelt260
Oh, I understand my TiVo will still work the same on the non-HD channels. My point is, then I have to choose: pretty picture, or TiVo style viewing. I prefer TiVo style viewing.

And here, folks, is the real issue. People have different preferences. For some, picture quality is not a top issue. They use the highest compression setting on the TIVO for more content and are totally happy with it. Myself, I actually moved my Series 1 tivo (with two 250GB drives installed) upstairs into the spare bedroom because I couldn't stand the lose of picture quality.

Neither is right, neither is wrong. My issue is that ISN'T what this thread was supposed to be about.

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500GB Tivo for sale.

morphius 09-11-2004 08:38 PM
I can see someone saying that HDTV isn't worth the money, but damn, the picture not being that different? The only thing I can think of for Skip saying what he is, is that people have to pay out the butt to upgrade their Sat and Box to be able to handle HDTV, so they are already unhappy.

Oh well, I'm not going to get into this whole mess again if I can help it.

Phobia 09-11-2004 08:40 PM
Craash,
First Down Elvis and I may require some convincing. We think HDTV is complete garbage. We'll be over tomorrow night for the game. Don't buy any brews. We'll bring enough for all of us. Please PM your address and phone number.

Craash 09-11-2004 08:42 PM
Phob,

You'd just bring me down.

Phobia 09-11-2004 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Craash
Phob,

You'd just bring me down.
I knew it. You're worried your wife would be all over me. I guess I can't blame you.

Skip Towne 09-11-2004 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by unlurking
Well since you're calling me a fool, I guess all just call you the old fart who can't see without his glasses and has to close the shades to keep the bald form glaring on his TV.

:(

How'd you find the Intarweb?!

Great - grandson buy you a 'puter?

"Damn those HDD's over 1.5GB are such a waste a money ya stupid fool dangnabit yungsters!!! Why don't you go back to usin' 5 1/4's?!?!"
Hey, you don't spell very well. Bald form? I guess "all just call you... How can you expect me to take you seriously? You're trying to be funny but are exposing your ignorance. And yes, you got ****ed.


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