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dirk digler 10-17-2010 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 7098357)
You remember incorrectly.

There was nothing wrong with the route. Cassel overthrew him badly.

I like our chances a lot more if we're sitting 1st down at Houston's 40 with 20 seconds and a time out left.

Cassel overthrew him but your timing is off

We got the ball at our 39 with 22 seconds left.

The first short incomplete pass to Bowe left us with 18 seconds

The incomplete pass to Horne left us with 13 seconds

We ended up on their 38 with 4 seconds left and everyone's hero Barry Richardson completely whiffed on his block

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  1. (:22) (Shotgun) 7-M.Cassel pass incomplete short middle to 82-D.Bowe.
  2. 2-10-KC 39 (:18) (Shotgun) 7-M.Cassel pass incomplete deep left to 11-J.Horne.
  3. 3-10-KC 39 (:13) (Shotgun) 7-M.Cassel pass short middle to 25-J.Charles to HST 38 for 23 yards (31-B.Pollard).
  4. Timeout #3 by KC at 00:04.
  5. 1-10-HOU 38 (:04) (Shotgun) 7-M.Cassel sacked at 50 for -12 yards (91-A.Okoye).


milkman 10-17-2010 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 7098364)
easy to do when you aren't getting pressure on the QB.

where was Hali? I know lenny mentioned the lack of pressure on schaub thorughout the game.

The Texans did a great job of scheming to force Hali to fight through traffic on every single snap.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 10-17-2010 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 7098370)
He was wide ****ing open and Cassel threw the ball 4 foot above his head.

I'll have to see the tv replay...Didn't look as overthrown as some describe. Again...I hate Cassel.

Still think Horne ducked up and has to adjust to a ball thrown to a spot.

FAX 10-17-2010 07:22 PM

The Vixens' offense is really damn good. They have weapons and they're not afraid to use them. Plus, their offensive line never holds an opposing player. Ever. Not even on runs to the left that gain 20 yards.

Although, for our part, we shouldn't forget just how abysmal the Vixens' secondary and overall pass defense has been. One would expect some success against those guys.

But, so far as I'm concerned, Mutt Cassblow is not off the hook. The word Lenny used today was "composure" ... sadly, Cassclump remains a little light in that department.

I do have to say, however ... in all fairness ... that he did a good job in certain situations today ... a couple of really nice throws and a couple of good decisions. Just enough to make you want to believe in fairies and the little brownie man who lives in the woodpile ...

FAX

BigMeatballDave 10-17-2010 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 7098364)
easy to do when you aren't getting pressure on the QB.

where was Hali? I know lenny mentioned the lack of pressure on schaub thorughout the game.

Held most of the time it seemed. Doubled.

Silock 10-17-2010 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by KC kid (Post 7097946)
People make too much a fuss about what Cassel makes. There are lots of highly paid players on that D that choked the game away. People just can't stand Cassel because of personal prejudice and do not even WANT to see him succeed

Bullshit. I want him to succeed. Everyone does.

We just know he can't because he sucks.

DaneMcCloud 10-17-2010 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemon_Pie (Post 7098396)
I'll have to see the tv replay...Didn't look as overthrown as some describe. Again...I hate Cassel.

Still think Horne ducked up and has to adjust to a ball thrown to a spot.

How can you adjust to a ball that's thrown four foot over your head?

DeezNutz 10-17-2010 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BCD (Post 7098400)
Held most of the time it seemed.

We need to move past this excuse.

FAX 10-17-2010 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 7098364)
easy to do when you aren't getting pressure on the QB.

where was Hali? I know lenny mentioned the lack of pressure on schaub thorughout the game.

It has become a weary, old tune, Mr. stevieray, but Hali was grabbed everywhere but on the ass today ... and that's only because his ass is so tight.

Our defense stepped in it today, though. I was surprised that we didn't blitz more often. Come with the corner or safety or somebody, maybe. I trust Romeo, though. I'm sure he had his reasons.

This was a game that, in my mind, was similar in many ways to the Mannings game ... we're playing tough on the road and coming up just a tad short. But overall, I'm encouraged and know that, we could have emerged victorious with a single pick or fumble recovery ... and Flowers almost gave it to us.

We're getting better ... and fast. This team is real and they don't like losing anymore.

FAX

FAX 10-17-2010 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 7098419)
We need to move past this excuse.

I don't see it as an "excuse" though, Mr. DeezNutz. It is what it is.

Regardless of the reasons, though, if Hali can't get to the enemy QB, we need to give him some help. I would gladly suit up and, if necessary, start grabbing junk, by God.

FAX

stevieray 10-17-2010 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 7098423)
It has become a weary, old tune, Mr. stevieray, but Hali was grabbed everywhere but on the ass today ... and that's only because his ass is so tight.

Our defense stepped in it today, though. I was surprised that we didn't blitz more often. Come with the corner or safety or somebody, maybe. I trust Romeo, though. I'm sure he had his reasons.

This was a game that, in my mind, was similar in many ways to the Mannings game ... we're playing tough on the road and coming up just a tad short. But overall, I'm encouraged and know that, we could have emerged victorious with a single pick or fumble recovery ... and Flowers almost gave it to us.

We're getting better ... and fast. This team is real and they don't like losing anymore.

FAX

I hear ya, man.

BigMeatballDave 10-17-2010 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 7098419)
We need to move past this excuse.

I wasnt making an excuse for the loss, but I was stating a fact. He was held. On several occasions.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 10-17-2010 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 7098416)
How can you adjust to a ball that's thrown four foot over your head?

**** off.

FAX 10-17-2010 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by KC kid (Post 7097946)
People make too much a fuss about what Cassel makes. There are lots of highly paid players on that D that choked the game away. People just can't stand Cassel because of personal prejudice and do not even WANT to see him succeed

And there's the rub, Mr. KC kid.

Casscan has lost my support. I was very much in favor of him becoming a successful quarterback for a long time ... most of last season, in fact. And, even today, were he to douse himself with magic splooge and somehow transform himself into a true, dependable, reliable, consistent QB, I'd support him again. I just don't believe it's possible anymore.

So, speaking for myself, I'm kinda stuck. I'd like him to perform better, yet I fear that, were he to do so, he would remain our quarterback and we would forestall the decision to improve at that position. That's the problem.

FAX

DeezNutz 10-17-2010 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BCD (Post 7098438)
I wasnt making an excuse for the loss, but I was stating a fact. He was held. On several occasions.

I know you weren't. What I am saying, though, is that it's my belief that fans of every team with a decent pass rusher post the same thing.

"___ was held all game!"

It's not as if the league has some extra special vendetta against Hali. Unless, of course, the commissioner wishes to see FAX grab sacks.

stevieray 10-17-2010 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 7098450)
And there's the rub, Mr. KC kid.

Casscan has lost my support. I was very much in favor of him becoming a successful quarterback for a long time ... most of last season, in fact. And, even today, were he to douse himself with magic splooge and somehow transform himself into a true, dependable, reliable, consistent QB, I'd support him again. I just don't believe it's possible anymore.

So, speaking for myself, I'm kinda stuck. I'd like him to perform better, yet I fear that, were he to do so, he would remain our quarterback and we would forestall the decision to improve at that position. That's the problem.

FAX

understandable...we keep hearing haley tell us that we are still in the process of buliding a really solid foundation. i don't think anyone expected the defense to rise so quickly, hence unrealistic expectations. i'm wondering if haley and company didn't expect him burn barns right off the bat, andare bringing him along with the team, and they all explode close to the same time.

Chiefshrink 10-17-2010 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7096945)
If you are going to take something from Bowe’s performance today, it should be how he responded to adversity. I hope that the people who wanted him run out of town today feel a little foolish, because he is still a game
changing receiving weapon, and he made a number of very difficult catches. He made 3 really good grabs today, and another circus catch that would have been a top 10 highlight had Cassel not lead him out of bounds.

Don't feel one bit foolish because we have seen this same scenario from Bowe before and we need a "consistent" Big Time No.1 receiver PERIOD. You watch Bowe will break our hearts several more times this yr. :rolleyes:

DaneMcCloud 10-17-2010 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemon_Pie (Post 7098439)
**** off.

Wow, nice response.

:shake:

FAX 10-17-2010 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 7098479)
understandable...we keep hearing haley tell us that we are still in the process of buliding a really solid foundation. i don't think anyone expected the defense to rise so quickly, hence unrealistic expectations. i'm wondering if haley and company didn't expect him burn barns right off the bat, andare bringing him along with the team, and they all explode close to the same time.

To your point, I keep telling myself that Mule Casspinch lacks game experience and that, ultimately, he'll grow into his role and responsibilities. My sadness is fostered by the fact that I see him playing, essentially, the same way game in, game out.

At this juncture, I don't think it's too early to declare him a class-A neuron. I have to admit, though, I'm torn. I'd like to see our passing game take off like a bat out of hell rather than a dead rat falling on its ass from a balcony railing. On the other hand, I'm pretty convinced that, the more time we spend waiting for Cassclap to "explode" is time we could put to better use by jamming french fries up our nose.

I do, however, agree that we may be well ahead of schedule overall ... in terms of the "rebuild", I mean. It could well be that the improvement we thought we saw in our defense is real. The Vixens are a damn good offense and can put up a ton of points in a short time and they seem to prefer doing it in the second half of games ... as we saw today. This was no slouch offense that defeated us today. Not by a long shot.

FAX

Hootie 10-17-2010 08:30 PM

Let me preface this by saying...

I probably can never go back to the bar where I go to watch football games...

That's how I responded to this loss.

Now...

This game wasn't Matt Cassel...for one time in his Chiefs career he looked good...and he had full command of the offense and he displayed some confidence...

He could have done better...but he didn't.

The defense was built up as some juggernaut that it wasn't today...plain and simple.

And that's why we lost.

Now I'm logging out.

Bye,

Hootie 10-17-2010 08:31 PM

Let me preface this by saying...

I probably can never go back to the bar where I go to watch football games...

That's how I responded to this loss.

Now...

This game wasn't Matt Cassel...for one time in his Chiefs career he looked good...and he had full command of the offense and he displayed some confidence...

He could have done better...but he didn't.

The defense was built up as some juggernaut that it wasn't today...plain and simple.

And that's why we lost.

Now I'm logging out.

Bye,

Hammock Parties 10-17-2010 08:52 PM

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He could have done better...but he didn't.
So, just like every other game he's played?

Silock 10-17-2010 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 7098553)
So, just like every other game he's played?

Truth.

chiefzilla1501 10-17-2010 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemon_Pie (Post 7098439)
**** off.

Dane's right. Matt Cassel leads his receiver, and Moeaki is wide the **** open. Instead, he lobs the ball over the head of a receiver who has inside positioning. That's asking a lot of your receiver.

It was the right read, but a horrible pass.

chiefzilla1501 10-17-2010 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon (Post 7098547)
Let me preface this by saying...

I probably can never go back to the bar where I go to watch football games...

That's how I responded to this loss.

Now...

This game wasn't Matt Cassel...for one time in his Chiefs career he looked good...and he had full command of the offense and he displayed some confidence...

He could have done better...but he didn't.

The defense was built up as some juggernaut that it wasn't today...plain and simple.

And that's why we lost.

Now I'm logging out.

Bye,

Saying the same thing wrong twice doesn't make a right.

BossChief 10-17-2010 10:48 PM

Improvement from Cassel is a good thing, it means we might have found our BQBOTF (backup quarterback of the future, for those that couldn't figure that out)

I think his "work ethic" and "fake leadership" are things that a good clipboard holder needs to have and that if we can restructure his deal, he may just be the guy that can take our backup offense to the "promised land" and that he deep down knows his role here is gonna be exactly that, the same it was in college and the same it was in NE (until, as a backup does, he gets to play once an injury happens to the starter)

philfree 10-17-2010 11:34 PM

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Ultimately, our inability to generate pressure on Schaub is why we lost

A big THIS!

PhilFree:arrow:


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