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Tebow will NEVER be accurate. Steve Young has said as much. Young said Tebow "throws like a catapult". But I guess Urban Meyer would know better than a HoF QB who overcame huge inaccuracy problems early in his career to become a multiple league MVP and 2nd all time in QB passer rating. You Alex fans are always all about QB passer rating. I'm sure Meyer is as right about Alex as he is about Tebow. I.E., wrong. |
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Lombardi's are the only goal. Sucking is the way to improve if you have a great GM. If your owner/front office sucks, then 6-10 vs 10-6 every year doesn't make much difference. You are never going to feel the exhilaration of the super bowl chase or the euphoria of your team winning it all. I would rather multiple suckage years that give a good GM the chance to build a champion. |
This is what I'll say, while I don't think the front office sucks, I'm not a fan of Alex Smith but it appears everyone in the NFL hated all of the QB's in the draft.
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What the **** is up with these Alex Smith sycophant morons? Is it a mormon thing? I know he's a mormon from a Utah team, is that the connection? I can't understand why we are infested with these idiots and their excuse making, undying love for Alex Smiff. |
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He is accurate beneath the linebackers. Deep, not so much. Last year Alex had a career game against the Buffalo Bills. On the post game show, ex-WR Dwight Clark stated that Alex Smith has never been known as an accurate passer, but that he was deadly accurate against the Bills, hitting receivers in stride and putting the ball right on the hands of his receivers. Filled me with hope. Then came the Seahawks game where he could not even find a wide, wide open Randy Moss wildly waving his arms running the full length of the end zone while Frank Gore pointed him out to Alex. Still ended in an interception. Then came the 3-pick game vs the Giants. Good-bye downfield accuracy. Well, at least he had it for his career game vs. the Bills. Maybe I am wrong and Alex is Drew Brees, Jr. Just don't act surprised when you see his downfield accuracy lacking. Then cm |
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It would be more accurate to say he had a very high completion % on passes>20 yards. Accuracy? Or is that just because he refused to throw the rock unless his receiver had burned the defense and was wide open, where an errant throw couldn't possibly result in an INT. Where even if he was not particularly accurate, the receiver could still adjust and make the catch. Drew brees is accurate on passes over 20 yards. He will put the ball in a small window. Alex has a high completion % on passes over 20 yards because he is ultra cautious and very selective throwing passes over 20 yards. If the 20 yard receiver is covered on 3rd and 14, then he throws a 5 yard pass to Crabtree and hopes for 10 YAC. "Efficiency" is not the same thing as "accuracy". |
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What he's saying explains something..they draft an OT and a TE that can run...
Basically you use the running game to stay out of long yardage or quick hits to TE's and WR's...you have a dominant line that gives him all day so players can get wide open downfield...it all comes together. |
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All Alex needs is a wide receiver who can get complete separation on a few deep passes. With complete separation, no serious coverage at all, he will throw the ball accurately enough to complete the deep pass. Get a few of those going, and his short game is deady. The defenders who prevent that tend to box him in. |
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Ball placement makes so much difference in regards to timing. It's quite comical how bad our QB's were last year. |
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Yes, I can tell an asswipe like that to quit posting to me. Or are you one of those who said "**** the Chiefs" and followed Trent Green to Miami? I don't have any respect for a jackass who is ONLY a fan of a single sports player and has no loyalty to a team. It is one thing to change your loyalty to another team and it sticks and then that is your team. You have to be an 1st class dipshit to have loyalty to a ****ing player. A mediocre one at that. Who is he going to root for when Alex dies? Angel Alex? How many of you have groupie chased a single Chief's player to the exclusion of the team as a whole. How many NFL players have a Lombardi in their trophy case? Lasts I checked it was a TEAM trophy. Rings are for contibutors. Trophies are for the TEAM that wins a championship. I don't want anything to do with that guy. |
Pay no attention to Simplicity. He fists himself to old Neil Sedaka records nightly.
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Seriously, some of you guys are so ****ing twisted in your rage that you make no sense.
I am no huge Alex Smith fan. I don't think there was a better option available. I quite liked Trent Green, although I don't particularly think he threw deep much. These are not opinions worthy of derision.:spock: |
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What the **** is the connection? |
QB's are reached on every year. It says a lot about this years QB's the way they were drafted.
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But whatever, you go ahead with your blind rage and your 150,000 posts on a fan forum with your internet tough guy act. We used to actually be able to discuss football on this forum, and sometimes even have disagreements without "**** you's" all the time. |
Can we stop making threads about Axl until he starts sucking? His very name and likeness makes me sick unto vomiting.
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We won 2! 2 freaking games last season! Alex is a huge upgrade but what the hell are you expecting? To jump from 2 wins to 10 or 11? How often does this happen. Once n a blue moon! If we improve from 2 wins to 9-7 or 8-8 you have to consider that major major progress. A franchise who is finally on the Up an Up. IF we make the playoffs great, people must be out of their minds to be expecting Alex or any other QB for that matter to take this team to 11-or 12 wins. They are revamping the entire organization. A whole new everything. Andy Reid is placing his own players in the system. I mean we were the most Putride team on earth last season. God bless us if we win 8 or 9 games and start to actually look like a football team and not the bad news bears.
From Missouri but live on West Coast, I ve seen every game Alex has ever played including most of his highschool games. I am one of his supporters, but a Chiefs fan first an formost. Im telling you the kid can play ball, you will be pleasantly suprised. Alot of talent gets lost when guys are on these lost franchises. It wasnt only Alex who looked terrible out their over the years in the Bay Area. Many of those talented guys were playing bad. The organzation as a whole had no direction and no talent for a long time. Alex is very accurate and has improved even more since working with Tom House on his mechanics. Had a bit of a hitch after 2 shoulder surgeries. Hes also 25 lbs bigger which is why hes pretty durable these days. The concussion, cant be helped in this day an age of the NFL. Gonna miss time period, but as far as injuries go back an watch the tape on the hit he took from Rocky Bernard to blow his shoulder up. Then Nolan threw him under the bus when he came back early and he then needed another one. It truly is one of the reasons why he has so many fans and there is so much debate around him for 8 years. He is so dam tough and will do anything to help win. If anything you should feel great about at least having a team guy. I watch him play and then watch the chiefs and dream about having a smart QB who will make sure every player is in the right position. He will be a master of the offense and will not stand for another player not knowing his job. He will make some of the best audibles throughout the season, he reads defenses as well as any of the top 5 guys. I will not sit here and compare him to other players. Its just never gets anywhere. Watch the tape and you can see. As a matter of fact go back an watch tape of the last half of the 09 season when he really started improving. Also when they fired jimmy Raye and let mike johnson play to Alex's strengths. Man they had a bad coach in Singletary. If Alex improves us to 9 wins you have to be a fan! We won 2 F****N games! |
Interestingly in your monstrous I am a Chiefs fan post, do you post anything about the history of the Chiefs, just the 49ers. And your join date is March of 2013 when Smiff arrives.
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I just stated im a big supporter of Alex, Living here out west I have seen everygame hes played. I found this site when he was traded as I will always follow his career. What do you need to know about the history of the chiefs? We are talking about Alex Smith. All this comparison to Trent Green, no one has mentioned he took a very similar path as Smith. Green was a terrible terrible QB who couldnt even get on the field for 6 years. As a matter of fact he had to go to Canada to play. It wasnt until he got a great offensive coach Vermeil and Martz who believed he could play. They brought him to KC after they developed him in the offense in St.Louis. He was cut by the Chargers and even cut by the BC Lions. Smith is started to finally flourish because of stability with Harbaugh and the organization as a whole was getting better. Trent Green did the exact same thing. What more history do you need other than we havent been winning and Smith has, so im am good with him at QB. WINS matter, You can have your 300yrd games and 2-14 seasons. I will take WINS. Stats are for losers |
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20 wins 6 losses. The last 2 seasons. Includes PLAYOFFS! Remember those?. Perfectly acceptable. You are out of your mind. That is the stupidest stat ever. That is what happens when you play on poor teams we should know. The Niners were terrible terrible terrible for 10 seasons, before Harbaugh came along. |
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Want to see something interesting? Check these stats out.
Kyle Orton Career Stats... http://www.pro-football-reference.co...O/OrtoKy00.htm Alex Smith Career Stats... http://www.pro-football-reference.co...S/SmitAl03.htm Now I am not saying they are the same player at all. But it is striking how similar their numbers are. |
Oh Sweet Dick willie, you finally came up for air. You have been sucking on Genos willy so long thought we lost ya. Hey you should know, he got drafted by the Jets. Geno may not have mentioned that to ya whiles you away.
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OC. OC, OC. Hes an AWFUL head coach. There is no one questioning his ability as an OC though. |
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Trent Green's deep ball wasn't very accurate. He was smart about when he threw it though. |
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Is CP getting trolled by San Fran guys like we tried to troll Vikings' boards when they picked up Casshole?
There's no way there are actually this many Alex Smith fans out there, right? hah, good one guys! |
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We're talking about downfield passing in the 15-30 yard range. Green was a very good downfield passer. Alex Smith ain't. |
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I wonder if Trent Green's testicles are similar in size to Alex Smith's? I want to talk about this relevant information now. |
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So, how do you like him so far? Just preseason, but how is 7-8, 60+ yards and the only incompletion was a throw-away?
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why's everyone so worked up about how its only short passes. It's PRESEASON! he's not going to do that all season. And even if he throws short passes predominantly, he is really good at it and wins games with it. it's still a difficult skill to be accurate in the short and intermediate area.
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There's a big difference between a designed short passing game, and a QB checking down because they don't want to throw to the first option.
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We'll see, but my guess is the Chiefs have a plan for if a team tries to take that away from them. This looks like a team with a real offensive game plan and philosophy. Haven't seen that for a while. |
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No. ****, two of those plays depended on Sherman and Charles shedding tackles. |
The preseason 1 game argument goes both ways. Please stop using it.
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