Some of you KC fans would complain if you were hung with a new rope

aaron rodgers is a horrible nfl qb. too small. dont want.

Nothing wrong at all with those moves

I take the same idea with Pederson as I'm taking with a first round QB.

Yeah, he doesnt' have a track record. But you gotta take a chance, and to be honest, if Reid likes him enough to be the OC, I'll take his word for it.

When Reid first became a HC he hired a lot of young assistants. Some of them became head coaches.

this. dude knows what hes doing.

A fair point, but let's not pretend this isn't the SAME Andy Reid who thought Juan Castillo could be a defensive coordinator.

He's not immune to making bad decisions.

Yup :clap:

Too fat. /omaha

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Dick's at it again

so he's human?

Yeah, that is true.


But I'm not gonna be jaded based on the previous regime and Andy's other moves that, a normal person like Reid, would learn from.


Until he gives me reason here in KC, I'm giving him the chance to impress or depress.

Ive heard that was more of Castillo's idea and talked andy into. Forget where I heard it but who knows. Yes he has flaws. No doubt but so do alot of coaches. Still love the hire

So is Scott Pioli.
Did that excuse ever wash for him?
Okay then.

Bad choices have consequences.
That's all I'm saying. This is an important hire.

It's not unreasonable for me to raise an eyebrow about whether or not Doug Pederson is qualified for this job. The guy's never coordinated at any level. No one's burned Andy Reid at the stake. I'm just thinking about whether or not he's the right guy for the job.

I love how Pissoli's name is a curse word on the forum. hahahaha

It would be funny if he got something right for once.

That's all I'm pointing out here.
That he's made head-scratching decisions in the past.
This one, if true, would seem to fall into that category.

But I'm willing to reserve judgment and see how this plays out.

Eh, I think you're overblowing this a little bit.


Castillo from OL coach to DC was a bad decision. Pederson from QB coach to OC, is kind of the natural evolution of offensive coaches.

Ya unlike Sirianni from quality control to WRs coach

The bone I'm picking is with inexperience in the role he'd be hired for.
It's not that he went from one side of the ball to the other.
The issue is not having had experience coordinating a defense.
He wasn't qualified because he didn't have that kind of experience.
Same thing with Pederson.

You can honestly say that you're in no way concerned about Pederson's lack of coordinator experience at ANY level?

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Former Eagles OL coach/DC Juan Castillo interviewing with the Cardinals. Would imagine its for the OL spot vacated by Russ Grimm

Getting Childress in any manner is huge. It's always best to have as many respectable coaches on your staff as possible.

Childress is going to help Reid with the QB in some fashion. I can guarantee you that.

Concern? Yeah I guess a little. Although I think we all still have residual feelings from the previous regime's ineptness.

But experience isn't everything. Daboll had experience. Same with Bill Muir.

Another fair point. Experience is valuable when it's produced success.
I'd prefer a guy with experience and some level of past success.
So push come to shove, gimme Chilly at OC.

Yeah, I'd prefer experience, but it isn't the end all be all.

Kind of the same argument with the good ole boys NFL. Guys get jobs based on who they are, not really what they bring to the table.

I would be concerned, but with Childress here to tutor him and give him advice, I think he will be fine. I do not think that Childress or Reid for that matter are going to let the offense get off track.

filter evasion!!! BAN HIM!

As of Monday, every indication I was given is that Juan Castillo was coming here.

It's crazy that the Cardinals would basically have a staff waiting for next HC. That has to impact who wants that job.

This.

I don't understand why the Cardinals are doing this without a HC. Makes no sense.

Lol, if Haley does go there *snicker* it'll give his ball washers more excuses.

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That was a quick backpedal. :shake:

The only way to get experience is to get it. Andy Reid is as veteran of leadership as you can hope for, and having another strong former OC and HC on the offensive team would help tremendously.

I'm not sweating it at all. I am just hoping that whoever coordinates this offense has to deal with a rookie QB. :thumb:

WAY more concerned about our defensive staff.

What about Dorsey?

Had a 8 hour meeting with the Chiefs.

Haha damn reid ferrin and his BS hype

**** WPI

"He's going to be the OC" "Wait Assistant Head Coach" "Wait Senior Offensive Assistant"

@ryanscotthall: Looking like Pederson may become the OC and Childress will simply be a staff member. My apologies for the conjecture on his title. #Chiefs

Ha, conjecture. Translation: I made a guess.

Jackoff. I said did you make Warpaint guys pay for this when you tweet it for free?

Eh. can't give him too much shit.

What about Dorsey
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TBG whats up with Dorsey?

Was told a half hour ago that Dorsey is going to happen. I don't know what the hold up is.

Props to Bad Guy for all his info.

I'd give you more rep if I could. Thanks a bunch.

Source didn't have 100% details correct regarding title, is how I read it.

meh.

Anyways - you, marty, and hopefully ryan will be fantastic insiders going forward.

nice to have this on the board again. Thanks for all the info!

My pleasure. Hope it continues.

Thanks man, could be contract crap.

should have our GM tomorrow
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Dorsey and Chiefs are still finalizing terms of the agreement. Should be wrapped up fairly soon.
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Bad Guy you rock

LMAO Bullshit.

Bring back Razor Ramon!!!

Awesome, you guys are great!
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Eh, I can't fault the guy. As I mentioned earlier in the thread, it seems like he's probably about on the level of TBG and Marty: a great source for credible rumors, but they're not going likely to be the first ones to hear the news when things become official.

bingo

TBG and Marty have just been ****ing money during this whole thing with respect to providing information.

Thanks, guys.

Pederson could just be looking ahead. Reid could be banking on us being real good, and Chilly being promoted again. Easier to groom Pederson as an OC than as a QB coach... Reid and Chilly will have heavy hands in the offense so it's not like be IS THE OC and will be lost dooming us to a terrible fate. I'm thinking he's more "OC in Training"

You're oversimplifying quite a bit in order to make your point.
There's quite a bit of difference switching from one side of the ball to another to coordinate and moving from a position on that side up to coordinator.
Yes, in either instance you lack experience, but as a position coach
moving to a same-side coordinator you've built up, for years, your own ideas, theories, ways to teach fundamentals, and ideals on how to do things on your side of the ball. In the vast majority of cases you've spent hundreds of nights lying in bed awake discussing with yourself, "when I run this [defense/offense]..."
I guarantee that as the OL coach, Castillo wasn't nearly as steeped in that mindset, and rather just thought he could do it pretty good, given time and players.

I know he did wonders with the Browns this year. They were right below the Chiefs in total Offense. woohoo

Childress did a good job with the Eagles for the most part. I think he would be a good addition.

Romeo won SB's as a DC, bring him back.

I don't think it's an oversimplification. I think you're looking at the wrong side of it. It should be noted that Castillo has coordinated a defense before. It was high school ball, but he did have that experience. Pederson has NONE. At any level.

Asked what the holdup with Dorsey was to my source.

Said it's not really a holdup, they are talking contract and both sides know it will get done.

Also pointed out that the Chiefs were only planning on interviewing Ray Farmer to satisfy the Rooney Rule and Dorsey.

I'll be shocked if this isn't announced Wednesday.

So the new word on the DC front is Horton?

It's really not a word. They are interested. Arizona holds all the cards.

I really wouldn't get my hopes up for it though. Source said it's not a strong chance.

:LOL:

Long week for you so far?

Cool thanks.


He'd be my first choice, TBH. I don't really understand strongholding guys like that, especially when you are bringing in a new coach.

Pretty much. Besides a sick pregnant wife, the paperwork work associated with my job, the students I teach being out of control this week and my old man being sick, I've hounded this poor bastard that gives me info.

Thankfully, he's a pretty understanding guy.

So what about Dorsey or Childress or any other news? Nothing? I WANT SOME NEWS!!!!!

No one gives a rat's ass what your dumb ass wants.

lol.

This isn't a particularly innovative comment, but sometimes it's the deadpan delivery that makes the humor.

I just meant you thinking tomorrow was WED. But damn, that is a rough week and then some. Godspeed, and thanks for the effort on the updates. Even when they don't work out, it's enjoyable to read.

LMAO

****. That's crazy that I can't even keep days straight.

Maybe instead of being pissed, we need to realize that these guys are coming in here, witht he mission to work together and win, not prove to everyone how good they are.

Haha, it happens.

Now you're just being silly.
HS ball?

You're right. Some experience is inferior to no experience.

In the terms you're laying out, it's akin to saying a kid who played Center in HS is probably a better Center prospect than Rodney Hudson was coming out of Florida State, because Hudson had only played Guard in college.

Yeah, but the former Center is now ALSO in the NFL.
Castillo's not a high school coordinator NOW. That was a malformed analogy.
Castillo still has a shit ton more coaching experience than Pederson.
Pederson has only been coaching ANYWHERE for three years.

Castillo's been coaching football since Pederson was PLAYING college ball.