i dont understand how a 300 lb man could put up with that

just punch him in the mouth. Theres no way that Ritchie Icognito is the toughest man to walk to the planet.

this is like when Jon Rauch was bullying Matt Harvey on the Mets, and Rauch is like 6'7 and Matt Harvey finally had a enough and challenged him to a fight, Raunch turned into a pussy and the team eventually cut him.

I don't see how Martin's teammates don't come to his defense. A player like Incognito on the Chiefs would get cut down to size in a ****in heartbeat. Or straight up cut.

Hard to say without knowing the extent of the threats, especially considering some were made to his family.


Not that I would have reacted in a similar manner as Martin but it isn't outside the realm of reasoning.

And if Martin retaliates......then Incognito can just go to the front office and claim assault. Plus Martin is then labeled as a trouble maker.

They were saying on nfl network the nfl is looking if this could be considered a hate crime. If true, they need to investigate everyone in just about every locker room.

This is Incognito's 4th year on the 'Fins.... he's probably the more popular/respected guy (despite his history of shithead behavior).

The real question in this whole mess is, did Incognito call Martin's mom a whore?

It wasn't actually even to him. He must be just searching his name. I didn't use his actual twitter name. I tweeted.

"Sources say Richie Incognito will have to spend a Saturday in a room with a geek, a prep, a stoner, and Ally Sheedy."

Now that I think of it it's possible my account said he favorited it, and he may have then unfavorited it. I just looked quick and tapped on the message, which brought me to his acct.
But it did say he interacted with the tweet somehow.
If I had known it was him I would have looked closer at the initial message.

Martin needs Shaun Smith as his mentor

I think that's actually the root of the bullying.

Im pretty sure if vermeil were here and told Martin it was time to take his diapers off and be a big boy he would be in a corner somewhere in fetal position sucking his thumb. Carl Peterson would have told this pussy to stfd and stfu, then made him sign a 10 year contract for min that included buying him and the rest of the team meals at dennys.

LMAO Schefter wants him to burn.

fight fire with fire

LMAO

Just got it. You're right. Martin might already know a thing or two about grabbing balls

After Aaron Hernandez, you can't be too sure who you're dealing with on NFL players. And there's a Pouncey on the Miami offensive line, so the distance to Hernandez is small if Pouncey was part of the bullying group.

I thought the exact same thing. Scheffter aint having it!! LMAO

Well it's easy to see where Jr. got it. That's just a string of some bad DNA.

Incognito looks like the kid in a movie that you want to see busted up before it ends.

Some people just look like raging dickheads and he certainly fits that description.

wut

He's melting down.

I hate Incognito, and it's pretty rare for me to say I hate a player on another team. That guy, however is obviously just a complete a-hole and a true dirty player. It says alot when not just one, but TWO different guys on other teams are fined/suspended for punching a player.

How often do you see anyone in the NFL take a swing at another guy? Basically never. but Incognito is the kind of guy that you just really want to f'n kill.

He's saying he's on Incognito's side in this matter.

Awesome. He's a FA after this year. Good luck landing on a new team...

haha he's on tilt

He's got all of America against him. Good luck Mr. Incognito, your life is over.

Cant see the twitter pic from work, what is it?

All kinds of stuff happening, spiraling out of control right before our eyes

Yep I agree. He has that "Please lay a baseball bat upside my head" look.

Also, any grown adult male that would go by Richie has about a 99.9% chance of being a douche. Rich, Richard sure, but RICHIE?

Might have felt that if he got in a fight as a rookie, it could lose him trust among teammates and coaches.
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ah the ole Jon Baldwin theory put to test

this would be a bigger deal if an o-line needed to use teamwork.

might of thought he would lose his million dollar job of a lifetime

maybe he's just not a fighter


this is not about Martin, it's about Cognito


People shouldn't look to blame the victim

I'm surprised he lasted as long as he did in the NFL. ****ing jackass.

I would find it beyond funny if these assholes thought I would pay for a 30 k meal...or even a 1 k meal. I'd pay my portion and then tell the staff at "where ever" that the need to collect from everyone else.

Martin has done absolutely nothing wrong here but take a stand. It's very couragous.

Yep. I have no idea why any dumbass would feel obligated to do this.

I was going to say this as well.

Just because a guy is a football player doesn't mean he's a boxer or a nasty, angry human being.

Football is a sport in which most guys play by the rules. They're not "gladiators" trying to kill each other. While players throw around words like "battle" and "fight", etc. and so on, it's not in a literal context.

Peer pressure is a strong drug, especially for young kids.

That said, the coaching staff and front office are to blame for allowing that type of culture to exist.

I met an adult many years back in a group setting, and he had some normal name on his name tag. I can't remember what it was - Tom or James or something. When he introduced himself to the group, he said, "Yeah, this is my given name, but I've always gone by Brewster. So just call me Brewster."

Tip of the day: you don't have to keep using the nickname you were given when you were two years old.

Apologies to anyone named Brewster on the board.

Seau did that shit to Leaf...but when Leaf refused to do it...supposedly Seau stole his credit card and did it anyway. Oh my...if he had done that shit to me...well....enjoy the Federal charges.

It wasn't Seau's fault CTE made him do it.

Kobe does it all the time to the scrubs on the Lakers roster (the picking up the tab thing)

I'd never heard that story, but that's pretty amazing.

And then Seau and Rodney Harrison were the two guys who talked about intentionally injuring him in practice "to help the team". What a bunch of kleenex wads.

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Someone told the story on the radio today. Supposedly Leaf complained to the organization about Seau stealing his card and it got back to Seau Leaf ratted him out so he laid Leaf out in practice. The entire Charger roster gave Seau an ovation.

Incognito should be a Buc. No way he helps up a opposing player. Kinslow II has some Buc fatigues for the soldier.

Wow, that's sad.

I may have to stop making fun of Leaf and start making fun of Seau. I knew he was kind of an idiot on the field ("Woohoo! Look at me! I made a tackle five yards downfield on 3rd and 3!"), but I didn't realize he a criminal and a bully.

Okay, let's start. Why did Junior Seau cross the road? To steal a credit card.

I don't think it's right that douchebags like Pioli can go on national TV and basically publicly divulge an interview with a potential employee either. If any "normal" employer did that shit you'd have DOL all over your azz and probably civil suits as well.

It is going to be really interesting to see what the player's union does with this case.

DT

That was me dude.

I'm not on incognito's side at all. He is an asshole and bully. But damn a grown man just let it happen. Teamates said it isn't anything that doesn't happen around the nfl, he just couldn't handle it mentally.

A story that makes Ryan Leaf a sympathetic character? Man, I'm going to have to reassess my entire worldview.

so maybe Karma did work it out in the end.

I would of brought a bat to the locker room and knocked the **** out of Seau in front of the whole team.

"Anyone else want to steal my shit?"




I'm not the most rational guy when i'm pissed.

Not me...I just would have called the FBI. Let them take care of it. In fact if Leaf had done that...maybe it would have saved Seau from taking his own life and abandoning his family.

For what it's worth -- from a Tedy Bruschi fan Q&A posted today. An interesting insight from a former player.


http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/boston/chat/_/id/49338

To step into oncoming traffic in an attempt to kill himself.

when I was a Freshman (or maybe Sophomore) during 2-a-days in football, we came in for our break/lunch etc. I grabbed my small cooler and Gatorade and set it on the concrete 'bench' while I went to put up my pads and helmet.

I returned to find both of them missing. there were 4 or 5 Seniors sitting there, with shit eating grins etc. I asked them "Hey, where's my lunch"? They all chuckled like girls and played dumb. I asked again and got some dumbass sarcastic answer.

I said "ok, I get it. I'm going to go take a leak, and if my shit isn't back when I get back, *sort of a bit of a pause and I looked at each one individually*, I'm kicking the shit out of you (as I pointed). The guy went from grinning like a bitch to sort of a "hey....wait a minute. that wasn't me" look on his face. It was glorious.

I came back, and my stuff was returned and they were gone. I was fully prepared to at least get a solid, unsuspecting shot on one of them, even if it meant taking lumps in return.

Yep...it's prison rules. Take that shit just once and you're on the hook.

pretty much how I figured it, when it happened.

I was one of the kids you were yelling at. I was afraid you'd kick my ass.
I'm sorry man.

no problem; though I did notice a bite was taken out of my bologna sammich . I know it was you.

Show me mercy I beg of you.

I'm not a playa, I just ocelot.

I played RG in high school my junior year and the QB was a ****ing prick to me since day one. He'd drop back in practice and at the end of the play if he didn't throw it.....he'd chuck it at the back of my head. First game of the season.....first play.....I let my guy go untouched and he absolutely drilled our QB. I got pulled....but he never bothered me again.

:LOL: Beautiful.

While that's a funny story and I'm glad he stopped bothering you, I disagree with the way you handled the situation. I was the defensive captain of my high school team and if I or either of the other two captains would have caught a player tanking a play on purpose for personal reasons, there would have been repercussions.

What an incredible asshole, cant wait to see him get the hammer.

And **** the fins for allowing it, i hope they all get burned for it.

LMAO petty revenge is best revenge.

There would have been repercussions, like... you would have told the coaches and they would have pulled Pestilence?

To me, that's a giant douchebag move if you're a team captain on a high school team and you have stuff beyond that level of accountability. The RG isn't a team player? Well neither is the ****head of a QB, and there's probably not much the team captains would have done there to stop the tard from chucking the ball at the guy's head in practice.

I did high school football my freshman year but quit after that because of locker room garbage what you're talking about. We're a high school team, not a BCS college team or a professional team. Save your status as a team captain for a time when it actually matters.

I was 16. Football was not going to be my career. I would have given zero ****s.

I presumed that he would have threatened his family and then made him pay for a trip to Vegas.

Does anyone know Richie I. side of the story? Or is Martin's the only side coming out in the media?

Ordered a Code Red, duh.

Outside of the texts and VMs that have been released? Or maybe his dads post on the Dolphin Message Board?

**** yeah.LMAO

Richie was at choir practice, robbing the choir members.

In fairness, if you're accused of doing stuff like this, it's hard to come out with your side of the story if it's really just, "No, I wasn't doing this." There's not much of a story.

I guess Incognito could say something like, "Yeah, we were razzing him, but we razz everybody." When the guy snaps and leave the team and then turns over incriminating texts and voice mails, though, it lends the appearance that perhaps you should have backed off.

I mean, was J. Martin sending Richie any texts and leaving VM's? Was Richie the only one doing it? Has anyone actually heard the VM's or just what was reported?

Thier is always two sides to every story and it seems we are only hearing one side right now.

Martin turned the VMs over to the Dolphins and NFLPA. So yeah....I'm going to assume they've heard them.

I agree, and think Richie probably is scum, but there is two sides to every story.