That is the exact opposite of what I got. They are laying groudwork to get Orton back.

"i probably wouldn't be here if it weren't for him (orton)"

FML

about cassel "he has taken us to a playoff game and I think he can do it again"

this organization is full of fail

Won with Cassel LOL

That's what i read, half a dozen wow way to persue a HC...


:rolleyes:

Basically saying I've got these two guys under contract, I think I could win with Cassel, but we'll see how it plays out in free agency...

How?

He literally said that the QB status is yet to be determined.

Many people here are taking things out of context.

If I were to deduct something from what Crennel said over who he wants between Cassel and Orton, I would say Orton.

This.

It's pretty clear Crennel likes Orton more than Cassel.

And with that statement, Romeo is dead to me.

Yep. Seems to want Orton.

Which is fine...assuming we draft a QB, too.

We have to add more depth and competition.

If you listened to everything else said he was puffing Pioli's peter on Cassel

"We are still working on this team".

"Process"

"Too early to expect us winning big"

Cassel WAS the established starting QB ... saying anything else means he's likely on his way out.

I didn't get that. I think they'd like to have him back at a team friendly contract, but it sounded like "Hey, Kyle did a good job, but he's a free agent and he's probably not going to want to come back and compete with Cassel for the job."

What I did get out of it is that Cassel is NOT getting the outright "this is definitely the guy" support he's gotten before...

What is Pioli's problem?
 

he keeps clearing his throat, is he nervous has hell or what? Annoying ****

Did you guys hear Romeo say "It is what it is" when talking about the QBs?

He said "situation" instead of "It". Still, same meaning.

He knows.

And he fluffed Ortons peter much more than anyone elses.

You will never get anything of value from Pioli in a press conference.

It's a weird condition.

Now we just need to franchise Bowe then make a trade to Indy. I'd trade Bowe, Cassel and our first two draft picks for Manning. Then if we could retain Carr, and spend the rest of our draft picks and free agency money on the O-line, we'd be set. See how easy that'd be?

Exit stage left.

Crennel kissing Hunt's ass big time.

"After you sir"

Not listening to it, but was mention made that Orton is NOT under contract? Given that, Crennel wouldn't even be talking about him unless he expected to re-sign him. Reading between the lines, sounds like Orton is the guy.

Do people ever read threads on this forum? :facepalm:

We don't have to shit for Manning. And even if we did, if we traded that much for him, I'd literally kill Pioli.

Hunt does not look completely sold on the situation.

Anyone else read it differently?

I just saw his facial expressions. I didn't hear his comments.

The Chiefs do not need to trade Bowe, they could pay both of them and keep their draft picks.

Giving up picks for Manning and his injury is foolish. Insanely foolish.

If you trade that much you better be ****ing getting Andrew Luck.

Oh yeah. He's not sold on Cassel. He went through the Derek Anderson situation in Cleveland. RAC isn't dumb. But it is what it is, Cassel is still under contract.

The OC hire will be telling. I'm really pulling for Clements from Green Bay. I do NOT want an internal promotion...

Still sounds like Orton doesn't want to be here though.

There you go, guys.

Enjoy Romeo. Derek Anderson, Matt Cassel, what's the ****ing difference.

haha ya i did see that. oh well starting on the right foot.


Anyone see the hot blonde in the back row?

basically sounded like a bunch of content people who were content to continue on without major changes with either Cassel or Orton....no one thinks we need a QB, and we sure as hell aren't drafting one...ever


i see many more years of mediocre whatever-ness...

Based on what?

"SNAP"

The sound a neck makes getting broke.

The Colts would have to give Manning 28 million in bonus money to be able to keep him long him enough to trade him.

Colts keep Manning or he becomes a free agent

I wonder what the track record is for head coaches who leave the Browns and HC elsewhere? We got Marty and Belichick that I know of. Probably meaningless, but failure as a Browns HC doesn't gaurantee failure elsewhere. I'm hopefull that RAC will keeping improving our team. Seems to stand up to Pioli as well.

Hunt is who he is. He will rarely come across as anything but robotic in press conferences...

Cassel is an alcoholic? I thought he played like he was drunk.

You act like the HC has the chance to affect Pioli's thinking.

Romeo is actually a fine hire. This is the worst crop of coaches I can ever remember. Bad year to be looking for one, but he made a lot of sense.

Except when he's gushing about Pioli.

Wait till we sign Brady Quinn.

With Luck in Indy, if Manning was traded to another team, he'd have so much of a chip on his shoulder I doubt the neck injury would factor in. Not to mention , with the success he's had with a crappy supporting cast in the past, Imagine what he could do with Baldwin, Breaston and McClsuster. If we could keep Bowe, that would be a plus. That O with our emerging D!!

I know this is stuff of fantasy but it's not the first time I have gone online to fantasize.

Awesome.....another year of Mark Castle.

How did you come to this conclusion?

He also said that Orton is the reason he was hired as a HC.

He said the usual things about Cassel "We won with him, he got us to the playoffs". He won't flame him because he might need him if the Orton route does not work.

I think it's almost 50/50 with an edge to Orton.

That's what my friend told me the other day, forgot to factor that in.

Oh and congratulations to Romeo! I wasn't one of the people ready to throw Haley under the bus, but if we had to make a change, I'm glad it went to Crennel.

haha I dont think thats how Crennel meant it but this :LOL:
last time he fell off the wagon he jammed his finger and got put on IR

His post game comments in Denver and RAC's comments today seemed to play down expectations. I wish Pioli would have jumped in and said we'll try everything we possibly can to bring Kyle back but it sure as **** didn't sound that way at all. Like Talking Can said it all sounded very content with what they have.

RAC wouldn't play Quinn when he had him. I don't see why he would want him now.

Yes, because all the drive and chip on shoulders can overcome a neck injury.

I will gladly take a year with Orton over Cassel. If we are not drafting a QB then going with Orton means two things:

He wins big for us next year. (No way that happens).
He sucks and we draft a QB in 2013.

The only problem is him wanting too much money and since the market is kind of hot for QBs now, he might have a leverage over us.

Injuries don't go away because people are mad.

Dude is 1 hit from a wheelchair. He's had 3 neck surgeries. This isn't his knee we're talking about. People who think he's coming back are in a fantasy.

ever hear him talk? JFC, dude is a stuttering idiot. He's as unbearable to listen to as his columns are to read.

2009 was pretty sad too.

• Mike Singletary
• Steve Spagnuolo
• Jim Schwartz
• Rex Ryan
• Todd Haley
• Josh McDaniels
• Raheem Morris
• Eric Mangini
• Tom Cable

Basically Schwartz and Ryan were the best hires, and I'm not sure how well Schwartz does if his predecessor doesn't go 0-16 and allow them to get Stafford to pair with Megatron, because that defense is atrocious and Gunther is a bad hire. Ryan I've never liked but people seem to think he's a good coach, so whatever...

Anderson won in Quinn's rookie year kind of hard to play him and started out the second the same way, then Anderson fell off the wagon and Quinn got hurt.

Theres no trading for Manning. Either he is a Colt or he is a FA. Plus, no one even knows if he'll ever play again. The fascination with Peyton is unbelievable.

Hmm don't know. Crennel thanked Orton twice and said that if it wasn't for Orton he probably wouldn't be setting there.

I would say half of it is a fascination with Peyton and the other half is the fact that acquiring Manning would be a Chief move.

Avoid drafting and developing a QB like the plague but pick up a broken down QB.

I know that. DA is from my alma mater, so I watched a lot of Browns games in '07 and '08. RAC seemed very reluctant to play Quinn, even in '08 when it was obvious that DA was struggling. Either he is very loyal or he thinks Quinn isn't very good. Quinn hasn't done anything since to dispel that notion, either. I'd expect DA before Quinn.

I'd rather have Quinn than Cassel.

Quinn was put in a shitty situation to begin with.

Well, at least a lot of thought went into the reasoning there.

I miss Todd Haley already.

Awesome, setting the bar high right off the bat.

I have a feeling Charles will be ridden into the ground next year.

I know that this was a battle between our guys but there was a huge outcry to play Quinn even during DA's great 10-5 season. It got even louder when DA started out poorly. It would have been very easy to put Quinn in and placate the masses but they didn't until the season was lost. Either RAC is stupid or there was something wrong with Quinn. Since Quinn went straight to back up after leaving the Browns, it points to him being a bad QB.

Do you think the Browns "ruined" him?

Really?

What do you expect him to say? Should he say "Well, Scott Pioli was a ****ing idiot for bringing in Matt Cassel because Cassel sucks"?

Some of you guys have a lot to learn about tact.

I don't.

You have to talk nice about Cassel if you want to trade him.

i just wish that someone in this organization would talk about how important the QB position is, and that you have do any it takes to get the right guy...


but they all think you can go 9-7 with any vet piece of shit and maybe get lucky and that's good enough for them...plus they all like each other and that's the most important thing, it takes a team to count Clark's money

shoot yourself in the face

Charles needs more carries

Romeo should not have taken the job if he didn't have a say in who the QB was.

So he's either a puppet or a reerun if he allows Cassel to start.

I liked haley. Don't know what really went down behind the scenes, but I guess I'm a homer. I'll settle in with whoever we have and hope for the best. Polio needs to do SOMETHING though. Need a whopper move in the draft or free agency, trades, whatever.

LMAO

he needs to make up for what he lost this year.

Ruined him? No. Set him back? Yes.

Quinn sitting for the first year because of DA's success was fine. Mangini ****ed up Quinn because anytime he threw an INT....he would get pulled. Then he would get put back in....until he screwed up again and then he would get pulled. Quinn never really got an opportunity to "learn" from his mistakes. Then he gets traded to the Broncos....and he gets to sit behind Orton and Tebow. He was never really going to get a chance to compete in that situation.

Do I think Quinn is a Top 10 QB? No. But he can at least be a really good backup QB.

NO! That would hurt too much.

Why start now?

You cant ruin a young QB.

If he sucks at this level it just means hes not good enough.

This.

There's only 2 options if Cassel starts:

1) He knows Cassel sucks but starts him anyway because he has no real power or influence (or because he's just thankful to be given the job) - aka Gunther Cunningham or
2) He doesn't know Cassel sucks and therefore isn't fit to be a head coach.

^ +1 Dave