Oh and also, all you need is a qb that can move the ball with the offense, even if you lose this should send a message.

Haley wants to keep his job and I am positive he will put the person in there that makes him look the best.

Definitely not Pioli since he performs filacio on Cassel every night but Haley doesn't like Cassel and I think he would prefer to show that he can do some different things if he had even an average QB he could trust.

Too bad Haley doesn't have much say in player decisions with old Pioli and Hunt at the helm.

KC has no one else worth a damn at this point of the season. Bring him in and it doesn't cost a 1st rounder... And hopefully they draft someone and may the best QB win. Don't care who at this point. They can always trade him next year...

Exactly. I don't want Orton coming in and winning games but if he can even put up some decent passing numbers (keep the Chiefs competitive) with this murderous schedule and develop some quick chemistry with Bowe and Baldwin, I am all for it.

No he can't. He can be claimed off of waivers. He goes to whichever team claims him.

Maybe draft a qb, maybe bring in McNabb for a year, he is not done.

**** McNabb. I won't agree with you on that one.

Why? McNabb is not a long term solution but could stop the bleeding until a youngster is ready.

Pick a F/A then...

How bout Jason Campbell?

I'd take Orton or Campbell. McNabb is ****ing done.

I agree. No McNabb, he looked horrible in Minnesota, even with a back like AP. He is done.

When a team drags its feet by not developing young talent this is what happens.... So now they are in a pickle...

Either draft a QB and play Cassel until he is ready or pick up used merchandise.


Who knows, get charles back and moeiki and this offense may look totally different next year.

You are shitting me right??

You have beaten all shit teams this year in his four wins..

Whats next, Oakland is a vaunted team?? The Jets O or D is good??
If you play any playoff caliber teams you get stomped.. Whoever represents the west this year will get its ass beat..

As for the Chiefs.. Why pick up Orton?? See what you have first, or there was no reason to draft Stanzi in the first place.. Hypothetically if this team managed to win the division at 7-9.. Ass beating would commence again..

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Nah, Bears or Chiefs make more sense, especially KC. RT @eaglescouch: @caplannfl #Redskins making room for #Orton.

He can refuse to report, retire, get sick..

I do not think any player would do it though..
I still do not want him though.. I would rather throw Stanzi in the fire and see what balls he has..

What the hell is this logical, reasonable discussion bullshit? :p

This FO is obviously NOT going to throw Stanzi into the fire.

I am only a troll a couple days before a game... I will be back to my old self soon.

I must go press some more license plates now, so refrain from stupid talk til I get back.

We need to let Stanzi get his feet wet the rest of this year and when we have all our torn ACLs back we'll have a contender next year.

FYP :p

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Orton's salary is 7.4M. 6 wk remaining balance is 2.6M. That amount assumed by new team if claimed; otherwise Broncos will owe.

This.. Why would we want Orton, we arent going to the Playoffs much less the SB.. Put ****ing Stanzi in.. period! Give him the rest of this year to get better and either we need to draft a QB or we dont its very ****ing simple.

And make Cassel look like a pro bowl QB and see his bright shining face leading your team next year.

As a Raider fan, I can honestly say this is the direction I hope you go.:thumb:

They don't want to play the rook, so given a choice between Orton and Falko the rest of the year...I choose Orton.

How sad is it we are discussing the merits of claiming Orton off waivers or not to.

The only positive I can think of in all of this is had this happened earlier the Raiders could have saved 2 high picks and had no drop in performance at QB.

I want Orton in KC, I wont buy a jersey or anything, but I just want some complete passes on my sundays.

But, but, but that 9-7 record and 1st round playoff loss is sooooo worth the 1st and 2nd ROFL

Let me know when Baylor puts RGIII on waivers. Until then I don't care.

BUST

He's black you know Frankie told me.

It would be stupid to pay Kyle ****ing Orton 2.6M dollars to play 6 games in a season that's already basically lost.

....which is why they'll probably do it. :doh!:

We needed more performance at QB that's why we got one of the best ones in the NFL

None of the above honestly. If the F.O. does not see that Cassel is the problem, Orton won't change that.

You sure did. Elite

Like hell it won't. If Orton comes in and keeps the games close without having an offseason to learn the offense.....it will show the FO just how shitty Cassel is.

Pics or it didn't happen!

Like he did in Minn? Sorry but no McNabb is done.

If the options are Palko and Orton (and I believe they are at this point; the team's given no indication that Stanzi's in the mix) then I bring in Orton yesterday.

That is a big IF for a guy who lost his starting job to Tebow. Why would he be any better than Cassel here?

Id rather lose out then have kyle raw dog orton playing quarterback for us...im mean jesus cmon we all know how shitty he is..id rather see a unproven rookie shit the bed then orton come in and win one game and lose 5

On the other hand, if Orton comes in and does terrible (which is more likely than him doing well imo), then it might be "Oh well nobody could perform with these circumstances...Cassel just needs more protection, Charles healthy, and someone less inept at running an offense".

Honestly though, I don't think Pioli is dumb enough not to realize that Cassel sucks. I mean...it's just not possible. Right? Right??!?!!?!

****KKK NOOOO to ORTON! I dont give a damn i do not want that turd playing qb for us

I don't expect anybody who is a Chief fan to give 2 shits about Carson, I just want the true fans of the game to see him as the QB and the leader he is....

Carson has barely scratched the Al Saunders playbook... and he looks more in control of that offense than any QB since Gannon, he barks out audibles and directs traffic... Knows how to throw a screen and can find the open man..

If this team does not win another game this season, as long as they beat the Chiefs atleast by 28 points I will be happy... I hope the Chiefs wait until that game to try Stanzi out too.

We will see this offseason, but I am scared to think that he and Haley somehow believe in him because of his flukey Pro Bowl season last year.

Look dude, if you're wanting to be serious here, Carson is a solid QB still, but he isn't a top QB in the league anymore. I don't know if he ever truly was. He does give you more of a shot than Boller...or Campbell for that matter.

Hopefully Carson takes you guys a long way with what your team gave up for him. Anything less than playoff success (and not just making it because the AFC West is this years NFC West) will be a failure.

Well, they did the right thing for Orton... give him a shot at catching on with another team, possibly one that is making a playoff push. Good for both of them.

"Hey look! We don't need to draft a QB after all. Just think what Orton could do with a full offseason here!"

He can go back to Chicago or sign with Houston. I don't see any reason at all for the Chiefs to sign him. Not that you said differently, just chiming in.

That has about the same probability of happening as the FO actually drafting a QB in the 1st round.

Well, he won't likely have a choice unless he clears waivers and at this point, there's no way that he will. I could see any one of 10 teams placing a claim, especially a few that are in the playoff hunt.

Houston already said that they aren't putting in a claim for him.

Picking up Orton is the very definition of cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Yeah, the interesting scenario is Chicago bringing him back... you have that history and a trip for the Bears in 3 weeks to Mile High. Talk about a revenge factor.

The Chiefs should not take any interest in Kyle Orton. For our situation, the obvious strategy is to play Stanzi at some point this season, draft someone, then let Stanzi and the drafted QB battle it out in camp. Unless the QB we draft is a 1st round pick. Then we'd basically have to start him over Stanzi.

The Chiefs (honestly) have nothing to gain by bringing him in at this point... there's really only a few teams where it makes sense.

Good god I hope youre right man

Orton only makes sense for Chicago: they need a QB, and he knows the system.

This. FINALLY.

Captain America is liable to put 50 up on your sorry asses.



Ok, that's all I got.

Orton makes perfect sense for the Chiefs. We can strip him of his knowledge of the Denver scheme and waive him thereafter.

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
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US (German-born) physicist (1879 - 1955)


Much like what Chiefs do for picking up QBs from other teams scrap heap. Yet that's what some of the fans want to get again.

I think one danger we as fans might be overlooking is that bringing in a new quarterback you run the risk that he'll play much better than any of the current guys and confuse the plan. The plan being, management decides if the guy is Cassel and if it's not, they go look for a real franchise QB.

I don't want there to be any chance Orton is the starter next opening day. I'd rather it were Cassel. If it's Cassel, then we know the team didn't see better options out there and so he will stopgap for us. If we switch then you have another guy who needs at least a year to prove or disprove himself... it sets us back.

why? Orton is much better than cassel

Palmer needed 3 weeks to regain his averageness
Orton can get back in the swing of things & hand it to Stanzi

What is sad is that Chiefs fans would rather have Orton than a 1st round QB next year...

And we wonder why we are the suck...

When I first read this the cp mentality took over. He's better than what we got, give it a shot. Then I thought, this is what the Chiefs always do. They turn to a vet for fear of actually developing a QB. We don't need the Orton crutch. We need to Stanzi on our own two legs.

That is a misjustification on why to bring him here. Orton is not a franchise guy that we need & he still sucks. It's like do you want to have a gavel or a hammer drop on your head. Both are going to hurt, but one is just going hurt less.

Hey you just may see the light. Remember it this way. If it's what Carl Peterson would do then we should do the opposite. Well Kyle Orton is exactly what Carl Peterson would do.

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I will probably go to piolis house and shit on his doorstep if we pick up orton....(thats the best case senario) who knows what ill do if im drunk

Bend over and they will show you.

The simple fact that a thread was even made about it proves the point. Why bring in this ass hat? What purpose does it serve?

The Chiefs need to flush Palko and play Stanzi. We need to see if Stanzi is a long term backup solution for the Chiefs or not...

We need to know that he can play some what if something (God Forbid) would happen to our new shiney franchise QB next year...

My point is that most people in this thread have no desire for Orton to be here after this year, contrary to your post.
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What's really funny is the chain of thought with some fans:

1.) Some Chiefs fans think Tebow sucks.
2.) Tebow took Orton's starting job.
3.) Broncos cut Orton.
4.) Thus, some Chiefs fans think they should sign Orton, who couldn't beat out Tebow, who sucks, LOL.

I havent read the thread... Just going off the deep end...:thumb:

Not what some of us are saying. It is clear these dbags won't play Stanzi, which is what should happen.

If that is the case why not bring in a guy like Orton to finish out the year and maybe show that Cassel has been the problem all along if he can play average at best. He won't help us win games but if he can keep the Chiefs competitive against the upcoming murderous schedule it can show that Cassel is crap. I wish Palko would upstage Cassel but that is clearly not going to happen.

Orton finishes the year, you obviously don't resign him, and draft a 1st round QB.

I think it just comes down to someone being able to upstage Cassel a bit and show that he plainly sucks ass to those at the top of this organization. And if they won't play Stanzi and Palko obviously blows, lets take Orton to accomplish the task of showing that Cassel reeks of awfulness.

Yea I agree, I dont want him just because I hope we suck ass the rest of the year and end up in the top 5, but if I had my choice, its easily Orton>Cassel

People do realize if we sign Orton we have a better chance to win games, which equals a worse chance at getting a 1st round QB.