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Mecca 01-10-2010 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Unleash_the_Phury (Post 6433066)
Look at it this way: Rodgers spent three years learning under statistically the greatest QB in NFL history. And Favre didn't go out of his way to make things easy; he said when Rodgers was drafted 'I'm not here to babysit Aaron Rodgers'. He made #12 work for his respect, and over the course of three years, it was earned. He received excellent coaching during those three years when he only played a handful of snaps, and wasn't rushed into a situation he wasn't ready for.

Who was he going to learn from in KC? Nobody. He was going to be thrown into the fire at the first available opportunity without the coaching staff correcting the mechanical issues he had coming out of Cal. And then he'd be just as big a disappointment as Alex Smith, if not more so.
So is your post to tell us how we have no hope and even if we'd drafted him he'd suck anyway?

Basileus777 01-10-2010 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6433063)
That post doesn't make much sense, explain how Texas has had SO MANY guys fail then?

Texas players are a risk just because of that program they come from.
Quarerbacks developed by Jeff Tedford are a risk. How else do you explain how many first round QBs groomed by him have failed?

The_Doctor10 01-10-2010 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6433072)
So is your post to tell us how we have no hope and even if we'd drafted him he'd suck anyway?
Partly, but it's mainly to say just drafting Rodgers over DJ wouldn't on its own guarantee success. Do you think Vermeil/Herm would've handled him properly? Because he was the definition of a project; he is not the same QB now as he was when he came out of the draft.

DeezNutz 01-10-2010 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Basileus777 (Post 6433069)
This post is kind of ironic given that Rodgers fell in the draft in part due to his association with Jeff Tedford.

If anything, Rodgers is proof that those kind of stereotypes aren't always right.
Absolutely. Players break the mold.

Just makes that selection a riskier pick, and you need to have both eyes wide open to make that choice.

milkman 01-10-2010 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Basileus777 (Post 6433069)
This post is kind of ironic given that Rodgers fell in the draft in part due to his association with Jeff Tedford.

If anything, Rodgers is proof that those kind of stereotypes aren't always right.
I think what Rogers shows is that a talented QB is a bad college system (by bad, I mean one that doesn't help in th etransition to the pro game) can overcome that system if given time to develop.

The problem is weeding out the less talented from those that do have the talent to succeed.

milkman 01-10-2010 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Unleash_the_Phury (Post 6433080)
Partly, but it's mainly to say just drafting Rodgers over DJ wouldn't on its own guarantee success. Do you think Vermeil/Herm would've handled him properly? Because he was the definition of a project; he is not the same QB now as he was when he came out of the draft.
Given that Green was entrenched as the starter, Rogers would have come ot a perfect situation.

Basileus777 01-10-2010 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6433083)
I think what Rogers shows is that a talented QB is a bad college system (by bad, I mean one that doesn't help in th etransition to the pro game) can overcome that system if given time to develop.

The problem is weeding out the less talented from those that do have the talent to succeed.
I agree. The problem with those players is that those offenses make it so difficult to evualate them. How do you scout a player who doesn't take snaps from center or doesn't have to make NFl quality reads or throws? They aren't going to automatically fail, but those obstacles make it very difficult to evaluate them.

BossChief 01-10-2010 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6433062)
So basically if you want heads, you pick tails?
yeah, basically. Im glad you got the just of it.
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6433063)
That post doesn't make much sense, explain how Texas has had SO MANY guys fail then?

Texas players are a risk just because of that program they come from.
Explain how qbs from Cal and that coaching staff always failed in the NFL.

Same thing.

That is the point of the post.

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Originally Posted by Unleash_the_Phury (Post 6433066)
Look at it this way: Rodgers spent three years learning under statistically the greatest QB in NFL history. And Favre didn't go out of his way to make things easy; he said when Rodgers was drafted 'I'm not here to babysit Aaron Rodgers'. He made #12 work for his respect, and over the course of three years, it was earned. He received excellent coaching during those three years when he only played a handful of snaps, and wasn't rushed into a situation he wasn't ready for.

Who was he going to learn from in KC? Nobody. He was going to be thrown into the fire at the first available opportunity without the coaching staff correcting the mechanical issues he had coming out of Cal. And then he'd be just as big a disappointment as Alex Smith, if not more so.
UMMMM dude, he would have learned from Trent Green/Dick Vermeil and Al Saunders...granted that after that he would have been dropped of a cliff witth Dick Curl and Herm, but that is neither here nor there...remember that Trent could have lasted through 06 and likely 07 if he doesnt get knocked out against Cincy. It may have been the perfect scenario to fall into for him.

Deberg_1990 01-10-2010 09:48 PM
Ive always been of the mindset, a player sucks because he sucks.

There is no "perfect situation" in which to draft a good young QB. If you have a need for one and are in position to make your team better, you do it.

I cant believe alot of Chiefs fans still sit around and wonder why these franchise has suffered for decades?? Shouldnt it be fairly obvious by now?

Mecca 01-10-2010 10:00 PM
In fairness here a lot of the Tedford QB's that failed had other major flags, Akili Smith was a 1 year starter that was also dumb as a box of rocks, Kyle Boller's career completion percentage was under 50%.

The_Doctor10 01-10-2010 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 6433102)
yeah, basically. Im glad you got the just of it.

Explain how qbs from Cal and that coaching staff always failed in the NFL.

Same thing.

That is the point of the post.



UMMMM dude, he would have learned from Trent Green/Dick Vermeil and Al Saunders...granted that after that he would have been dropped of a cliff witth Dick Curl and Herm, but that is neither here nor there...remember that Trent could have lasted through 06 and likely 07 if he doesnt get knocked out against Cincy. It may have been the perfect scenario to fall into for him.
Apologies... It's been so long since anything good has happened to this team, I'd frankly forgotten.

KChiefs1 01-10-2010 10:24 PM
I love threads like these that get bumped.

OnTheWarpath15 01-10-2010 10:26 PM
Every year, the answer becomes even more obvious.

RustShack 01-10-2010 10:27 PM
Derrick Johnson is going to look like a monster when hes lineing up next to Kindle and McClain with Hali and them being aloud to roam free behind our star line of Dorsey, Franklin, and Jackson. Crennel will whip this defense into shape without Herm, Gun, and Krumri here slowing the development.

Deberg_1990 01-10-2010 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 6433188)
Derrick Johnson is going to look like a monster when hes lineing up next to Kindle and McClain with Hali and them being aloud to roam free behind our star line of Dorsey, Franklin, and Jackson. Crennel will whip this defense into shape without Herm, Gun, and Krumri here slowing the development.
I hope your joking? If not.....DJ has been given every chance in the world to break out. Hes played in nearly every type of system now. He is what he is..

RustShack 01-10-2010 10:35 PM
I was mildly joking. But at the same time he was pretty good in limited action this year. I don't think we should get rid of him to get rid of him.. we need to keep him until better players have pushed him off the roster which realistically wont be for a few more years.

ChiefsCountry 01-10-2010 10:37 PM
In 2005, A) I was blind and thought Vermeil would get us a Super Bowl win with a defense and B) Tedford QBs sacred me.

Thig Lyfe 01-10-2010 10:38 PM
No, because then we would have lost to the Cardinals in the playoffs.

Brock 01-10-2010 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by SportsRacer (Post 6433210)
No, because then we would have lost to the Cardinals in the playoffs.
This. Sure, the guy puts up pretty numbers, but....

milkman 01-10-2010 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 6433207)
In 2005, A) I was blind and thought Vermeil would get us a Super Bowl win with a defense and B) Tedford QBs sacred me.
I have hated every coaching hire since Hank Stram was fired, with the exception of Marv Levy.

But of all those hires, Dick is the one I hated the most after Herman ****ing Edwards.


His Chiefs teams performed at about the level I expected.

DeezNutz 01-10-2010 10:42 PM
Why there isn't more hatred around here for Grandpa is a mystery to me.

He and CP were a poisonous mix for the long-term viability of the franchise.

DaWolf 01-10-2010 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6433138)
In fairness here a lot of the Tedford QB's that failed had other major flags, Akili Smith was a 1 year starter that was also dumb as a box of rocks, Kyle Boller's career completion percentage was under 50%.
Teams seem to get blinded by the so called "measurables" like Boller's arm strength. I'm sure scouts were salivating at JaMarcus Russell's raw tools as well...

milkman 01-10-2010 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6433219)
Why there isn't more hatred around here for Grandpa is a mystery to me.

He and CP were a poisonous mix for the long-term viability of the franchise.
Because people can't see beyond the pretty offensive numbers.

milkman 01-10-2010 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by DaWolf (Post 6433222)
Teams seem to get blinded by the so called "measurables" like Boller's arm strength. I'm sure scouts were salivating at JaMarcus Russell's raw tools as well...
In fairness to Al, it's ahrd to see from inside the crypt.

ChiefsCountry 01-10-2010 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6433219)
Why there isn't more hatred around here for Grandpa is a mystery to me.

He and CP were a poisonous mix for the long-term viability of the franchise.
Its bc the offense was pretty during that time.

Basically Dick's years was getting blue balls from a hot chick, while Herm's was getting blue balls from an ugly one. Same result but the hot chick you could brag alittle bit.

RedThat 01-10-2010 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by SportsRacer (Post 6433210)
No, because then we would have lost to the Cardinals in the playoffs.
Meh...He wasn't the reason they lost the game. He played fantastic, Warner was just a bit better.

TigerPig 01-10-2010 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6433219)
Why there isn't more hatred around here for Grandpa is a mystery to me.

He and CP were a poisonous mix for the long-term viability of the franchise.
"In about five years this team is going to be a battered shell void of any talent.. BUT WHO CARES! We're putting up 30 points a game!!!"

*grumbles*

Thig Lyfe 01-10-2010 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 6433302)
Meh...He wasn't the reason they lost the game. He played fantastic, Warner was just a bit better.
http://www.hollow-hill.com/sabina/images/o-rlmente.jpg

BossChief 01-11-2010 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6433215)
I have hated every coaching hire since Hank Stram was fired, with the exception of Marv Levy.

But of all those hires, Dick is the one I hated the most after Herman ****ing Edwards.


His Chiefs teams performed at about the level I expected.
Why did you not like Dick Vermiel?

FloridaMan88 01-11-2010 01:53 AM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6432932)
Any good QB would be much better than Cassel. Does this mean that we'd win more games? Probably, but just a few.

Would the offense be far more productive? Of course. Because when you have a sack of ****ing shit QB, that kind of hampers things. Just like when we had a sack of shit RB, running the ball looked like a lost cause.

Statistically, we have damn near the worst QB in the league. FFS, of course it could be better.
You don't think throwing to the likes of Jennings/Driver, etc. has a major role in Rodgers' success?

How many circus catches did Jennings make in the Arizona game alone today?

Put Rodgers in an offense where he is throwing to the likes of Lance Long, Bobby Wade, Dwayne Bowe, Chris Chambers, etc and a group of WRs that leads the league in dropped passes and he isn't going to look much better than Cassel did this year.

TigerPig 01-11-2010 01:56 AM
In hindsight, yes. But at the time I would have been PISSED OFF if we had taken Aaron Rogers. I remember at around pick 12 when DJ was on the board and the Chargers didn't take them. I was thinking, OMFG he's still there! This can't be! Pick 13, 14 when Carolina was on the board. There was a few routes they could go but they went with an LB and it WASN'T DJ!!! I was sitting there for the next fifteen minutes going... "OH MY GOD THIS IS GOING TO BE SO KICK ASS!"

I have never been happier about a draft pick in my whole life. I know in hindsight this is reeruned, but I seriously thought he could be the next Derrick Brooks. Maybe he still could be under the right situations (which aren't in KC :().

FloridaMan88 01-11-2010 01:56 AM
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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 6433427)
Why did you not like Dick Vermiel?
Because he/she/it is a Herm Edwards professional dick sucker.

FloridaMan88 01-11-2010 02:00 AM
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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 6433235)
Its bc the offense was pretty during that time.

Basically Dick's years was getting blue balls from a hot chick, while Herm's was getting blue balls from an ugly one. Same result but the hot chick you could brag alittle bit.
Vermeil was brought in to win immediately. You don't hire a head coach who is approaching 70 years old and expect that he isn't going to make decisions that are for the short-term and intended to win right away.

And for the record a guy by the name of Jared Allen was drafted under the Vermeil regime... a guy who could have been a cornerstone for the Chiefs rebuilding efforts on defense... a guy who Herm/Dictator Carl traded away in 2008.

BossChief 01-11-2010 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88 (Post 6433480)
Because he/she/it is a Herm Edwards professional dick sucker.
the **** is that supposed to mean?

We were the only team in college or pros that Dick Vermiel didnt take to the championship game that he coached. He was a great coach.

GREAT

Demonpenz 01-11-2010 05:22 AM
there's not much hate from me for grandpa dick because those years were entertaining, and that's why I watch.

BossChief 01-11-2010 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 6433515)
there's not much hate from me for grandpa dick because those years were entertaining, and that's why I watch.
those years were very maddenesque

Or tecmobowlesque for those of us from that generation

DeezNutz 01-11-2010 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 6433500)
the **** is that supposed to mean?

We were the only team in college or pros that Dick Vermiel didnt take to the championship game that he coached. He was a great coach.

GREAT
Grandpa can coach. No doubt.

But the push to win now and his complete inability to draft--and, yes, Grandpa was running the show almost entirely when he was in town, LJ aside--absolutely killed this franchise.

This organization would likely be exponentially better off had DV never come to town.

Funny that Herm gets the majority of the criticism around here. His plan to build a team was 100 percent correct. The problem was that he wasn't (and isn't) up to the challenge.

HemiEd 01-11-2010 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 6433515)
there's not much hate from me for grandpa dick because those years were entertaining, and that's why I watch.
Exactly. And furthermore, he tried to do what he was brought in to do, WIN NOW. That was the plan, and it was made very clear.

He really didn't want to come out of retirement, but Carl talked him into it. All the blame, should rest squarely on Carl Peterson's shoulders, not DVs.

Chiefnj2 01-11-2010 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6433668)

But the push to win now absolutely killed this franchise.

This organization would likely be exponentially better off had DV never come to town.
His job was to win now. Plus, it's been 4 years since he's left. Plenty of time to rebuild had it been done properly.

DeezNutz 01-11-2010 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 6433694)
His job was to win now. Plus, it's been 4 years since he's left. Plenty of time to rebuild had it been done properly.
Thus my comment that he and CP were a poisonous combination.

Plenty of time? Sure, but we truly started rebuilding in '08 (thanks, Carl) and had a fantastic draft. The new regime and the new direction, however, undermined any of that potential progress, as we started over again.

King_Chief_Fan 01-11-2010 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by TigerPig (Post 6433317)
"In about five years this team is going to be a battered shell void of any talent.. BUT WHO CARES! We're putting up 30 points a game!!!"

*grumbles*
that is different than the last couple how?

TheGuardian 01-11-2010 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6433668)
Grandpa can coach. No doubt.

But the push to win now and his complete inability to draft--and, yes, Grandpa was running the show almost entirely when he was in town, LJ aside--absolutely killed this franchise.

This organization would likely be exponentially better off had DV never come to town.

Funny that Herm gets the majority of the criticism around here. His plan to build a team was 100 percent correct. The problem was that he wasn't (and isn't) up to the challenge.
I agree. Vermiel is a good coach but he basically set the Chiefs back for a decade with his piss poor drafting and giving up of picks for players who wouldn't be here very long in order to win now. I will at least give Herm credit for trying to build through the draft. What'd you like to see is a Herm ran draft with Dickie coaching the team. The problem is, Dick did not really like rookies and young players a lot. Not at that stage in his career. He was too impatient when he got here. Not that I can blame him having to deal with the likes of Tony Banks and Lawrence Phillips.

DeezNutz 01-11-2010 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 6433728)
I agree. Vermiel is a good coach but he basically set the Chiefs back for a decade with his piss poor drafting and giving up of picks for players who wouldn't be here very long in order to win now. I will at least give Herm credit for trying to build through the draft. What'd you like to see is a Herm ran draft with Dickie coaching the team. The problem is, Dick did not really like rookies and young players a lot. Not at that stage in his career. He was too impatient when he got here. Not that I can blame him having to deal with the likes of Tony Banks and Lawrence Phillips.
And coaches.

The Chiefs started mortgaging the future just to get Grandpa in the first place, giving up multiple day one picks. Anyone who was excited about this was being ridiculously shortsighted.

The truth is, the owner never should have allowed CP to give up that kind of compensation for a coach.

chiefsfan1963 01-11-2010 12:07 PM
Is this a trick question?
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milkman 01-11-2010 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88 (Post 6433480)
Because he/she/it is a Herm Edwards professional dick sucker.
JFC dude, how many times do I have to tell your dumb ass that I ****ing hated Herman ****ing Edwards?

I hated his dumb ass when he was the Jets coach, and I sure as hell never wanted his dumb ass as the Chiefs coach.

About the only person with less intelligence on the planet than Herman ****ing Edwards is you.

milkman 01-11-2010 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 6433427)
Why did you not like Dick Vermiel?
Many of the moves that the Rams made to assemble a staff and the talent to win the SB were forced on him.

Dick had become to soft and loyal, and given the kind of authority that Carl gives his head coaches, I never had any confidence that he would get the job done.

In the end, I was right.

googlegoogle 01-12-2010 12:28 AM
Aron Rodgers is Buck Rodgers. I love Buck Rodgers. (first few seasons).

So yes, we should have taken him! And Arron Gray!

BossChief 01-12-2010 12:51 AM
If we had signed a couple players to help get the defense to respectability (Javon Kearse when he was on the market, Ty Law 05)

TigerPig 01-12-2010 01:07 AM
Yes, we should have gotten Rogers, and Freeney instead of Sims. And Bob Sanders instead of Junior, and... :)

Deberg_1990 08-26-2010 06:28 PM
Bump... :)

Bill Lundberg 08-26-2010 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by dorseybowe (Post 4908503)
Rodgers hasn't proved he can play.
I nearly flipped my lid when reading this. Then I looked at the post date...

Deberg_1990 08-26-2010 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Bill Lundberg (Post 6956749)
I nearly flipped my lid when reading this. Then I looked at the post date...
heh, this one is funny:


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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 4908520)
NO. DJ is primed to come into his own this year. I have no problems with him being the pick.

Pasta Little Brioni 08-26-2010 07:01 PM
If you felt that way on draft day that year I'd be more impressed ;)

ArrowheadHawk 08-26-2010 07:02 PM
Hind sight is always 20-20
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Deberg_1990 08-26-2010 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 6956756)
If you felt that way on draft day that year I'd be more impressed ;)
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Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk (Post 6956758)
Hind sight is always 20-20
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I might have....i remember wanting him when he was sitting there and we passed. Honestly.....I dont feel like searching for the 05 draft thread though...

siberian khatru 08-26-2010 07:10 PM
I was thrilled to get DJ on draft day.

Siberian with the whiiiiiffff ...

Deberg_1990 08-26-2010 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 6956777)
I was thrilled to get DJ on draft day.
I wasnt disappointed at the time.....but when i saw Rodgers drop, i did want the Chiefs to snag him.....oh well...thats life as a Chiefs fan right?

OnTheWarpath15 08-26-2010 07:18 PM
This thread makes me nauseous.

DaneMcCloud 08-26-2010 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk (Post 6956758)
Hind sight is always 20-20
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Go **** yourself with a ****ing Arctic glacier

CaliforniaChief 08-26-2010 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6956902)
Go **** yourself with a ****ing Arctic glacier
That insult is empty./Al Gore

Ebolapox 08-26-2010 08:25 PM
I was glad to have gotten DJ, but there was a part of me that wanted us to draft rodgers. the only thing that scared me is that every other of tedford's proteges had failed miserably. in that, rodgers has bucked the odds.

boogblaster 08-26-2010 08:31 PM
nope

Deberg_1990 01-16-2011 03:04 PM
So the consenses is yes then?
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-King- 01-16-2011 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 7360570)
So the consenses is yes then?
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We should have also drafted Tom Brady in the first 5 rounds of the 2000 draft.

BillSelfsTrophycase 01-16-2011 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 7360570)
So the consenses is yes then?
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Yep, franchise QB>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>franchise ILB

Red Dawg 01-16-2011 04:09 PM
Hell yes

CupidStunt 01-16-2011 04:11 PM
This idiot STILL bumps this stupid thread? LMAO

"Should the Chiefs have drafted Joe Montana instead of Mike Bell?"

Stanley Nickels 01-16-2011 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 7360587)
We should have also drafted Tom Brady in the first 5 rounds of the 2000 draft.
This, a million times this. We and 20-something other teams could've drafted Rodgers.

KChiefs1 01-16-2011 04:46 PM
Yeah I think Rodgers would have been the better choice.

BigRedChief 01-16-2011 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 7360570)
So the consenses is yes then?
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In hindsight?? of course. But, the "consesus" before draft day was that DJ was a top 5 pick. Rodgers was a big ? mark. We needed help on D badly. I don't blame King Carl for this pick.

FloridaMan88 01-16-2011 04:55 PM
Rodgers is playing at a high level now, but he has a shitload of talent around him in the Green Bay passing game.

Put him in the Chiefs offense and he'd be better than Cassel, but wouldn't be putting up the #'s he's putting up in Green Bay.

Bowser 01-16-2011 05:13 PM
:facepalm:

58kcfan89 01-16-2011 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 7361066)
In hindsight?? of course. But, the "consesus" before draft day was that DJ was a top 5 pick. Rodgers was a big ? mark. We needed help on D badly. I don't blame King Carl for this pick.
This. It helps the sting that DJ has finally (FINALLY) lived up to the hype but Rodgers would obviously be an upgrade at the more important position...

BigMeatballDave 01-16-2011 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88 (Post 7361101)
Rodgers is playing at a high level now, but he has a shitload of talent around him in the Green Bay passing game.

Put him in the Chiefs offense and he'd be better than Cassel, but wouldn't be putting up the #'s he's putting up in Green Bay.
What is so special about Rodgers, is he doing this without a running game. EVERYONE knows he is slinging it, but cannot stop it.

mcaj22 01-16-2011 05:35 PM
wheres the Should the Chiefs have drafted Mark Sanchez over Tyson Jackson thread also?

keg in kc 01-16-2011 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 7361311)
wheres the Should the Chiefs have drafted Mark Sanchez over Tyson Jackson thread also?
I'd rather see a Should the Chiefs have drafted BJ Raji over Tyson Jackson thread myself.

Chiefshrink 01-16-2011 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 7361315)
I'd rather see a Should the Chiefs have drafted BJ Raji over Tyson Jackson thread myself.
Start it big dog. I'll back that move and most of the board would agree:thumb:

DaneMcCloud 01-16-2011 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 7361315)
I'd rather see a Should the Chiefs have drafted BJ Raji over Tyson Jackson thread myself.
I prefer the "Should the have drafted Darnell Alford or Tom Brady" thread.

keg in kc 01-16-2011 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 7361531)
I prefer the "Should the have drafted Darnell Alford or Tom Brady" thread.
Heh.

Shit, we could probably pick a QB on the board from every draft in the last 15 years.

The Bad Guy 01-16-2011 06:39 PM
Anyone saying his receivers make him are ****ing so stupid I can't even believe it.


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