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LOL...whatever. Ryan Sims was always dogshit here. Page is going to be a dominant safety.
Yeah I did. Go look.
Why would he want to? DV's briefcase was full of shit.

Good stuff.

I don't know where I'd be without fans who don't care a bit about their old coach, telling me how much he sucks.

Man, I don't know you....but you are just GD Brilliant. I mean, friggin' Einstein brilliant....bi-atch.

Rep, dude. You are the shit.... :thumb:





:p

Sims sucked ass from day one... anyone who says differently wasn't paying attention.

I don't like the self-promoting, but you're right.

LICK MY BALLS

I've seen this guy in DC. A Republican I believe. :D

Just because a guy has good drafts doesn't mean that he's a good head coach.

The two are completely different aspects.

Teams like the Bengals have drafted quite well the last five years (as far as *talent* evaluation), but their gameday coaches are still subpar, and as a result, they underachieve

Vermeil's staff obviously couldn't evaluate talent for shit, but at least the offensive side was well prepared on gameday.

That Colts game was more embarrassing than any game I've ever witnessed as a Chiefs fan because not only did we come out flat, but neither O or D knew what the fuck to do as far as a gameplan goes.

IF not for Ty Law, we would have lost that game by 45 points.

Anybody wondering if they should take GOQUEER seriously just go read his training camp reports. Completely fluff and homerism filled garbage, and he acts like a scout when he is a fan with no eye for talent.

That's got nothing to do with the discussion at hand. :p

Or they're playing great, scoring on their own and giving your offense a short field. Getting a bunch of 3 and outs. You know, crazy s**t like that.

The Colts loss last year wasn't any different than the loss at home in the playoffs during the Vermeil era. Our D looked just as unprepared as our O was last season. And how many years did it take Vermeil to get KC in that situation? It took Herm one season.

Sorry but this Herm bashing is ridiculous

I missed this jewel, Offensive Philosophies didn't match? ROFL Like scoring points?
No, he was kicking a leg out from under Trent Green. THIS was Herm's team now dammit!

Trent was/is done. Are you seriously arguing otherwise? It's time for the Chiefs to move on.

EXACTLY!

Post of the thread so far. Furthermore, how do we know that Herm has had a good Chiefs draft? We are all still in the honeymoon/evaluation period of his two drafts.

This really is a great point, IMO. Rep worthy.

Our Defense did a ****ing fine job against the Colts Offense. The D knew what they were doing. Its just that the Colts Offense was way better then our D. Our offense was a freaking joke no doubt, but our Defense came to play. I wasnt embarrased by that loss at all. The High Scoring shoot out in 2003-2004 was worse. We were the 13-3 seed and we couldnt force a damn punt. IN the Winter, and in freaking KC.

Trent was not done when Terry Shea was let go. You really don't get it?

Trent was done immediately following the playoff loss. It was time to move on.

Facts. Them's some pesky little mo-fo's.

Oh really? I can think of a few more embarrassing performances than that one against far worse teams than the Colts. The Colts were the SB champions last year and proved they were the better team. No shame in losing to those guys.

You're like Jim's Mini-Me.

I don't think Herm messed with the offense much at all last year. With Huard at QB and without a left tackle there's no way they could have run the same plays as before. The only game I really put on Herm from an offensive standpoint is game 2 against Denver.....that was a bit conservative.

I still don't really think he's jacked with the offense as much as people think. Solari is still running the Saunders offense....he might not use as large a volume of plays or be calling as wide a variety of plays but the offense is still the same.

Honestly I feel the DV offense could've been even better had they cut down on the volume of plays. Solari had this weird thing about never running the same play twice over a 6 game span. That's a bit much IMO and just leads to brain overload which is why young players couldn't play in that system.

hahah...sometimes....i much more of a realist though. Its neither as bad as most people like Jim make it out to be, nor is it as good as alot of us wish it was.

Its somewhere perfectly in Carl Peterson 7-9 to 9-7 land.

Pretty much.

I tend to think it's setting us up for brighter days, though.

You can't rebuild without taking a step back, and I wouldn't be surprised at 6-10.

I just like where things are going.

Agreed. I love what hes done with the defense. and he did give Brodie his shot but he failed overall. I still have hopes he will come around.

People act as if he doesnt want to score points, but come on...what coach doesnt want to score? Thats just asinine.

He may not be the best game day offensive strategist, but hes a heck of a scout, motivator and talent evaluator.

I agree with everything you said there.

Herm wants to score as many points as possible. He's making a point to his team. If we put up 21.. that's a win. If we put up 21 and lose... that's on the D.

We're a defensive team now... get used to it, and step the **** up.

Agreed. All hes trying to say is he wants a balanced team. Balance wins championships.


Teams that win 45-43 shootouts are fun to watch (currently the Bengals), but very rarely win championships.

The Colts didnt win a championship until they manned up and brought the D.

I'd like to believe that, but Sperm keeps installing the old s**tty guys as starters instead of letting the young guys take their lumps and grow.

Great. Put him in charge of Player Personnel and hire a Head Coach.

Like who?? Hes gotten rid of most all the dead wood on D that past 2 years.

Well, if I had my way, we'd throw Brodie to the wolves. Sure, maybe we'd go 4-12, but that's alright by me.

They just don't want to be that bad, I guess. Tickets, and all...

I'd give Brodie the Alex Gordon treatment. Play at this level untill you figure it out.

Herm must think he's good at chess. I just don't want to see the roster carnage at the end of the regular season.

Kennison, Parker, and Huard for starters. If you're trying to gel a team for a run next year or the year after you start Croyle, Bowe, and Hannon/Webb/Sippio/SomeOtherGuy. You s**t-can Bell. You don't bring in Donnie Edwards. Law and Surtain? Those guys won't be s**t by the time you're ready to make this run you're talking about.

Agreed, we don't have the players you're going to need to be starting at all of those positions. However, get the role-players in the game and let them get some f**king experience, so when the top talent guys get injured there's some f**king experience coming in off the bench.

"You play to sell the tickets." -- The Chiefs

Why should it be a defensive team? What about having the whole team as one? If the offense can't do anything, the defense/special teams needs to pick it up for the offense.

If the defense can't get it done, then the offense/special teams needs to pick it up for the defense.

Same thing applies to the special teams.

I'm tired of having to rely one side of the goddamn side, where it's much wiser to rely on all the f**king aspects of the f**king sides.

It's called "balance" and unfortunately, we haven't had that kind of balance since 1969.

lol... not true. This forum has a great sense of humor, excluding posts about Herm.

What we all have in common is intense desire, the love of football, levels of dedication and intelligence, and the ability to watch under pressure without exploding to hopefully see our team win. A wicked sense of humor helps.

I don't think it's ok to crush someone's dreams; we've had too many people crush ours.

I wish you all the best. Good luck Sunday!

So what if houston scores 30 on us?

And say the Chiefs score, 21?

Better off, say the Chiefs are losing 30-21 in the 4th quarter?

Are we going to hear "WHOA?" 21 points now, mmmm, geez...that's a lot!

Now THIS makes sense.

Excellent post Coach

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Well this thread is a cluster**** of idiocy.

I should just copy and paste all the posts from my errant repost onto this thread.

And you expected something...different? :p

Man, you should be a coach...

er...never mind...

Of course it's a lot! That is SEVEN field goals!

Geezus, we have a reerun for head coach. Pathetic.

I didn't read this entire thread, so sorry if it's been said, but is Herm saying it's a forgone conclusion that we're only going to score 7 points in the first or second game? I think he should have said "If". Maybe I'm just picky.

Aw jeez. How many years are on his contract? :( :shake:

Wow. Simply, wow.

"Real" football? Maybe Herm and Carl are vying for the approval of the "real" football fans. You know, the people that buy season tickets.

This from Herm's half-brother who coaches track:

If we are confused, imagine being a player or assistant coach...

"You play to score more points than the other team. HELLLLOOOOOO!!!!"

Read the first four sentences of Herm's statement. The offense hasn't scored any TDs yet this year. His point is that they haven't done/shown anything yet. Some of that is due to his "vanilla" play-calling. With Bowe & LJ getting more reps as the season progresses, and with more inventive/creative play-calling, we should see a much different side to this offense (we'd better!).

You'd definitely have to add the Bears to that list. The Dolphins and Steelers were also defensive teams. The Bucs that trashed the Raiders were a defensive team.

I'd say that easily 1/2 the Super Bowl teams were stronger on defense than offense. It's about even.

The big difference is that a great defense can carry a horrible offense but it doesn't work the other way around. Horrible defenses don't win.

By the way, if you watch the video rather than read the transcipt it is perfectly clear he was joking.

So basically this was 300 posts about nothing.

21 points isn't really a lot, I'd say about average.

Here is my problem with the Chiefs. THEY PLAY TO THE LEVEL OF THEIR OPPONENTS!

Trying to keep the game close? What about just trying to kick their ass? Were glad to let turd teams hang around like browns & texans and try and win it in the 4th?

weak

Then I'll be screwed for betting the under....

Well no doubt about it, having a great defense is a bigger advantage than having a great offense.

If you ask me, I'd take a great defense anytime over a great offense.

I think defense does get you to the big game, but, it's clearly proven proven that most of the teams that win superbowls had a solid team balance on both sides of the ball. Yeah certain teams may have been stronger on defense. But their offenses were never horrible either.

Yeah, you have the odd teams that win with dominant defenses and not so good offenses. But it's rare. The only teams that come to my mind are Baltimore(2000), Tampa(2002), Bears(1985).

ROFL

You can have the best D in the world and still lose 7-10. :cuss:

You can have the best O in the world and still lose 38-31. :cuss:

If you listen to the press conference rather than just read the quote, it's pretty funny, actually.

You know he'd be as giddy about the Chiefs scoring 30 as anybody. Come on, people.

if you can listen to him....no i cannot...he makes me nuts.

Herm wants to score points. The Chiefs scored over 30 points five times last season. More than likely, it was an attempt at being somewhat realistic in terms of getting the starting offense to gel the first couple of weeks. Dunn hasn’t played. Macintosh hasn’t played. Johnson hasn’t played. Grigsby hasn’t played. Bowe hasn’t played. Huard didn’t take a lot of snaps. Gonzalez hasn’t played much at all. Boone hasn’t played.

And Herm sold me last season. Football Jesus couldn’t have coached last season’s Chiefs squad into the playoffs, but we still got there. (Much thanks to the Donkies and the most overrated coach in modern sports history for one of the greatest collapses in NFL history.)

The ’07 Chiefs are a completely different team from last season, and the starting day squads are going to be substantially different that anything we saw from the preseason – on both sides of the ball. If Herm was able to take a Jordan “I-65” Black, arthritis filled Will Shields (no negatives about Will, as he was one of the best to ever play his position and a great person and Chief, but his body and performance last season wasn’t up to the same standards he previously set), makeshift FB Wilson, no healthy RB backup, a poor WR corps, and a defense, which actually ended up ranked #10, consisting of starters and contributors like Bell, Kawiffa, Sims, Siavii, et al., this team should win the freaking Superbowl. Seriously. If anyone doesn’t see that this team is substantially better than last seasons, at least on paper, with a substantially upgraded linebacker corps, defensive line, offensive line, more depth at RB, WR, TE, FB, then they are, for lack of a better word, stupid.

I don’t understand the amazing amount of negativity that I’m seeing here this year. We went to playoffs with a real pile of dog crap last season. It’s not like this is Oakland, Detroit, or, god forbid, Denver. (That pile of money you gave Gerrad Warren while letting Trevor Price walk last season sure looks good now doesn’t it Shannahan? And I think the trade for a decent starting right tackle and good running back for a tiny cornerback make sense in a division featuring Larry Johnson/Tony Gonzalez, LT/Antonio Gates…but that’s a completely different thread altogether.)

I’m shocked that there isn’t an over-flowing amount of optimism around here simply based on the fact that we did score points with crap last season, we got to the playoffs with broken, old, ineffective parts and we now have, at least on paper (and it’s all hypothetical anyway since we haven’t played a real game yet), substantially upgraded at every single position with better talent and more depth.

Nice first post, rep! Did it take you 5 months to write all of the that? LMAO Welcome to the Planet Herm!
I want to believe you, I really do. I can't equate inheriting a 10 and 6 team to being a piece of crap though. We were #10 in defense, guess I missed that. Based on what? I am somewhat weak on Herm.

Sir, anything that violates the party policy of pessimism is not allowed here. I am going to have to ask you to leave.

#11. Scoring defense. Nothing major. :rolleyes:

This is CP, that's Football Genious.

It's Reerun, he's retarted.

ROFL

You promised not to tell....

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