THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!

The only thing I will laugh at is if the Chiefs offer him a multi year deal. But those who think this is a bad pickup don't know shit about football.

That's what scares me. It might. The worst thing that can happen to this team is to win the division.

It's hard to develop that young QB when he doesn't exist because you won two meaningless games.

He said as much in free agency, too....and I am not a htismaqe mult.

There is much truth stuff hanging from this post.

FAX

From NFL.com:

Pioli fortunately does not operate in a cocoon where his decisions are unaffected by market forces. One reason that losing teams draft QBs in the first round is to sell tickets. Matt Cassel Act Four will not sell tickets.

The only way Cassel stays is if he brings in McDaniels as head coach, and Pioli would be betting his career on that double-down. Much safer actually for Pioli to get a few free years with a rookie QB.

I see I am getting ignored, you all should be bowing to your Raider Master/ Football guru

Now lets trade him!

Again, that's just flawed logic.

Either Pioli wants a quarterback or he doesn't. I don't see how you can truly believe that he wants a quarterback so badly that he'd give up the 8th overall pick to secure one, but he doesn't want one badly enough to not give up the 15th overall and the 75th overall.

He was going to draft a first round quarterback or he won't.

You can't

This forum will be clinging to Kyles ballsack as soon as he throws the first TD pass

"FIRE PIOLI NOW!" What a friggin joke!

sarcasm.

There's one thing you aren't considering. What if the Chefs turn around and trade him to the Bears tomorrow? This doesn't look too bad, if you can get a couple 1sts and a 2nd out of it.

Well yeah! We havent had a TD pass around these parts for some time now.

Ok

You can't trade him, trade deadline has passed

I'd say the majority of ChiefsPlanet is about the long term plan of the Chiefs, not a 2011 band-aid. Now, If you go over to a different Chiefs website, or perhaps the official facebook page, You will see many Orton bandwagoneers.

this move proves to me that Haley is in fact coaching for his job

:facepalm:

So let me get this straight - if I sour on a Chief, I'm not allowed to express approval for anything they do?

In that case everyone who celebrates Matt Cassel TD passes is a flip flopper.

****ing idiots.

And that's a false dichotomy, also flawed logic.

Look at the history of Belichick and Pioli independently as drafters. How often do they trade down? How often do they trade up?

It's obvious to any football fan that the New England model covets multiple 2nd and 3rd round picks, and that just so happens to be what you're going to have to give up, (if not a future first) in order to move up if you are at 15 rather than 8, 6, 4, whatever.

I happen to believe that there exists a scenario where a risk averse GM will draft a young QB to give himself time, but won't give up multiple picks in order to do so. That's precisely who I think Pioli is, I think it's been well documented by his drafting history, and it's most likely what is going to happen in late April.

The continuum is really:

QB at any cost-----QB for a small price-----QB but only if he's there----No high QB period.

gotcha.

Thanks.

Trade deadline is passed.

GOOD!

Rent-A-Center!

Cool, the Chiefs got another shitty backup QB from another team.

I know it's the Broncos and all, but they might have tried that themselves if it wasn't for the trade deadline thing.

reposter.

Kyle will warm up to the idea when they present him with that multi year contract

can we trade him?

Yes







































after the season is over

Well at least they're not totally salvaging their season.....least they're doing something.

Ha, we got essentially the same caliber QB off the waiver wire you gave a 1st and 2nd round pick for.

STFU

If one more person, after me, says to trade orton in any way shape or form, they need to be banned for an hour. Oh and I am truly sorry CP. Orton looks great between the 20s and sometimes in the RZ, but if game is on the line, forget it. If your D can keep you in the or tied, then prepare for a W. And pushed out of the draft position for any good player let alone a QB.:cuss:

:(

FFS calling Pioli a "BALLA ASS GM" over and over and over isnt voicing support for just one ****ing move.

You have LOVED the last two drafts (outside the 2nd round of 2010 and Moeaki) and voiced support for his free agency periods the last two years, too.

From strictly his job performance, what criteria are you using to now say he is hot garbage?

I know, Orton>Palmer

This team is so smart

If the Chiefs had really bottomed out and not won a game, then yeah, I think they would have draft a guy like Luck.

Other than that, I just don't see them drafting a QB in the first round.

So assuming he reports... when does he take his first snap?

I honestly don't care, you know I like you man.

I just wanted a chance to say BALLA ASS GM.

:)

Can the Chiefs trade him to the Bears? It sounded like the Bears really wanted him back.

Let's trade him now!

Kyle who? I dont ever remember a Q/B in the NFL named Kyle

Orton is in the last year of his contract

This is just adding a body at QB because all we have is a journeyman who has never played and a rookie who has never played.

btw so much for Haley not having any influence. This Orton claim doesn't happen without Haley being on board.

Not for at least 1 game if not two which really begs the point of WTF did you sign him with 4-5 games left to play and absolutely no shot at winning anything?

Like I said, I didn't either.

But I could at least hope and not feel like I was being totally unrealistic.

They just picked up Kyle freaking Orton. It's obvious what this FO is looking for in a QB now.

The hope is gone...

Shit sandwich with or without crust? Take your pick.

Orton vs Palmer.

Who is the shit sandwich with crust depends on the given year. Go look at their career numbers.

So you're saying there's a chance! ;-)

They are going to kill Stanzi if the win two meaningless games?

Gotta agree with that. It's a "job saver" move if there ever was one.

They're not mathematically eliminated. It's only us "fair weather" fans that think they have no shot at winning anything...

You won't get anything for him because he will be a FA

lolllllllllllllllllllll

Oh yea, as I said, it is a good pickup unless you all sign him beyond this year

Yes, Ricky Stanzi is a quality developmental prospect.

I am glad the Chiefs got him. I think it will give Chiefs fans a good indication of what Cassel is.

See, I think that Cassel is better than Orton. I know that many on here disagree.

I think it will be interesting to see how Orton does with the same talent.

I seriously don't understand how this can't be the best move for the Chiefs unless you like being blown out every week...

Hell face it, You all know you are not good enough to beat many more teams this year but you also don't want to totally make the rest of the team not give a shit anymore either.

Oh this ought to be good. Everybody made note of this post.

Orton is light years better than Cassel. You can just see it in how he throws the ball.

Put me on the disagree list. Cassel is just slightly below average. Orton is average.

First, lighten up francis....

Second, I hope he is. I think he might be..... I would have liked to see him on MNF... or later this year.

I just want to see him play in a real game. I think sitting him for a year is a better way to develop him, but I would like to see him get some game time.

They're either planning on drafting a QB or they're not next year.

Claiming Orton doesn't change anything.

No this tells Cassel hes gone.They resign orton next yr release cassel

Well, honestly, it is like debating the valedictorian of the special needs class.... but I do think Cassel is better.

i wouldn't piss on this franchise if it were dying in an aids fire....


we'll dress any clown for QB as long it isn't someone who might develop...


i hope Clark chokes on a fig newton...pussy

I don't see how this helps win many, if any, games. The team was doing poorly with Cassel who knew the offense. Now, Orton is supposed to come in and do, what, keep them from going 4-12?

I don't see him starting for at least one but maybe two games. The Chiefs are not like the other teams in playoff contention who lost QBs. Many of those teams are in winning streaks or had been playing well before they lose their QB. So making a play to save the season made sense but the Chiefs haven't been in that position.

Talking about the Kyle Orton move on PTI.

Tony Kornheiser just said our offensive coordinator was Josh McDaniels.

A legit QB to start. Not a scrub that couldn't cut it in the CFL or UFL.

When Orton was putting up good QB ratings in Denver, he was also throwing for a lot of yards. Cassel wasn't doing that here. That's an important distinction.

hack

ROFL

foreshadowing.

That's what I was thinking.

Yeah this. Just like when Herm wouldn't stick his neck out just a little bit to let Gonzo get his record-setting catch at home, so he could secure his second win of the season.

This completely smells of the Chiefs trying to pretend they still have a season, and pretend that losing Cassel meant anything bad.

Play pretend is fun.

I have to run to the bathroom real quick and puke up my lunch now. Holy fucking sh*t that's sad.

In fairness, Kornheiser doesn't really watch sports.

He writes about them and he talks about them. There is only so much time in the day.

Orton's career QB rating is below 80. Yes, he looked good for two seasons in Denver under McDaniels. I think that McDaniels is better than Haley as OC.

Cassel put up comparable numbers when he was with NE and had a better QB rating.

I think that either can be an average QB in the NFL with the right coaching.

LMAO

Duh. Pioli and Haley can't protect their reputations going 4-12 in Year Number Three.

6-10 is much prettier on paper. Chiefs fans won't know the difference. (sarcasm)