Your and idiot.
Dumbass.

Saul, you are coming off as especially dumb because of conversations we've had on this exact topic before.

And you're coming off like a douche bag because you think you are king of the world for having an ounce of self control in your life.

We are glad you don't get so drunk you don't have to call your mom because you are scared.

Why relaying experience about diet information has to come with some hilarious soapbox nobody will ever know.

r8ers-esque.

I don't think I'm the king of shit. I wanted to share this amazing video I saw with everyone, and then everyone told me I was wrong, which I'm not.

Good night.

If we really want to get down to what "science" has really proven about weight loss it is pretty simple. Take in less calories per day than your burn and you will lose weight.

I have seen same size bodybuilders who eat tons of carbs and those who eat barely any. Manipulating your diet to lose weight is generally up to you.

I personally like the low carb approach when I lose weight and those who say eating tons of fat is bad for you haven't read the research. That being said, I have seen tons of guys who get shredded and eat very little fat and mostly carbs/protein.

It's not 100% about weight loss. It's about what is good for your body, regardless of what you weigh.

So much anger.

No, you are right to a point. Refined sugar definitely should be avoided for the most part, although I myself am not perfect either!

I was just making the point for those that are trying to lose weight, make it simple. Less calories in than you are burning. It doesn't have to be avoiding all carbs and what not. I know, probably a topic for a different thread. :)

I take it you didn't watch the video huh?

I'm eating a frozen chocolate banana and washing it down with a MT
Dew. SO GOOD!

ROFL

This drives me crazy. I've been doing Paleo for a while (not all that strict, but I'm doing it) & I've had great results: (lost 15 lbs that I didn't realize I had to spare, totally clear complexion, more energy, etc) I try not to talk much about it unless someone asks, but I've found that it really upsets people that I don't eat the same shit that they eat. family & friends are constantly cracking on my "weird" diet.

The other thing that makes me want to snap is when people say, "You're so lucky to be thin & fit." Hey, reerun, I work out every day & I pay attention to what I eat. Go have another Big Mac & a Twinky.

People think I have an eating disorder if I talk to them about intermittent fasting.

Don't you? That's ****ing crazy & it can't possibly be healthy. You're probably going to die soon. I'm totally joking, BTW. That's the kind of shit fat people say.

:D

Yea me too! I don't eat until 4 pm some days and people always say, "Isn't that bad for your body?" If I was cocky, I would just say "look at my body and look at yours!"

I have trouble doing traditional IF because sometimes I am hungry in the morning and sometimes at night. I usually don't eat lunch. It's hard to do 16/8 when you don't eat lunch. I could do 23/1.

I fast completely every friday. Don't eat from about 6 pm Thursday until around 9 or 10 am on Saturday. That really flushes out a lot of the sodium I eat during the week. I like doing it and it doesn't bother me.

ROFL

I also love how when I sit down to a meal where I'm actually splurging and eat whatever the hell I want (and I can eat a lot) people are like "how do you stay so fit and eat like that?"

"Well, those are the first calories I've had in 24 hours. That's how. While you were eating Krispy Kremes, my body was eating fat, tubby".

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I love how some people are so defensive of their diets as if there is only one way to do it.

When people start saying that not pigging out is a cop out I just have to laugh and shake my head.

Yes...the old family genes do suck...I like you am in good shape but unfortunately high BP and cholesterol runs in the family. My dad had his first heart attack at 38...Even though I'm on meds at 43 I think about it often...

I used to work with 3 guys who ate all the time. Mostly junk.

All 3 were under 200 and around 5'10".

None of them were active.

Its mostly genetics.

I really don't have the time or energy to respond to everything, but a few things stand out:

Sugar re: Insulin spikes: Sugar isn't the only thing that spikes insulin. Bread does it even more than sugar. Protein spikes insulin, especially whey protein. Insulin is just a storage hormone. It makes things happen. Spiking it is neither good nor bad. It just is what it is.

Built up shit in your intestines? I thought we were past this nonsense already.

Moderation absolutely works, and anyone who says it doesn't lacks self-control or intelligence. Maybe both.

If you eat a sensible amount of calories, it's almost impossible to "overdose" on the stuff that's bad for you.

:clap:

Go eat nothing but 2000 calories of table sugar a day and come back here in a month and let me know how you are feeling.

I've recently given up all soda. I'd only drunk diet for years, but for a diabetic, some research suggesting that fake sweet is as bad as real sugar - supposedly it tricks the body into thinking it's real sugar. So the doc challenged me to drop the soda altogether and see what my sugars do...

Cupcakes on sale at the store! Yum yum yummy!

You can't eat 2000 calories of table sugar, that was his point.

2000 calories of table sugar is about 2 and half cups. If you ate that for breakfast, you'd be hungry again by about 10am and you'd be ready to kill somebody for some food by dinner time.

In order to actually be SATED, you'd have to eat 6-8000 calories of table sugar EVERY DAY.

So back to his point - if you eat a sensible amount of calories, it's almost impossible to "overdose" on the stuff that's bad for you.

Doesn't mean they're in shape or healthy.

You are a farking idiot.

His post mentioned nothing about being sated. All it said was a sensible amount of calories.

That number is usually around 2000.

You know what, **** it, go eat all the excess sugar, I don't ****ing care anymore. Try to help and turns out I'm the asshole.

He is trying to help you get some self-control, Zach. Quit rebelling and join the rebel alliance against fatness.

Buck just martyred himself.

2,000 calories of sugar isn't sustainable on an every day basis, for a multitude of reasons.

Drinking lots of water makes you feel full and curbs your appetite.

That is the healthy tip for the day.



Now everybody pat me on the back please and drink water.

Shit more if you wanna lose weight fast

Why dont you guys get your fat asses away from the computer for a while and go run some laps. this is beyond ridiculous. I get the support threads and mean no ill will. but will power and being active will make you healthy and slim.

I'd like to hear what you think is an okay amount of sugar to eat daily.

By grams or calories, I don't care.

Figure for a somewhat active person in their 30s.

Mother-in-law sent a bag of jelly beans to my boys for Easter. I took one for the team and ate most of the bag, so my kids wouldn't have to suffer the consequences of all that sugar. Dad of the year!

Says the man with 14,000 posts ! ROFL

Yeah, I'm a Chiefsplanet Loser (like you) lol.. but I aint on here incessantly whining and crying about how fat and unhealthy I am, and that I know it all about HOW to be healthy.

Just do something about it for yourself. not for everybody on the internet.

I'm ballooning into a ball of powdered sugar and pastries.

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Don't feel special, anyone that tries to help gets the same treatment around here by the same people. I can tell you right now you must be nothing more than a stupid hippie. Been there, done that.

Its like preeching about religion or telling a drug addict to get off drugs. THEY WONT DO IT UNLESS THEY ARE READY.

I know what your trying to do is positive, but face it, people dont give a shit about it really. Cig smokers know cigs cause cancer, but guess what? they smoke anyways.

Its ok, to put shit out there, but trying so hard just annoys people and in the process you get upset.

How do I reeech theez fatties?

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You: Don't eat any sugar ever.

Me: It's fine once in a while.

You: No, it isn't. It's poison, WATCH THE DAMN VIDEO.

Me: I don't need to watch a video to know sugar is fine in moderation.

You: Okay, fine goddamnit, I try to help and everybody gets mad!

If you could whip up a little deep fried pink slime with some powdered sugar on top we might have a winner.

Done & done (& gross).

http://www.worleygig.com/wp-content/...nch-hurger.jpg

NICE!!! You should enter one of those chopped competitions.

Now I want a doughnut.

doughnuts are bad, mmkay?

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I don't think you can say what is or isn't okay. I'm in my 30s. I think I've had ice cream every day for a month. Or at least close to it.

I'm in no danger.

Pretty much.

That's a terrible analogy. You're comparing sugar to cigarettes. That's just idiotic.

And I'm pretty sure you're in better health than Buck ever was or ever will be.

There are 84g of sugar in a pint of Ben & Jerry's ice cream. Most other ice cream has less.

There are 46g of sugar in a single can of Mt. Dew. I work with people who go through 4-6 cans of Mt. Dew every day. And eat greasy fried crap. And eat candy. And eat other shit with sugar.

No, eating a cup of ice cream each day won't kill you. Downing 4 cans of Mt. Dew per day and then gorging on other shit will.

Eating a nice bowl of ice cream while reading this thread. Live is good.

That's why the key is moderation.

Absolutely.

Exactly. But then, if you're doing all of that, you're not adhering to a moderate level of caloric intake, either.

Personally, I aim for 120g of protein per day (usually more, sometimes less), and then let the rest of the calories fall where they may. Lately, I've wanted ice cream, so that's what I eat.

Silock, I'm willing to bet that maybe about 2-3% of all the people on here are as fit as you. Maybe 5% max. If I ate a cup of ice cream a day I would be ****ed.

Who warped your mind into thinking like this?

Have you seen Silock?

Yes, but I was referring to the last part. You can have your cup of ice cream and be fine. Calories in vs. Calories out is what matters most. A cup of ice cream is fine as long as your also eating the right things during the day and you're not just laying on the couch 24/7.

There are different body types, people... jesus. One size doesn't fit all. Some people have to overcome genetics to be lean.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/becker3d.jpg

You haven't been paying attention to anything I've been saying about my diet apparently.

I think what he is saying is that just because your diet is obviously working, it isn't the only way to lose weight. Calories in vs calories out. Some people can eat ice cream and lose weight, as they are burning calories through the day either through a physical job or working out like a machine.

I was cutting with 3,000 calories when I was super active and Olympic lifting everyday for 2 years. I could eat plenty of food and actually had to eat plenty of carbs just to meet my calories so I didn't lose weight too fast.

And the video I posted says that calories in vs out isn't it. The lady scientist says that sugar calories aren't the same.

I don't think anyone watched the video. Of course you don't have to take it for fact, but nobody has even mentioned it.

I don't think that's accurate. I've never read anything showing sugar or HFCS to have more than 4 calories per gram. Your body eventually breaks down all carbohydrates to their basic components. Sugar is no different.

Are you familiar with GI?

That's what makes it different.

Don't tell me eating 1 oz of chicken is the same as eating 1 oz of sugary candy.

The China Study was an amazing report... the documentary Knives over Forks talks about it... and how various sections of China was prone to different types of cancer over a 30 year span... and they did a huge collaboration with Chinese and US doctors and researchers on the various effects of diet. It was fascinating.

But, since I'm losing weight and stuff... I shouldn't share this knowledge... because it makes me a douche for sharing this stuff... A big fat douche

GI is irrelevant in normal functioning adults. Even if insulin is raised high at a certain point during the day, if calories remain low thereafter, so will insulin, as fat is oxidized for energy needs.

So, if you eat 1600 calories worth of candy and that's all you eat that day, it will provide the same amount of energy as 4 400 calorie meals of protein spaced out through the day, despite the candy skyrocketing insulin at one point in the day.