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The Broncos got 2 return scores and lost. 2.

Stick your rationalizations up your mother's ass.

No, it's not a good thing to lose him on defense. No, your roster does not have a 3 year window. Your rosters has a year-to-year window. When Manning retires, that window is ****ing boarded shut.

He's a piece of shit bet welcher as well.

ROFL but but but they got Brock?

Ya 2 return scores or it's a blowout.

Soft team with a soft QB in cold weather against a tough, battle tested, veteran team. Yeah, I called that shit.

KnowMo should be banned for a year starting today for his welching.

Ya especially with ray Lewis playing it like a fiddle announcing his retirement

The only way that happens is if he gets in a pissing match with Phobia

Unlike Hootie, KnowMo actually wants to keep posting here so that won't happen.

He just got cut ROFLROFL

That is fantastic news.

I remember Hef and Slowmo pimping him something fierce last offseason ROFL HARD HITTA!!!!!

Link, bro! ;)
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...acker-joe-mays

Classic LMAO

Yup, now he sucks. Good riddance LMAO

**** off, troll

They are in trouble without Poor Man's DT for AT LEAST a quarter of the season

Uh, maybe you should link to me pimping him hard. I remember saying that he was a weak link in the defense, but still better than the murderer you guys had at the time.

I think you mean "at most."

Yeah, 1-3 is a real possibility for their first 4 games

I remember similar comments back after the '98 season... something how Denver would be in the cellar for a decade or more as the other teams in the division would take ownership.

Every team has issues ... Denver's rolling with a few right now, whatever happens will happen. We'll see how it goes.

Uh, we won the division once in the 12 years after Elway retired. That's the same as the Seahawks. The Raiders won it 3 times, the Chargers 5 times, and the Chiefs twice.

Whoever said that may have had a point.

To be fair, the Broncos didn't really have a legit SB shot until last year after that. Not that we have any room to throw that stone.

I predicted a Super Bowl win for KC last year, but losing Hali for one game obviously destroyed our season. And that was just one game.

LMAO That is fantastic.

Hef was pimping either Mays or Woodyard last season. I think it was Woodyard but whichever it was, he had him balls deep, that's for sure..

Also, if I remember right, the Broncos went to the AFC Championship game in 05 didn't they? With ol Jake the snake Plummer.

Seriously, was it that hard to figure out what I was talking about? He was benched halfway through the season, and his only memorable moment was removing a part of Matt Schaub's head.

Yeah, I actually watched that happen live. As my next post stated, though, I wasn't quite sure which one of your LBs you were pimping. I was leaning toward Woodyard but thought it might have been Mays.

He only took the tip from Mays.

With the amount of saliva KnowMo leaves around this place, I have a hard time remembering who on your team is Hall of Fame bound or just a perennial Pro Bowler.

We are talking about the same guys that thought Jamaal Williams, Justin Bannan, and Jarvis Green were the best 3-4 defensive line of All-Time.

It sucks to see a potential legend get into this mess, Chiefs fan or not. He did post up a bunch of dumb pictures of piles of cash and shit like that. I don't know what to think of some of these guys getting into trouble at times.

So... what you're saying is...... the Donks have been the worst team in the Division since Horseface went to pasture?

Did I miss something where the Broncos were a successful franchise in the 2000s?

The absolute only reason Denver is a contender is Manning.

I talked about Mays some last off season, but I've never seen him as anything more than a 2 down run stopper.

On the other hand, I do have a deep and abiding love for Mr. Woodyard.

The only STAT BREAKDOWN OF THE AFC WEST that matters, since 1998:

Superbowls Won

Chargers 0
Chiefs 0
Donkeys 0
reeruns 0


The scientific term for this division in this time frame is reerunus Crapshitsky Divisionidiotus...

I hate you.....

Not counting 2011 or 2012, and only in terms of winning the division, sure. In terms of making the playoffs, KC, Oakland and Denver are all tied at 3 berths. Including the last 2 seasons as well, we're tied with SD at 5 since Elway retired.

Also, we've only finished last twice. Oakland and SD have finished last 4 times, and KC has finished last 5 times since then.

So no, KC has a slight lead over Oakland for the worst AFCW team since Elway retired.

Depends on the offense. If they can put up numbers and keep the D off the field they have a chance. No question not having Von is a killer blow, Del Rio's whole scheme is built around that position.

It really depends on how you measure the success of a team. None of them won a SB title, so they all failed there. I brought up the comments about what life would be like after Elway to point out that the rest of the division didn't light the world on fire and Denver didn't suck for a decade.

Since 1999...

# of seasons with more than 10 wins
Broncos = 5
Chargers = 4
Chiefs = 3
Raiders = 3

# of winning seasons - GREATER than .500
Broncos = 7
Chargers = 6
Chiefs = 5
Raiders = 3

# of playoff appearances
Broncos = 6
Chargers = 5
Chiefs = 3
Raiders = 3

Playoff Record
Raiders = 4-3 (2 AFC Title games, 1 AFC Title win, 1 SB loss)
Chargers = 3-5 (1 AFC Title game, a loss)
Broncos = 2-6 (1 AFC Title game, a loss)
Chiefs = 0-3

So, again... if the wheels hadn't flown off the Raiders after the 2002 season (they haven't been better than 8-8 since), they could lay claim to being the most dominant team.

The rest of the division didn't exactly jump up and leave the Broncos in the dust after #7 retired. That was my only point. The AFCW has really been fairly pedestrian for the last decade... that's very unfortunate and hasn't been a lot of fun to watch, compared to the 80s/90s.

The Raiders haven't been a factor for a decade now, double that for the Chiefs. Bring on 2013! :evil:

Go kill yourself, Knowmo. You don't deserve to be alive, you bet-welching ****tard

Don't hold back, express your feelingsLMAO Give the kid a break, at least he's consistent and talks football.

I'd like to make another bet with you. I enjoyed our last one.

Lol come on. How do you not like Knowmo? He is great to have around for laughs, the dude is so unintentionally funny it is great. He is like the Borat of the board.

Aren't you one of those guys who gives Clay huge shit for "welching" on a bet so many years ago, when he wasn't really welching at all?

THIS, my friend, is a welch. A huge fat ****ing singing welch.

I'm pretty down on the Chiefs this year. I'm anticipating 6-10 or 7-9, so there isn't much that I'm passionate about. I don't think I give enough of a shit to make a bet.

Besides, I've already got the Luke Joeckel bet going on with Direckshun.

I give Draven shit for some things but not that, not sure I even remember it. I'm not down with welching but the kid is one of my own, what am I gonna do? Don't blame you for your stance though.

Huh. This place is more fun for me with a lot of irrational optimism.

Maybe I'll go read some Sac posts.

I find it hard to believe that the Broncos will miss him the first four weeks. If I were him I'd just drop the appeal and people will likely forget about it. It has the potential to get more out in the press if it's drawn out obviously. I say 3-1, at worst 2-2 for them after the first month of the season.

It's already out there. Gotta do the appeal. Every game missed is a check missed isn't it?

I think that's the case, not sure though. Yeah either way it'll go away anyway. I'm sure we'll likely see a new show on ESPN called Keeping Up with Aaron Hernandez in the near future so that will be that lol.

Let's get creative, then.

Colquitt vs. Colquitt. I have no idea what amalgamation of stats are required to determine the best punter, but if there's a method for it, I'm down.

Dustin is better than Britton. Bet on it?

There's an Eagles blogger named Bob Grotz who just did a piece on Jason Kelce. I feel like I'm in bizzarro land.

Colquitt vs Colquitt. Ramshambo.

Hah! No doubt. Now there's a dumb **** with real world problems and he also brought that shit on himself.

Yeah that's bigger than this no doubt. Hopefully the ****er gets his in jail.

I'm down.

Average + Percent inside 20?

Yeah I'm still not clear on the facts of that case but sounds like home boy is going from the penthouse to the outhouse.

I feel like this shafts me pretty hard, since Alex Smith will 3-and-out and put the Chiefs in much shittier field position than will Manning. The percentage of kicks inside the 20 totally favors Britton by a large margin, since he'll be kicking far less often and in much easier spots.

Also 1/2 his game at Invesco in the thin air? I wouldn't touch it.

Dustin, with Cassel and Quinn, would have won vs Britton with Manning last season.

Britton with Tebow would have won in 2011.

Hmm... maybe these aren't great terms for me.

Miller officially suspended for 4 games :thumb:

Just average net yards, then?

Cheating piece of shit :clap:

Link? I can't find anything official.

610 is reporting it

You're linking to another forum?

Cannot be true until at least 1 twitter link reports it...

Google is your friend

That's a pretty good guess.

Google has nothing to say on the subject at the moment.

ROFL. Anything worse than 3-1 would be an epic fail.

Baltimore's better. Giants should win that game too.

You're 2-2 at best.

Didn't Von D say that the truth would come out? I guess the TRUTH did not set him free.

So 2nd time cheater?

Nothing official

Many of you keep calling him a cheater. You realize this is for recreational drugs - not performance enhancers - right? And that Tamba was suspended for the same kind of issue?

So, Von isn't very important to your team?

Is that what you are saying?

I don't think that matters to them.

Archie will give him a stern snear for awhile. Pretend to care...