Seriously I hope Cassel is good I don't want the team to blow, but at the same time I do not want this double standard defense.

Numerous people said he was a better option than Sanchez because of experience not being a rookie etc etc etc, so when he ****s up don't tell me he's inexperienced you can't play both sides.

He'll fail! Arrowhead stadium will burn down its all over. 1 game in which the team with no talent and the QB with a sprained knee puts up 400 yards. FAIL

Now...as a 24 year old still a semester short from a degree...I'd be willing to bet the small amount of money I have that you have no college education whatsoever...

Now, as a 24 year old who will use his degree for JACK SHIT...I'm not saying college is important (unless you want to be a doctor/lawyer/etc...) but it's just funny a dude that probably makes $28,000 a year is calling me uneducated.

If I were a full time waiter in Chicago...I'd probably make twice as much money as you make in a year.

Food for thought, buddy ROFL

Sanchez would have sucked with the Chiefs too.

I don't care that they lost the game, I care that he made a couple of bonehead rookie mistakes.

How can you defend his decision making, against the ****ing Raiders of all teams he'll play.

I agree completely.

The two interceptions and the check-down were inexcusable.

I want Cassel to be good too. But let's be serious here, or you can be frank, or whoever. You'd much rather be right than any of the other options. Don't be coy.

I think he might have a little better supporting cast...but hey, what do I know?

Either way...I'm sure of Sanchez was starting right now Whitlock would still be writing the same columns blah blah blah blah blah...

Or it would be like..."see we knew he didn't have enough college experience!"

So predictable.

Lets play "guess the week 3 headlines!" after we lose @ philly against a far superior team in another "hostile" environment.

He also put the team ahead with 1 minute left but you left that out of your argument too.

You are so full of shit, Dane.

If the Chiefs had went out and gotten a rookie QB and started a ton of rookies and younger guys with upside, I wouldnt be bitching about them sucking bc its expected. But if you go out and sign a ton of old vets, trade for a QB who should be ready to go, then you better produce IMO.

I'm not defending those plays but to write him off after 1 game is moronic. True or False: The team put up over 400 yards of offense?

True or False: Cassel was able to lead to Chiefs to a TD that should have sealed the game.

at least we didn't trade a 2nd for Culpepper when we could have signed Brees for free...

If you really think I put in all this time in watching games and talking about the team I want them to suck, you're wrong.

Do I like Mark Sanchez, I do, does that mean I want Cassel to suck no it doesn't. I'd rather they both be good actually.

My simple point though was that numerous people went to experience being behind Brady all of that. He's 27 etc etc, when Cassel makes a rookie mistake you can't say well he hasn't played much because that undercuts the very same argument that was made for him some months ago.

If I wanted a guy who was learning how to be a QB I'd want the guy who's 22 with the top notch talent not the guy who's 27.

we signed a ton of old vets?

who?

we have Mike Goff and Bobby Engram...

and we traded Tony Gonzalez...

ROFL

Jesus.

so...

Sanchez or Stafford?

That's how I look at it, the Chiefs made a bunch of "we're gonna be better right now moves"

I like Sanchez more than Stafford I think everyone knows that.

Wait...

So if we had the #1 pick...you would have taken Sanchez?

Forgetting about Mike Brown, Mike Vrabel, Monty Beisel, Amani Toomer, Ashley Leilie...

Probably.

Dude who gives a **** the draft was in april it is what it is. I'm not interested in the " I TOLD YOU SO" Like Hootie will play next time hes picked on.

See, you've just demonstrated my point for me. You're equating knowledge with money.

is this a new development?

All we heard all season was Stafford this, Stafford that...

two weeks in and now Sanchez is the franchise?

Hmm...

See I told you this guy has no ****ing valid points just "I told you so" except he didn't tell you anything cuz hes a ****ing moron.

I am pretty jealous of Hootie's blowjob harem...

I can't even get a 2nd date.

Sanchez vs Stafford would have been a tough one for me. Sanchez reminds me so much of Aikman, but Stafford has Elway's physical tools. Its kind of hard to pass up Elway for Aikman. Glad I didnt have to make the call.

They were 1a and 1b it was what you preferred. I figured everyone knew I was a big Sanchez guy. Stafford has a bigger arm but Sanchez does all of the little things correctly and has a better "it" factor which is very important to the position.

I said on here Stafford sucked and people said shit about it

No, I'm saying you calling me uneducated is rich. You are a lackey...you are a cyst on society. You serve no purpose...and you never will. Not on this board, not in real life.

Sucks dude...I'm fortunate to have been born with potential...I've realized over my years that not everyone gets hit with that stick. Thanks mom and dad!

Against The Raiders



Their's the counterpoint concerning how he lost the game too by that dumb decision at the end of the 1st half.

Who is Egoli?


Jason Whitlock talks about Haley's connection to Parcells -- Did he ever use column space to examine both Parcells' and Haley's relationship? Just curious

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That was a stupid throw, a stupid play call, and honestly if Savage was a heads up player he would have knocked the ball down. but your point is valid.

You also said that Thigpen was better than Big Ben.

Stafford is a very very high level prospect he'd be a top 5 pick basically every single year. He just isn't very polished, his footwork gets sloppy but he has a giant arm and makes some throws that make you gasp.

Sanchez doesn't have that kind of arm but his mechanics are flawless, he had better feet than half the NFL before he ever stepped on an NFL field.

Stafford's upside is bigger but he needs more coaching, Sanchez is a guy who gets "it" and does everything to a T.

I have refined my game to near perfection (with 19 year olds) over the years...

I'm still working on how to deal with actual intelligent girls or girls near my age...those are hit or miss.

The college freshmen...those are easy (and the best)...so until I hit that "creepy" age, I'm set...as soon as I start looking older than a 22 year old...I'll need to refine my game. When girls ask how old I am...I'm 22...24 at a campus bar is just too creepy.

Cassel didn't have a good game sunday. Hell, he might be like trent green and have a crumby year because his line and receivers suck.

And, DV's trade for Green wasn't why DV's tenure failed. The problem was the drafts. DV actually had an incredible 2 yeah run of offensive talent acquistion: in 2001 and 2002, the Chiefs acquired Priest Holmes, Casey Weigman, Trent Green, Eddie Kennison, Willie Roaf and Johnnie Morton. The only real bust was Morton, and he wasn't entirely useless as a #2. The other 5 were terrific acquistions.

Adding those 5 to 4 pro bowlers already in place (waters, shields, gonzo, Richardson) + the useful Tait and you had a killer offense.

Vermeil tried to draft a young D, and those picks were utter failures. If we had had even reasonable defensive talent evalution between 01 and 04, DV would have won a super bowl.

Heck, if CP had taken either John Henderson or Dwight Freeney at 6 instead of Ryan Sims, it might have been enough.

Savage probably trusted his quarterback wouldn't throw him the ball with a defender bearing down.

I'd like to see some of the early mecca posts when sanchez first declared...

He was ga ga over Stafford and now that Sanchez is 2-0 and Stafford has looked miserable, he suddenly would have taken Sanchez #1 the whole time...

Seems a bit off to me.

That's probably my problem.

I haven't gone out with a dumb ****.

I think one is waiting for me, though. One texted me the other night and said "you're too hot to be alone!"

I sense the dumb****ness is strong with this one.

haha you believed that?

It's Detroit so I figured they'd ruin him. Fair assumption hiring a defensive coach who plays zone and Gunther Cunnigham.

I don't know if you remember this or not, but when the first wave of vets came in, someone posted the KC Star article saying as much, and then added their own little tag at the end which read:

"Pioli wants to win now"!

I don't know about you, but my first reaction to that shit was, "Uh-Oh".

I didn't talk about Sanchez much at all during the season because I didn't think he'd declare, you can find numerous posts where I say I didn't think he'd come out.

I don't want a relationship until I'm 30...

So to avoid slipping into one, I only deal with pretty dumb girls...most of them are awesome in bed, most of them have little self-esteem, and since I show no interest and am usually a complete asshole they always answer my drunk calls.

Win-win for me, lose-lose for them.

Nothing like establishing my male dominance all over their faces.

billay makes ROR look like Hamas Jenkins.

he's a ****ing moron

In all honesty, he never said much about Sanchez at all. If he did it was just the usally USC pile on. But most of the Stafford talk was during the season, when nobody though Sanchez would declare. After it was pretty much a no brainer that Stafford was going #1, all the talk about him just disappered for some odd reason.

I like how I can disagree with Dane & Mecca now without eachother calling names. It's funny usually the ones who have nothing to add from a football prospective are the ones who are name calling.

In the end the fact remains if you were wanting to draft a QB it was Stafford/Sanchez because the next couple of classes are not very inspiring unless you're a big Jimmy Clausen fan.

Neither do I.

I just want a girl to go to movies with, have dinner with, and **** (cuddling is OK, too, I'm not a complete jerk). If she wants I'll be her "date" to her stupid social events. Good excuse to leer at her dressed up and pretend like I matter.

I envy you.

Okay then. How about "educated, cocksucking bag o' dicks"?

It's got a nice ring, yes? You could run for Mayor on that platform I think!

The whole Clausen family peaked in high school.

No thanks heres where Pioli works his brilliance and drafts a QB in the late rounds. Nah but really next draft if I were Pioli I'd draft a guy like Suh or Cody maybe Benn. 2nd round I draft a center.

Grow a pair and go after cougars. They are way more fun that dumb ass freshman girls.

He's probably going to be a high pick, he's one of the few talented QB's that's playing in a proper offense.

Then after that you got Matt Barkley in 3 or 4 years, the college spread fixation makes finding a QB harder it's why when you have the shot you can't pass.

You haven't watched him play this year thats obvious.

Why the **** am I surprised by this?ROFL

It won't matter how brilliant he is if Cassel bombs we'll never win anything.

you should just get a job at a ****ing restaurant (as a waiter/or a bartender)...

I, sadly, have really good people skills (all a front) and it's just...pussy galore. I've had sex with so many people I've worked with over the past 5 years...and always start with a young hostess...because then all of the waitresses get jealous and try to one up her and once the girls start gossiping about so and so ****ing you you can pretty much zig and zag your way through the whole staff...and the turnover rate is ridiculous so there are always more coming through...

Cassel wont bomb. Even if you judge him off 1 game he didnt play like Jamarcus Russell.

I have terrible people skills. I've asked one girl out in person.

I can't deal with that level of interaction, with that many strangers. I'd be a wreck.

Basically I hate people.

Maybe I could be the busboy with the huge dick. That'd be worth some gossip.

uh, you shouldn't be...that's the ****ing point, moron.

The smart ones know to stay away from assholes like me that are looking for nothing more than infiltrating their wet hole for a night...

You'll never see me in any friend zone like our resident pussy-whipped halfcan...

Ok being as bad as Russell is a bit extreme he can be a bomb and not be THAT bad. The Chiefs picked this guy to be their franchise QB, they chose him ahead of a young QB in the draft.

He has to atleast be a top 10 QB or this trade is very blah.

Agreed but according to the KC media Cassel played like JaMarcus Russell. If only the Royals were held to the same standards as the Chiefs there wouldn't be any baseball in Kansas City. Too bad.

My God; you pull so much tail we should all chip in and buy you a "Huggy Bear" pimp suit! ROFL

Raised On Riots, Baby Got Grbac ****s alot of bitches in the el camino

Dude...I don't think I've EVER asked a girl out...I don't even know what that means...I guess when I was in high school I used to get a lot of puss by pushing the limits on AIM...but asking a girl out? Whaaaat?

I also randomly just hook up with chicks at a bar...that's more myth than anything...some guys can do it...but the majority can't...

I hook up with girls I have interactions with...mostly at work or girls I knew in high school...(from a younger class, of course)...

Way back when...when I was 19 and fresh out of high school and a freshmen at ISU...I got my first job at a restaurant and was scared to death of interacting with "strangers"...but jesus christ, I wouldn't trade that job for anything in the world at this point...

Every college kid should work at a restaurant...you learn SO MUCH about people it's crazy...best job I'll ever have.

I hold him to a certain standard, like I said he's not a rookie, he's not 22. When he makes a boneheaded rookie move he should be shredded for it, that was the entire premise that was used as to why he was better to have than a draft pick.

He should be held to the same standard any other 27 year old QB should especially with his contract and him being the hand picked choice of our team.

Lets for one minute pretend you actual come off as intelligent or not completely worthless on this board.

and then lets pretend that I come off (and I might) as a complete idiot/douche bag/dick sucker/Jesus hater/etc. etc. etc. on this board.

I will still take me over you and really, if you had the same chance...I'm sure you would also take me over you...but save some face and don't admit that...

Understandable that play was stupid. I wasn't too pissed because to be honest the Nebraska game pissed me off and I figured the Chiefs would **** up aginst the Raiders thats how its been the past few years. If the Chiefs were more competitive I would have been pissed.

Well, Hamas wants to be serious, so let's be serious.. {serious face}

I fully agree. You don't spend as much time as you have telling everyone they're stupid and you are right unless you really, really want to see that happen. It's been a non-stop barrage for months, ever since Cassel was brought in via trade. The same group of people have been throwing a fit, 1000's of posts at a time.

And you can't say this stuff because then it becomes a dance about how everyone picks on this person or that person and it's a giant passive aggressive thing. It's exactly like the scene in Good Will Hunting where Robin Williams sits down with Matt Damon at the lake and hits him in the face with reality. I mean I can sit here and banter and argue and joke with you guys, I have fun with it. It's so easy to be passive aggressive and get people riled up using their own tactics, it's all just part of the banter. But either you're running this all as a big joke, which is fine, or you truly would rather be right than anything else. You don't sit here and spend all this time trying to make everyone else look stupid and talking down to them, and do it under the guise of "oh that's how we roll". It's dumb, you aren't proving anything.

But it's pointless to even start to talk about this stuff because like everything else on here anymore, serious discussion turns into deflecting points and people not willing to stand up for the BS they spew. And that's why this place sucks anymore and I just don't care. But times change and that's just how it goes. It's not my cup of tea. I'd like to have real discussion about things. But that doesn't happen. You all sit here and bicker about who's right. We used to sit here and fight like cats and dogs about Trent Green his first season, and it wasn't like this crap.

That's as "real" as I'm going to get about any of that stuff. Because none of you guys wants to be "real", you want to be right. And you can't argue with someone who thinks they know everything. So let's resume the usual 1000 posts of BS.

{unserious face again}

I thought I was the douchebag Jesus hater, are you stealing my gimmick?

Can we take a moment to answer my questions?

Thanks in advance




And to all a good night!

If you were a hot dog would you eat yourself?

I was raised to be too nice and too proper.

talking chiefs football brings out the worst in me...

it's the only thing that makes me angry

I don't think I'm proud of that, either

How am I not being real though?

Honestly ask me what you want to know and I'll 100% answer the question. I come off the way I do about some players because I absolutely will not waffle my stance because a guy puts an Arrowhead on his helmet. If I didn't like him before he was on the Chiefs it won't change because he's on the team now.

you remind me of someone who would see every Tyler Perry movie in theaters...and laugh.

Egoli is Whitlocks butthurt name for Scott Pioli. He says Pioli has an ego cuz Pioli doesn't talk to the media.


I don't know I don't read a whole Jason Whitlock article.