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unlurking 02-21-2005 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ROYC75
WOW...... I took 40 minuteswhile at work this morning to read this ?

Dammit III ..........

You basically got the same damn advise from the planeteers as you got from me. ( outside of the pun ) Most of these guys had a good laugh at your expense. Some of them gave some very good advise to you , which sounds all to familiar. :harumph:

ROFL!!!

Oh, thanks for sending out the Planet memo on what to say!

;)

Sounds like a good kid. At least he's asking for advice now, rather than after they've eloped.

el borracho 02-21-2005 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Chico Diablo
Once you meet the person you love, there's no need to resist temptation because the temptation is gone. You don't have feelings for any other person but the one you love...it's as if you've gained so much strength to resist temptation that the temptation itself just gave up and went on to someone else.

This post is absolutely false.

FloridaChief 02-21-2005 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by el borracho
This post is absolutely false.

What can you expect? Taking maritial advice from Slayer is akin to taking birth control recommendations from the Pope...

chiefs4me 02-21-2005 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by lardass
Thats cool, I pretty much just felt like fighting with someone tonight and that was there. :)




:banghead: damn and I missed it......oh where was I at...ROFL

Brock 02-21-2005 10:11 AM

Here's my advice: Don't.

Phobia 02-21-2005 10:14 AM

This thread is evidence why I want to beat the crap out of every kid under the age of 20.

ROYC75 02-21-2005 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Phobia
This thread is evidence why I want to beat the crap out of every kid under the age of 20.


Ya wanna start with kids under 21 first....OK .

Slayer Diablo 02-21-2005 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by el borracho
This post is absolutely false.

In whatever definition you may have, that may be false; however, I believe that because love is the absolute strongest feeling you can have for another person and because I've experienced such happen, that deserves to be part of my definition. Now does this mean I'm going to go searching? Hell no. With the hand I'm dealt, all I can do is go into meaningless infatuations, and I can accept that...sort of.

el borracho 02-21-2005 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by FloridaChief
What can you expect? Taking maritial advice from Slayer is akin to taking birth control recommendations from the Pope...

Yeah, I am not surprised. I am just pointing it out in case Roy is actually reading this crap.

J Diddy 02-21-2005 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Chico Diablo
I'm sorry, but you proved my point for me. Seriously, although it's less than one percent, there are those in their mid-teens that understand the committment just as there are those in their 50's and even 60's or 70's that still don't understand it (or probably just don't care about it).


Dude you got no idea.

Just let this thread die, and go download some porn.

teedubya 02-21-2005 10:22 AM

Thread summary::

Hi Planet... I just got some stinky on my winkie... and I want to get married. Any advice?

YOU'RE AN IDIOT.

end of thread.

Slayer Diablo 02-21-2005 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by FloridaChief
What can you expect? Taking maritial advice from Slayer is akin to taking birth control recommendations from the Pope...

I've only said one thing in here that could even be considered marital advice, and that was more of common sense...for those not following along with this entire thread, that was toward the beginning when I told III that he needs to spend a couple months with her and realize that he's probably not gonna want to marry her after that plus some time to think about everything that had happened in that time frame. The other 27 or so posts were just discussion about beliefs and definitions.

Phobia 02-21-2005 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Chico Diablo
I've only said one thing in here that could even be considered marital advice, and that was more of common sense...for those not following along with this entire thread, that was toward the beginning when I told III that he needs to spend a couple months with her and realize that he's probably not gonna want to marry her after that plus some time to think about everything that had happened in that time frame. The other 27 or so posts were just discussion about beliefs and definitions.

The point was that you don't know shit. But that doesn't stop you from trying to kid yourself.

When you truly come to the realization that you don't know anything, it will be the greatest moment of enlightenment in your entire life.

J Diddy 02-21-2005 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Phobia
The point was that you don't know shit. But that doesn't stop you from trying to kid yourself.

When you truly come to the realization that you don't know anything, it will be the greatest moment of enlightenment in your entire life.


I think that time is around 25 years old for most.

Phobia 02-21-2005 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by J Diddy
I think that time is around 25 years old for most.

I think I was even older than that.

Slayer Diablo 02-21-2005 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Phobia
The point was that you don't know shit. But that doesn't stop you from trying to kid yourself.

When you truly come to the realization that you don't know anything, it will be the greatest moment of enlightenment in your entire life.

Uh, that's the first thing anyone has to know.... In fact, the first philosopher I've quoted on the Planet was Socrates when he stated "All that I know is that I know nothing." And that quote is true for every person since the beginning of time...once you and everyone else who decided to throw out insults to look good admit that, everyone can raise a glass of vodka/whisky/whatever and I'll give the toast--and you know that I'm making a real toast when the first line is "I don't like this anymore than you do, but raise your glasses anyway."

Oh and congratulations goes out to badgirl, lardass, chiefs4me, BrockLanders, and ROY75 for taking the high road.

badgirl 02-21-2005 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Chico Diablo
Uh, that's the first thing anyone has to know.... In fact, the first philosopher I've quoted on the Planet was Socrates when he stated "All that I know is that I know nothing." And that quote is true for every person since the beginning of time...once you and everyone else who decided to throw out insults to look good admit that, everyone can raise a glass of vodka/whisky/whatever and I'll give the toast--and you know that I'm making a real toast when the first line is "I don't like this anymore than you do, but raise your glasses anyway."

Oh and congratulations goes out to badgirl, lardass, chiefs4me, BrockLanders, and ROY75 for taking the high road.

The high road i never went anywhere, see, here I am.

ChiTown 02-21-2005 10:48 AM

I have a 6 year old (who's almost 7) and a 3 year old (who is a month away from turning 4). I'm damn near 40 myself. I got married when I was 27, and was a Father for the first time at 32. All I can tell you is what my experience has been like. I wish I would have waited another 3 years to get married. I still had some playing around to do, and that kind of hurt my marriage early on.

I'm glad we waiting to have children when we did, because may playing days were over, and I was ready (or as mich as one can be) for the responsibility. Point is, everyone is different in what they want and can handle. However, you better be damn sure that you are ready to settle down, especially once you decide to have kids. It's ok to F-up your own life, but you don't want to F-up one of your kids.

FloridaChief 02-21-2005 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Chico Diablo
everyone can raise a glass of vodka/whisky/whatever and I'll give the toast--and you know that I'm making a real toast when the first line is "I don't like this anymore than you do, but raise your glasses anyway."

I reserve the right to smash my glass into your temple, young Suckrates...

Slayer Diablo 02-21-2005 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by FloridaChief
I reserve the right to smash my glass into your temple, young Suckrates...

Just remember that it is not wise to go after the person who was the first to raise the same thing that you would be trying to use as a weapon.

Eleazar 02-21-2005 10:59 AM

Slayer, "relationships" with your fists, any sort of doll, a member of the clergy, or a hole in a tree or other wooden structure do not qualify you as some kind of relationship expert. In fact, I would wager that I've done 3 times the damage that you'll ever do in your life, and I still acknowledge that I don't know Raiders about women. Just STFU and quit trying to look like some playeristic baller, because you sure as hell aren't going to pull any wool wearing that rubber nose and floppy red shoes.

ROYC75 02-21-2005 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Chico Diablo
Oh and congratulations goes out to badgirl, lardass, chiefs4me, BrockLanders, and ROY75 for taking the high road.


Damn, High Road ? At least it's nice to know which damn road I'm on now since I haven't had a clue for the last year and a half . :hmmm:

Calcountry 02-21-2005 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by royr17
Ok lets start here.

I need some help with some things i need to know on gettin married, the do's, the dont's, the things you need to know about that.

I see you guys here some are married some arent so the ones that know stuff i need to know let me know about it.

So what are the things i should know about it, cause i dont wanna wait my whole life to get married, i actually wanna be married before i turn 26 which is 6 years from now.

But I wanna get started early in startin a family, so what are the do's and dont's in marriage ???

First think you should know about marriage, ist that not capitalizing (I) and writing it as an i all the time, is the same as leaving the toilette seat up.

FloridaChief 02-21-2005 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Chico Diablo
Just remember that it is not wise to go after the person who was the first to raise the same thing that you would be trying to use as a weapon.

And you just be cognizant of the fact that I've had more stimulating conversations with a scuffed-up piece of Samsonite luggage...

el borracho 02-21-2005 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Chico Diablo
In whatever definition you may have, that may be false; however, I believe that because love is the absolute strongest feeling you can have for another person and because I've experienced such happen, that deserves to be part of my definition. Now does this mean I'm going to go searching? Hell no. With the hand I'm dealt, all I can do is go into meaningless infatuations, and I can accept that...sort of.

Perhaps, like Oedipus, you should tear out your eyes to avoid temptation?

The reality is that attraction is part of being human. Loving someone, or being in love with someone doesn't rob you of that humanity. You still retain that capacity and ability to find attraction in others but it is the choices you make that will define your love as true or not.

Slayer Diablo 02-21-2005 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by ROYC75
Damn, High Road ? At least it's nice to know which damn road I'm on now since I haven't had a clue for the last year and a half . :hmmm:

Well, you're mostly on the high road...ya came pretty close to fly'n off the handle at III, but ya held back enough to stay on the high road. Congrats.

Phobia 02-21-2005 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Chico Diablo
Just remember that it is not wise to go after the person who was the first to raise the same thing that you would be trying to use as a weapon.

Just remember that "Philosopher" doesn't pay as much as it used to. You should probably have a backup plan like "Dishwasher" or "Lawnboy".

Slayer Diablo 02-21-2005 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by el borracho
Perhaps, like Oedipus, you should tear out your eyes to avoid temptation?

The reality is that attraction is part of being human. Loving someone, or being in love with someone doesn't rob you of that humanity. You still retain that capacity and ability to find attraction in others but it is the choices you make that will define your love as true or not.

Perhaps I'm not human then....

Phobia 02-21-2005 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Chico Diablo
Perhaps I'm not human then....

It's possible. We've all seen the pictures.

Slayer Diablo 02-21-2005 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Phobia
Just remember that "Philosopher" doesn't pay as much as it used to. You should probably have a backup plan like "Dishwasher" or "Lawnboy".

It's not my major, but that doesn't mean I don't study it...my major is law.

Phobia 02-21-2005 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Chico Diablo
It's not my major, but that doesn't mean I don't study it...my major is law.

That doesn't surprise me in the slightest. Just what the world needs - another ****ing know-it-all lawyer who doesn't know shit. I'm looking forward to this.

The Bad Guy 02-21-2005 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Chico Diablo
Perhaps I'm not human then....

It's likely you aren't. What are you 16? And you're telling me that when you marry whatever wildebeast you decide on, that you won't look at other girls and find them attractive?

You have no experience in the area and have NO idea how you will act when you are married.

You've set up your ideals that you won't find another woman attractive when you get married, but there is zero chance you will feel the same way when you find that unfortunate soul.

This is like having the high school girlfriend and you both go off to seperate colleges and vow to stick together, but it doesn't work.

The thought was good, but it all turned out to be bullshit when high school is over. When you find that someone, you will realize that is true.

I love my fiancee, but I can still look at a woman and determine if she is attractive or not. It's called human nature.

el borracho 02-21-2005 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Chico Diablo
Perhaps I'm not human then...


Perhaps not...


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Originally Posted by Chico Diablo
...my major is law.


Slayer Diablo 02-21-2005 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Cochise
Slayer, "relationships" with your fists, any sort of doll, a member of the clergy, or a hole in a tree or other wooden structure do not qualify you as some kind of relationship expert. In fact, I would wager that I've done 3 times the damage that you'll ever do in your life, and I still acknowledge that I don't know Raiders about women. Just STFU and quit trying to look like some playeristic baller, because you sure as hell aren't going to pull any wool wearing that rubber nose and floppy red shoes.

I have never said anything about being a relations expert and do not pose as one...whatever your interpretation is, however, is up to you. Now, I don't know what you've had go on in your life--maybe you have done that much damage, maybe you haven't--but it's not always about the damage that you do. Sure there's learning from your mistakes, but it's how much you learn from each time...not to say that I've learned more or less than anyone else. Also, the discussion isn't over knowing anything about women...aw hell, I'll admit on any day that all I know about them is that they're insane. This discussion was about defining the strongest good feeling that you can have for another person, which I may have had a bit of an advantage to depending on how you look at what's happened, but I'm not gonna get into that. Different story, different day...


BTW...**ADDITION TO THE CHIEFSPLANET BOOK OF ACRONYMS: "different story, different day" is to be known as DSDD**...if someone hasn't put it there already, that is.

badgirl 02-21-2005 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy
It's likely you aren't. What are you 16? And you're telling me that when you marry whatever wildebeast you decide on, that you won't look at other girls and find them attractive?

You have no experience in the area and have NO idea how you will act when you are married.

You've set up your ideals that you won't find another woman attractive when you get married, but there is zero chance you will feel the same way when you find that unfortunate soul.

This is like having the high school girlfriend and you both go off to seperate colleges and vow to stick together, but it doesn't work.

The thought was good, but it all turned out to be bullshit when high school is over. When you find that someone, you will realize that is true.

I love my fiancee, but I can still look at a woman and determine if she is attractive or not. It's called human nature.

I agree with all the above, when people get married, they love the one they are with no matter what, and its only human to find other people attractive as well, if your only in it for looks.....lets say your spouse had cancer on their face and it really messed their looks up, where does that leave your relationship? Its not all about looks when it comes to true love, you love that person no matter what, just cause you find other people attractive doesn't mean your gonna jump in bed with them and risk losing that special person you have at home.

Thig Lyfe 02-21-2005 11:30 AM

ChiefsPlanet is the best place to go for marriage advice.

FloridaChief 02-21-2005 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Chico Diablo
I have never said anything about being a relations expert and do not pose as one...


ROFL

Neg rep for the deliberate canard...

Slayer Diablo 02-21-2005 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy
It's likely you aren't. What are you 16? And you're telling me that when you marry whatever wildebeast you decide on, that you won't look at other girls and find them attractive?

17, but that's beside the point. No, I will probably not have that relationship if I get married because of a couple things that have happened. Basically, it all boiled down to the fact that I have to go "find someone else", which means closing my eyes and acting.

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You have no experience in the area and have NO idea how you will act when you are married.
In reality, I'm probably not going to get married in the first place. Now if that person everyone calls "God" decides to bring some awesome miracle that causes me to marry the one girl I have that strongest feeling for, then it's a "no experience necessary" kinda deal.

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You've set up your ideals that you won't find another woman attractive when you get married, but there is zero chance you will feel the same way when you find that unfortunate soul.
I'll say it twice in the same post. I'm probably not going to get married, and if I do, it's most likely not going to be what I've already called the right marriage.

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This is like having the high school girlfriend and you both go off to seperate colleges and vow to stick together, but it doesn't work.

The thought was good, but it all turned out to be bullshit when high school is over. When you find that someone, you will realize that is true.
Not really...if a guy and a girl go to separate colleges like that in the first place, then it's pretty much a dead giveaway that they're not gonna be back together. The thought isn't good because it is a thought that would keep an infatuation together...best for both to just end the relationship then and there, IMO.

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I love my fiancee, but I can still look at a woman and determine if she is attractive or not. It's called human nature.
By your definition, okay. By my definition, however, that wouldn't hold water in the least bit, but don't think for one second that what I believe should be any kind of threat to what you believe. Now about this "human nature"...the majority of people create a sphere of influence over time. Look at "Allegory of the Cave" as an example. People are forced to look at false images since birth and because they know nothing else, they have to believe that is reality. They may break away from the cave wall with the shadows and move toward the fire to see the puppets creating the shadow, but all they have found out is that what they knew was a lie...they still don't know the truth. A person would have to be carried out of the cave kicking and screaming and forced to see what reality is. So that is pretty much why we believe it is "human nature"...whether you agree with that or not, that's for you to decide.

unlurking 02-21-2005 12:07 PM

Oh god.

The "unrequited love" of a teenager.

:rolleyes:

Now I know where this "font of knowledge" springs from.

RedNFeisty 02-21-2005 12:10 PM

Just don't do it! :thumb:

Phobia 02-21-2005 12:10 PM

Have I mentioned that I hate teacher in service days and school holidays?

Eleazar 02-21-2005 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by unlurking
Oh god.

The "unrequited love" of a teenager.

:rolleyes:

Now I know where this "font of knowledge" springs from.

This is what happens when your knowledge of relationships comes exclusively from Dawson's Creek reruns

Slayer Diablo 02-21-2005 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Cochise
This is what happens when your knowledge of relationships comes exclusively from Dawson's Creek reruns

I have always hated Dawson's Creek and every one of those infatuatious bastards. The fans of that show should be cast out of society.

ChiTown 02-21-2005 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Cochise
This is what happens when your knowledge of relationships comes exclusively from Dawson's Creek reruns

OMG!

ROFL

Bearcat 02-21-2005 12:27 PM

I came on to this thread thinking about how people would be laughing at roy, even though we shouldn't, because we've all been there.... and really, the only thing we can do is offer advice, even though we know he wouldn't take it.... because we didn't.

8 pages into this though, I was happy to find the advice of Suave Diablo..... it's one thing to be naive and to tell people "I'm really in love" or whatever, but it's just wrong to come off like you're an expert because you think adults are full of it when they say teenagers don't have enough real-life experience. You don't. Don't pretend you do.

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Originally Posted by Chico Diablo
EXCEPT every week for that 10 years, the relationship will deteriorate as much as it did in those couple of months; and then get back to us at the end of that couple months...you won't even want to hear the word "marriage".

Is this like the half-life law of marriage? WTF? Is this one of your "facts"?



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Originally Posted by Chico Diablo
1) you're not attracted to anyone but the person you're in love with--that covers both mentally and physically. 2) you would go through an eternity of torment just to see the person you love for a split-second. 3) you would do absolutely anything for that person without asking or wanting anything in return--a.k.a. "love has no conditions". 4) you would go through the worst pain imaginable for a trillion years just to know for one second that the one you love is okay. /// There's still a lot that I'm leaving out, but those are the four that I can state without creating an essay.

You were doing okay until this total BS.... for the most part, people appreciate the beauty of the human body. From a young age, to death. Period. It's not just asking too much, it's impossible to take away the basic attraction between you and someone else, much less all but one person. The temptation might go away, but not attraction.

Two and four are high school feelings. The idea that you're trying to be an adult about a topic you hardly know anything about vanishes with these ideas.


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Do not even attempt to battle me on this. I know for a fact that the first law is both possible and probable even with humans.

Please elaborate.


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8, and enough.
...
after 9 girls to see who had been there for over a decade

Please elaborate.... Have you held hands with that many girls? Have you caught eyes in the hallway with that many girls? I sure as hell know you haven't dated that many girls, much less have been in a relationship with them. Don't give me that "you don't even know me anymore" crap, either. I know unless you think a relationship can totally take place in a high school, you haven't been in 1.




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Originally Posted by Chico Diablo
I have never said anything about being a relations expert and do not pose as one...

YES YOU HAVE!!! "This is a fact", "that's a fact", 79.8% it'll fail, while 43.84% of the stats I type are made up... You TOTALLY come off like you think you're Dr. Phil.

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..which I may have had a bit of an advantage to depending on how you look at what's happened, but I'm not gonna get into that. Different story, different day...

Elaborate please. Or do I have to wait until tomorrow? ROFL

Bearcat 02-21-2005 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico Diablo
17, but that's beside the point. No, I will probably not have that relationship if I get married because of a couple things that have happened. Basically, it all boiled down to the fact that I have to go "find someone else", which means closing my eyes and acting.

From that last post, I gather you think there's only one person for everyone. Don't think that way, because from what it sounds like, you've already screwed yourself.
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however, that wouldn't hold water in the least bit, but don't think for one second that what I believe should be any kind of threat to what you believe.

I don't think he will ROFL

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Now about this "human nature"...the majority of people create a sphere of influence over time. Look at "Allegory of the Cave" as an example. People are forced to look at false images since birth and because they know nothing else, they have to believe that is reality. They may break away from the cave wall with the shadows and move toward the fire to see the puppets creating the shadow, but all they have found out is that what they knew was a lie...they still don't know the truth. A person would have to be carried out of the cave kicking and screaming and forced to see what reality is. So that is pretty much why we believe it is "human nature"...whether you agree with that or not, that's for you to decide
Huh? What's any of that have to do with finding the opposite sex attractive? They might be fake boobs, but they aren't a false image.

Eleazar 02-21-2005 12:34 PM

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From that last post, I gather you think there's only one person for everyone. Don't think that way, because from what it sounds like, you've already screwed yourself.

bahahah!!

Bearcat 02-21-2005 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Phobia
Have I mentioned that I hate teacher in service days and school holidays?

Heh... I find it interesting to see others go through the same high school stuff, like royIII, but somewhat disturbing when I see someone that thinks they have it all figured out at 17.

Glad lunch is over.

Eleazar 02-21-2005 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat
Heh... I find it interesting to see others go through the same high school stuff, like royIII, but somewhat disturbing when I see someone that thinks they have it all figured out at 17.

Glad lunch is over.

I have much more respect for royIII. He came here wanting to ask questions about something he realized he knew nothing about. He recognized that he was ignorant on the subject. On the other hand, spankmaster flash here doesn't even realize that.

badgirl 02-21-2005 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by RedNFeisty
Just don't do it! :thumb:

Damn it Roy Red make 2 females on here who tell you not to do it!!

Your too young, I'm not against marriage, just wait till your a lot older, live and have fun you only get one life, enjoy it :thumb:

unlurking 02-21-2005 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by badgirl
Damn it Roy Red make 2 females on here who tell you not to do it!!

Your too young, I'm not against marriage, just wait till your a lot older, live and have fun you only get one life, enjoy it :thumb:

I'm sure if Roy had 2 females on here do more than talk to him he'd be willing to wait! How far are you willing to go to help the spud?
;)

(just kidding!)

badgirl 02-21-2005 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by unlurking
I'm sure if Roy had 2 females on here do more than talk to him he'd be willing to wait! How far are you willing to go to help the spud?
;)

(just kidding!)

Red what are ya up for to save this boys future? ROFL

Phobia 02-21-2005 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat
Please elaborate.... Have you held hands with that many girls? Have you caught eyes in the hallway with that many girls? I sure as hell know you haven't dated that many girls, much less have been in a relationship with them. Don't give me that "you don't even know me anymore" crap, either. I know unless you think a relationship can totally take place in a high school, you haven't been in 1.

8 relationships includes the lady from the vet, "Young man, please tell your mother Fido is ready to be picked up" - a lady from the phone company, "Are you SURE you don't want to switch to MCI?" - and a couple of female teachers from school.... oh - and your mother too.

unlurking 02-21-2005 12:46 PM

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Red what are ya up for to save this boys future? ROFL

:eek:

Ummm, I umm, could use some ummm, help too.

ROFL

badgirl 02-21-2005 12:51 PM

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:eek:

Ummm, I umm, could use some ummm, help too.

ROFL

Ok everyone interested just sign up below. :rolleyes:

Looks like you guys need a lot of help, thank God I can count on Red to help me out. ROFL

Slayer Diablo 02-21-2005 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat
From that last post, I gather you think there's only one person for everyone. Don't think that way, because from what it sounds like, you've already screwed yourself.
...
Huh? What's any of that have to do with finding the opposite sex attractive? They might be fake boobs, but they aren't a false image.

I'll start with this one cause it's gonna take the least amount of time...

"One person for everyone" means that there is only one person that you will have the strongest feeling for...if you've met that person, you have to learn how to close your eyes again (I'm speaking metaphorically, so don't be an asshole and say that you can do that when you blink and sleep)...you don't have to be with that person, just close your eyes so you're blindly attracted to others just like everyone else in the world. You're not truely gonna be happy, but who cares.

I was showing how society has painted an image of what human nature is. For instance, there's a majority that says one thing is a brilliant conclusion and they teach it as fact to all future generations...the vast majority of people are going to believe it because it's all they've ever known, then there are going to be the few that start to question it and say that what was complete BS. A good example, although by far not the best, is religion.

Hammock Parties 02-21-2005 12:53 PM

Can I get some advice on polygamy? I'm interested.

Dartgod 02-21-2005 12:55 PM

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...just close your eyes so you're blindly attracted to others just like everyone else in the world. You're not truely gonna be happy, but who cares.

You should cut your losses and say, "Yep, I'm just a dumbshit who really has no life experiences to validate the crap I've been spewing", instead of providing more ammo for the masses.

Slayer Diablo 02-21-2005 01:19 PM

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I came on to this thread thinking about how people would be laughing at roy, even though we shouldn't, because we've all been there.... and really, the only thing we can do is offer advice, even though we know he wouldn't take it.... because we didn't.

8 pages into this though, I was happy to find the advice of Suave Diablo..... it's one thing to be naive and to tell people "I'm really in love" or whatever, but it's just wrong to come off like you're an expert because you think adults are full of it when they say teenagers don't have enough real-life experience. You don't. Don't pretend you do.

I hate how you do this time-consuming "group all the questions into one post" stuff...but I guess it's easier for everyone to stay consistant.

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Is this like the half-life law of marriage? WTF? Is this one of your "facts"?
More of a half-life law of infatuation, but even calling it that would be going a bit too far. It's just to give an idea of what's probable.

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You were doing okay until this total BS.... for the most part, people appreciate the beauty of the human body. From a young age, to death. Period. It's not just asking too much, it's impossible to take away the basic attraction between you and someone else, much less all but one person. The temptation might go away, but not attraction.
What basis do you have for claiming that it's impossible? All you know is what you have from your experiences. Now, I'll admit that it's rare to find such a thing to happen, but it's not impossible.

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Two and four are high school feelings. The idea that you're trying to be an adult about a topic you hardly know anything about vanishes with these ideas.
The highschool feeling part is SAYING that you'll do it and then wimp out when push comes to shove. It's part of the "law" when you actually do it.

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Please elaborate.
How else would anyone know that something is both possible and probable?

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Please elaborate.... Have you held hands with that many girls? Have you caught eyes in the hallway with that many girls? I sure as hell know you haven't dated that many girls, much less have been in a relationship with them. Don't give me that "you don't even know me anymore" crap, either. I know unless you think a relationship can totally take place in a high school, you haven't been in 1.
You know that this statement of yours shouldn't even be dignified with a response.... 9 short flings, and 1 that was known although not a relationship.


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YES YOU HAVE!!! "This is a fact", "that's a fact", 79.8% it'll fail, while 43.84% of the stats I type are made up... You TOTALLY come off like you think you're Dr. Phil.
Pointing out some facts does not make anyone an expert. I can point out that one plus one equals two, the diaganols of a rectangle are equal to one another, and sine equals csc(90degrees - Pi), but that doesn't make me a math expert. As I stated about the statistics, those were rough estimates that I provided to give an idea of how probable it was.

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Elaborate please. Or do I have to wait until tomorrow? ROFL
You--specifically--are going to wait four years to hear the story. You don't seem to take information from people very well unless they're completely adults...if you'd like to try to disprove that, go ahead.

Slayer Diablo 02-21-2005 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod
You should cut your losses and say, "Yep, I'm just a dumbshit who really has no life experiences to validate the crap I've been spewing", instead of providing more ammo for the masses.

If the statement you wish me to say were true, this thread would be about 4 pages shorter.

Bearcat 02-21-2005 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico Diablo
"One person for everyone" means that there is only one person that you will have the strongest feeling for...if you've met that person, you have to learn how to close your eyes again (I'm speaking metaphorically, so don't be an asshole and say that you can do that when you blink and sleep)...you don't have to be with that person, just close your eyes so you're blindly attracted to others just like everyone else in the world. You're not truely gonna be happy, but who cares.

With 6 billion people on earth, and growing, love is not 1:1. If you do believe that, it's hard to imagine someone actually finding that one, and harder to imagine that someone would actually find that one before the age of 20 and know they're the one. AND, it's even harder to believe that it always works both ways; that the feeling is mutual (spelled out, Slayer's one is Janet and Janet's one is Slayer and not someone else).

And on top of that, you can't sit behind your computer monitor and deem every relationship that isn't the one:the one as not being truly happy. [insert happiness cliche here]

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Originally Posted by Chico Diablo
I was showing how society has painted an image of what human nature is. For instance, there's a majority that says one thing is a brilliant conclusion and they teach it as fact to all future generations...the vast majority of people are going to believe it because it's all they've ever known, then there are going to be the few that start to question it and say that what was complete BS. A good example, although by far not the best, is religion.

Uh, finding someone attractive is opinion... While society does show you what it deems attractive, everyone has a different opinion of what's really attractive. I don't find certain people attractive because people have been telling me since birth that I should find them attractive. Even if society hadn't helped mold what I find attractive or not, it still doesn't mean I can shut it off just because I found "the one".

Slayer Diablo 02-21-2005 01:24 PM

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Can I get some advice on polygamy? I'm interested.

It's legal in Saudi Arabia, but you'll still need to get rich enough to buy the wives...

lardass 02-21-2005 01:34 PM

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Can I get some advice on polygamy? I'm interested.

One woman is hard enough to please, why would you want two and better yet, why would you think you can handle two or more women?

|Zach| 02-21-2005 01:42 PM

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When you truly come to the realization that you don't know anything, it will be the greatest moment of enlightenment in your entire life.

ROFL ROFL

Slayer Diablo 02-21-2005 01:42 PM

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With 6 billion people on earth, and growing, love is not 1:1. If you do believe that, it's hard to imagine someone actually finding that one, and harder to imagine that someone would actually find that one before the age of 20 and know they're the one. AND, it's even harder to believe that it always works both ways; that the feeling is mutual (spelled out, Slayer's one is Janet and Janet's one is Slayer and not someone else).

Yes, it's hard to imagine, but that doesn't matter. Just because one's mind cannot handle the concept of trillions upon trillions of stars, planets, etc. in an infinitely growing void doesn't mean that such does not exist. And just because one cannot handle the concept of 6 billion people having the mutual connection only between the two of them doesn't mean that such connection does not exist. Of course it's going to be rare for two people who are connected to find each other and it's a good reason to not even bother searching, but it does exist. Of course, if it feels better to just not find that connection, then by all means go ahead and keep the blind attractions for others. Such attractions can make people happy, but it's not going to be true happiness.

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And on top of that, you can't sit behind your computer monitor and deem every relationship that isn't the one:the one as not being truly happy. [insert happiness cliche here]
Damn, I answered this one up there....oh well.

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Uh, finding someone attractive is opinion... While society does show you what it deems attractive, everyone has a different opinion of what's really attractive. I don't find certain people attractive because people have been telling me since birth that I should find them attractive. Even if society hadn't helped mold what I find attractive or not, it still doesn't mean I can shut it off just because I found "the one".
It's a mindsets established by others that say "you should find the person who makes you truly happy" and "this is what that person should be like:..." that create the idea of "I should be attracted to this person, and that person, and that person...." As for shutting it off, you're not the one to shut it off...it's like those computers that shut down when a specific something is sensed.

bogie 02-21-2005 02:03 PM

Chico, I am very impressed with your ability to spread bullsh*t. You stick to your guns. If in a few years If I ever need to hire an attorney I'd contact you. You are so obviously inmature, but you are consistant. Please allow yourself some room for improvement. Most successful people in life surround themselves with people that are better than and more intelligent than themselves.
III, enjoy your relationship for what it is. Don't mess it up with marriage. Let the relationship flow and you go with the flow. Don't push it.
Both of you need to go to your rooms and don't come out until you understand that you're to young to be having these grown up conversations.

lardass 02-21-2005 02:26 PM

Yeah... I think I am going to like it here. :D

Hammock Parties 02-21-2005 02:29 PM

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Yeah... I think I am going to like it here. :D

This is just the tip of the iceberg, my friend. Wait until we get you properly introduced to SDChiefsfan.

Hammock Parties 02-21-2005 02:30 PM

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One woman is hard enough to please, why would you want two and better yet, why would you think you can handle two or more women?

I am the chosen one.

Slayer Diablo 02-21-2005 02:45 PM

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Yeah... I think I am going to like it here. :D

You'll enjoy it...just remember to not take any insults seriously. Once you're completely ready, there will be a day where we all get together and roast the hell outta ya...those are some good threads--possibly as entertaining as this one was to a lot of people.

Phobia 02-21-2005 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico Diablo
You'll enjoy it...just remember to not take any insults seriously.

That rule is valid for everybody except you. We really do want you to leave and come back when you have a clue.

lardass 02-21-2005 02:52 PM

I can handle it, sarcasm is what I am all about. ;)

|Zach| 02-21-2005 02:54 PM

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I can handle it, sarcasm is what I am all about. ;)

Well thats nice...but he was referring to insults...

Sarcasm and insults don't always go hand in hand here. ROFL

Slayer Diablo 02-21-2005 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by bogie
Chico, I am very impressed with your ability to spread bullsh*t. You stick to your guns. If in a few years If I ever need to hire an attorney I'd contact you. You are so obviously inmature, but you are consistant. Please allow yourself some room for improvement. Most successful people in life surround themselves with people that are better than and more intelligent than themselves.
....

It's not bullsh*t, but thanks anyway...kind of.

Bearcat 02-21-2005 03:10 PM

What basis do you have for claiming that it's impossible? All you know is what you have from your experiences. Now, I'll admit that it's rare to find such a thing to happen, but it's not impossible.

You might as well be arguing that there is an Easter bunny, because no, I don't have proof that there's no Easter bunny, but that doesn't make your claim that there is one anything less than complete BS.

I go to Capital Grille. I'm not going to wake up the next morning and have no desire to ever eat a steak at the Outback or anywhere else. (don't argue that I'm not truly in love with the steak, because that's not the point... and I am! ROFL ). It's the same thing. Preferences change, but a switch isn't thrown one day and you say "I only have eyes for you". Anyone that has ever said that is full of it. You can't be attracted to one person, yet find those same set of qualities unattractive in someone else.



The highschool feeling part is SAYING that you'll do it and then wimp out when push comes to shove. It's part of the "law" when you actually do it.

No, it's a high school feeling to even think it. Through thick or thin, sickness and health... sure. Eternity of pain for a split second of company? That's either high school or a really bad monster ballad.


How else would anyone know that something is both possible and probable?

Well, elaborate on it... what, in your life -- experience or link or whatever -- has shown you that both are possible & probable?


You know that this statement of yours shouldn't even be dignified with a response.... 9 short flings, and 1 that was known although not a relationship.

Sure it does..... Before people take love advice from anyone, they like to know where that advice is coming from.

Pointing out some facts does not make anyone an expert. I can point out that one plus one equals two, the diaganols of a rectangle are equal to one another, and sine equals csc(90degrees - Pi), but that doesn't make me a math expert. As I stated about the statistics, those were rough estimates that I provided to give an idea of how probable it was.

This is weak and you know it. Pointing out a mathematical fact is FAR different from stating a fact on love. When someone says something is a fact about a subject as ...what's the word... a subject like love, you're implying you either know an awful lot about love or have had quite a bit of experience in love.


You--specifically--are going to wait four years to hear the story. You don't seem to take information from people very well unless they're completely adults...if you'd like to try to disprove that, go ahead

Sure -- Psicosis. For a long time I thought he was as old or older than me, because (sometimes) he can act like it. Knowing that he's your age hasn't changed anything, because he can still (sometimes) act older than he is. It's not age. It's you ;)

Phobia 02-21-2005 03:12 PM

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It's not bullsh*t, but thanks anyway...kind of.

I can't wait until you turn 18 because we're gonna give you the best blanket party in the history of mankind. Bearcat is gonna let us in, too.

Rausch 02-21-2005 03:19 PM

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I can't wait until you turn 18 because we're gonna give you the best blanket party in the history of mankind. Bearcat is gonna let us in, too.

I think it'd be much more fun to get him sideways-drunk and hook him up with an insanely large young lady.

Knowing full well half the ****ers on this BB have digital cameras...

unlurking 02-21-2005 03:23 PM

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I think it'd be much more fun to get him sideways-drunk and hook him up with an insanely large young lady.

Knowing full well half the ****ers on this BB have digital cameras...

Actually, why don't we just give him to DenverChief? Maybe there is one real lover PER SEX in the world for everyone?!

:D

Bearcat 02-21-2005 03:26 PM

Of course it's going to be rare for two people who are connected to find each other and it's a good reason to not even bother searching, but it does exist. Of course, if it feels better to just not find that connection, then by all means go ahead and keep the blind attractions for others. Such attractions can make people happy, but it's not going to be true happiness.

Don't give me that "just because it's hard to imagine"... [sarcasm]I invented that[/sarcasm]. How do you know such a thing exists? I don't want to hear "how do you not?"... How do you know that that's how love works?

And do you know how condescending "if it feels better to just not find that connection, ..." sounds? [more sarcasm]Well, I'm glad at 17 years old YOU, of all people, have found what love is all about.[/sarcasm] Everyone on Chiefsplanet that has a SO should be lining up to punch you in the face right now for coming off like you're the wise one that knows they aren't truly happy.

You don't know shit, so stop acting like you do.



It's a mindsets established by others that say "you should find the person who makes you truly happy" and "this is what that person should be like:..." that create the idea of "I should be attracted to this person, and that person, and that person...." As for shutting it off, you're not the one to shut it off...it's like those computers that shut down when a specific something is sensed.

No, it's not. If the mindset of who we should be happy with was created by society, everyone would be heterosexual.

Bearcat 02-21-2005 03:28 PM

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Actually, why don't we just give him to DenverChief? Maybe there is one real lover PER SEX in the world for everyone?!

:D

ROFLROFL


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