You didn't see farmer Bob...anyway I thought it was funny.

This is a transexual thread. There is absolutely no reason to be bringing barnyard animal sex into the discussion.

It's not a bicycle. It's a Segway, which is even more prophetic. Brilliant, I tell you. Brilliant!

Quit begging...you should never beg. I wanna go to the games also, but being way down here and having a family, I will probably only get to go to the Dallas game. Start putting a dollar a day in a jar and when the time comes you will have enough money. You are close enough to arrowhead that it shouldn't cost you gas or lodging...so you should be able to make a game.....just start saving for it. I am not bitching at you....I just don't like seeing someone taking a risk like this for only the cost of a ticket.

She clearly said earlier that she wouldn't accept a ticket from a serial killer or a psychopath.

The life lessons never stop, do they?

:rolleyes:......and how the hell are you supposed to know if they are one of those. I gotta tell you that there are at least 3 people on the planet that I tend to think lean that way...:hmmm:

I take it you don't believe in the honor system?

I think she's comfortable with the honor system.

Darn you, cdcox.

Really, and who do you think those are Doc?

I bet she sees one everytime she brushes her teeth.

She could have seen faces on her pancakes or a piece of toast? :shrug:

Welcome to the Internet.

Oh boy. Life Advice with chiefs4me time.

now just because you have seen them doesn't mean everybody has...:)

thanks.....ROFL

STFU, moron.

Who in the hell is "them"? Seriously, who do you think are the three posters on here who could snap on go all Norm Bates?

Them was referring to the faces on the pancakes...:rolleyes: I guess you didn't get it. And yea..I would say there are a couple of people on here that I have no interest in meeting and think they are a little OFF. I am sure most of you think the same about me.ROFL

go to hell idiot

Stop talking about me! :cuss:

Uhhh, why would you say that?

i like that one...

if you're the fourth, then it's you...

love it... ROFL ROFL ROFL

and psi?

you go, girl... :thumb:

ROFL ROFL If she has them, she is cool. ROFL

I fixed your post. ROFL

Who'da-thunk that DP4ME would have the ability to end up being the center of a Tranny thread.....

something tells me that dp4me eats from a collostomy bag.

Actually, I think Bob Dole stole this whole thread. Everything else is secondary. I wish PSI all the best, but Bob Dole should put this one in the hall of classics. ROFL

Eh, you guys focus too much on wangs. I guess that's to be expected, but really, it's not even close to being the biggest issue on my mind.

Bah. I only hated the LJ pick when we drafted him (I was opposing Jim by the early part of last year, at least), and I have a soft spot for DV even though I think he is occasionally prone to his, err, senior moments.

In the immortal words of Jenso--

Huh.

Yeah, sorry, I try not to put off that vibe. I was going to take angel to the game under the condition that she wears nothing but a trenchcoat, stuffs raisins up her nose, and refers to me only as "Conan, the God of lovemaking". Thanks to your post, I now see the err of my ways. I'll make the raisins optional.

Well that sucks. We were all looking forward to calling you Conan.
Damnit to hell! :cuss:

Don't fret. The Conan part is still on! Shame about the raisins, though.

Damn, just Damn ROFL ROFL

This is the first thread I read in the time of my hiatus. For fucks sake I've never laughed so hard in my life. Psi, UBU no matter what, and fuck anyone that thinks otherwise. Chances are they have some insecurities in their own lives and aren't near woman enough to admit it out loud like you have. I nominate this whole thread for the hall of classics, why you ask? Well I too thought Psi was gonna take sh*t for that post, but instead the guy who puts catsup on his steak takes all the heat. (And it was deserved too, you sick fuck.) Just when I thought it couldn't get any better good ole, (old) Bob Dole comes in with some twisted, raving, psycho rant about the what I conceived to be the pair of tits he always wished he could have. (Does that sound right?) God I've missed you guys...........I'll go back to lurking now ;)

Very nice Re-Cap, not necessary to read it now. ROFL

Don't worry, if chiefs4me ever wants to go to the game with me, she will behold the power of cantalope and duct tape.

WOW.

Psicosis, I don't know too many girls who are into sports and video games as much, are you sure you're one? JK, but seriously, man good for you. You just liberated yourself and now can live a real life for the first time since four (I'm not saying you didn't have a life or it sucked, just saying you can now live it how you want).

Psi, this thread really surprises me, I never knew you were so young, I thought you were a older guy.

Does that offer go to anyone, or just angel?

As it turns out, you were wrong on both counts.

Why not? That would be completely on-the-mark.

So you're saying you were way off on both?

So is the cantaloupe (they're actually musk melons, you know) for her mouth, too, or does it have some other purpose?

So badgirl read the post, and the bombshell that she came away with is, "Wow, (s)he's young."

of course I was wrong on both, would you guys expect anything else?

Seriously Psi, I am glad you got to get this off your chest, what a relief that must be, best wishes and enjoy life, screw what other people thinks of you, just be yourself, male or female. :toast:

I'm sure it was a stunning revelation. ROFL

Just angel, but if you want to try it with your significant other, be my guest.

This settles it. I'm going back to Colorado. :harumph:

Oh you mean the girl being trapped in your male body? Well, if you said you were gay, black, hispanic, it wouldn't matter to me, I like to read your posts and you seem like a good person, who has never been mean to me, so I don't care what you are, hell you could be a alien and it wouldn't matter I like you, but I never pictured you as young, well I never pictured you as a shemale either. :doh!:

Weird.

I don't know what to say, but maybe a little wisdom from a concert one evening when a stoned dude once told me: Man, unlike other animals, have never learned that the sole purpose of life is to enjoy it.

Psi- enjoy it!

I meant the young part.

Wow, I'm finally offended!

I'm not sure yet. I think I'll need them to stop my ears from bleeding after listening to Hawk Harrelson for the last hour.

Truly a fate worse than death.

Wow.
Just wow.

Bob Dole isn't really Bob Dole.
How can Bob Dole (or whoever the hell you are) live with Bob Dole (or whoever the hell you are) after all these years of deception? :cuss:

And anyone that puts ketchup on steak needs to be shot.

And I don't even know what Psi's problem is.
So you're a woman trapped in a man's body.

Big freakin' deal!

Call us when ya got a real problem, like when you find a man that never puts the seat down.
That's a real problem for women, at least according to my wife.

If I can ask, what makes you feel this way? I'm not talking about root sources, I'm talking about specific aspects?

Attraction to guys?
A drive to be found attractive by men?
Wish to emulate femininity?
The clothes?
Traditional gender roles?

Don't worry about hurting my feelings if you don't want to answer.

I fixed your post for you.

Never fear, Heavyweights is on the Disney channel. Time to repulse the monkey.

Just to clarify... How many times are you counting Tom Cash?

Explaining things has never really been my forte, so an already beyond difficult subject for anyone who's not actually experienced it to understand is made even tougher, but I'll try to explain a little.

I've never identified as a guy. Just, haven't done it. I've never felt like I "belonged" in that classification, and I've really never been that comfortable around guys (especially as time has gone on; my best friend's not your typical "manly man" -- some would probably describe him as a "metrosexual," with his longish hair and soft features and generally not-terribly-masculine interests; he's a guy, just not a super-masculine one -- and I'm still uncomfortable around him most of the time; 'course, part of that could stem from the fact that, while he's nonchalantly looking at porn, I'll be holding back thoughts like, "Why does she feel the need to do that? If I had her body, there's no way I'd let everyone see it like that. God, I wish I had her body."). Like I said, even when I was very young and really didn't have a clue what all of the differences were, I always thought of myself as being a girl. I couldn't see myself any other way, despite the confusion I felt when I realized that admitting that to people would be a bad idea. I was pretty perceptive for a kid, really, which both helped and hurt.

As for most of the stuff you mentioned, it didn't really impact my perception of who I was as much as it was affected by my perception of who I was. I think I'm probably straight, on the whole, because I find certain guys to be pretty hot at times (and whenever I look at pretty girls, envy is the overwhelming emotion), but I never really think too much about that simply because I have too much of my own stuff to deal with to worry about anyone else. Also, I do think it would be nice to have the option of wearing something cool-looking or pretty rather than the crap I wear (mostly a big, bland pullover and cargo pants, weather permitting, with ragged sneakers, which is ironically what seems to be fairly popular among trans guys -- "trans guys," by the way, refers to genetic females who feel their gender identity is male), but again, it's more of a side effect rather than some driving force.

Now, why is it that I didn't (and don't) identify with the people who share my physical similarities? What makes the vast majority of people comfortable in their bodies/assigned gender roles while that small group of us isn't? I have no idea, and really, no one does. There are lots of theories, but that's all there are. Nothing conclusive. Most of them revolve around stuff like hormone levels at birth or what have you, but I don't really know enough or even care enough to find out too much. I can't change who I am, so does it really matter why on a scientific level? Sure, it would be great to be able to hold up something to "prove" myself to those who can't comprehend it, but there's nothing out there that currently does so, so I can't bother myself with it.

I don't know. It's just really tough to explain, and the rambling takes over every time I try to. Imagine yourself placed into a female body (or a male body, for female posters/readers, which is more analogous to my situation), and then imagine everyone expecting you to act like you're entirely comfortable with that and that you like who you're expected to be, when you are really, truly not. Toss in severe self-consciousness and paranoia, and maybe that's an approximation of what it's like, though from a different direction (and I have a ton of sympathy for trans guys; both sides have it extremely tough in similar and different ways).

In the end, though, I don't really think it's possible for someone who hasn't had to think about their gender to understand, though, just as someone who's always been blind or deaf doesn't really "get" sight or music the way people who have lived with it as a part of their lives for as long as they can remember do. It's just such an innate part of your being.

oooh I love duct tape...;)

Oh yeah, now we're talking. :p

Hey, Psi, don't answer anything that makes you uncomfortable. My degree is in Psychology so I'm interested in things like this. It sounds like something could have gone wrong with the genes. Since you know so much about sports, did you play any sports in high school and were you accepted by classmates and teammates? I know how cruel kids can be and would imagine some of them made it even more difficult for you if they suspected what was going on. Do you think you would be more comfortable as a female and if so do you think there is a chance you would make the change? Again, just ignore anything you don't want to answer.

I was just about to ask the same thing. I was wondering about potentially klinefelter's syndrome?

And PSI....I would like to know what you do for a living and are you really only 20?

Sounds like Psicosis needs a trip to Trinadad, CO....

Yes, he really is only 20. He was already on the old Star Board when I showed up. He has always gotten along extremely well with much older posters and is very well liked by everyone. He is one of my very favorite posters.

good god....you about burnt my eyes with that nasty sig...:harumph:

High praise from a cranky old... jk :)


I agree. Psico's always been one of my favorites too. Kind of a younger.. slightly less sane Rainman.

Nasty is as nasty does...

I do have to say, this explains that whole Scott Baio thing. I guess.

ROFL

spoken like a true donkey fan.....nothing like telling the truth huh.....:harumph:

We're talking about my sig which says the Broncos are gonna win the AFCW in 2005. If that's nasty for some posters to deal with, oh well...

Yeah, I've always had a soft spot for Psi. He was only 15 when I showed up but you sure couldn't tell it. I've never seen him get pissed off and say nasty things like I do. I harass him as much as I do everybody else and was only able to get a small rise out of him by calling Memphis "minor league" and implying any school named after a town and not a state wasn't shit. He's a really good kid.

You idiots will be all alone in the cellar this season. It won't be nasty - it'll be beautiful.

Cool. You just made Psicosis wince five times. Keep doing it, and see if you can start a fight.

I know how much you hate the Donks, but I think the cellar is reserved for the Raiders this year, as it should be.
I'm good with the Donks finishing 3rd.

We'll have to wait and see on that. I'm confident the Broncos will have a very good year and make the playoffs. The only team in the AFCW that is a serious contendar to win the division is the chargers, and I'm confident the Broncos can compete with them.

Considering their F-minus draft/offseason moves, I don't think there's enough thin air or cooking spray in Colorado to save them from the cellar. Everybody else improved.

Are you already back in Chicago, frazod?