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at 3 yards a pop, Cassel and the offense would have to stay on Offense the entire season to reach that many passing yards.

Well, if Clayton says its a lock, we KNOW it isn't gonna turn out that way......


( Ghetto Tag so I can follow and mock the tards in this thread)

i'll be right here, not going anywhere.

And this is the caliber answer I have come to expect from CPers.

Its what you get when you post something dumb.

Yeah, all Ryan has done is earn a #1 seed and made it to the playoffs 3/4 years. Not to mention every team he has lost to has made it the Super Bowl.

Cassel over Eli? **** you are reeruned.

Also, Direckshun: Hanie is the backup for the Donks. Not Henne.

My responses are in bold. In summation, your post is one steaming pile of dooty.

Im guessing that stats wise 2011 was a fluke for Eli......I don't think he will ever top that season.

Its not a lock Eli is going to throw for 5000 yards again....

We shall see...

But he WILL throw for more than Cassel. If the Giants offered Eli for Cassel straight up, would you take it?

I hate the Manning's but in a ****ing heartbeat...

Probably not. Remember, he did that with NO running game. I believe it was the worst in the NFL.

I edited my post from a couple of pages back. If you don't want to go back there, in the 10 wins for Cassel in 2010 the team averaged 39 carries a game for 197 yards. Those are numbers any/every QB in the NFL can/should win with.

I think Cassel holds this team back from what it can be and that's too bad, but I still this team can and will win with Cassel this season.

Agree to an extent. We will win with Charles and Hillis. Cassel's just going to be the QB handing it off and collecting the wins. Stanzi could do the same thing... and maybe more.

As far as Stanzi goes, the best news we can hear is that he's clearly better than Quinn, and beats him out for the backup spot.

Agreed. I think once a clear cut #2 is decided, that QB will start getting snaps with the #1's in practice. That is when we will see if we have a QB controversy or not.

With what should be an improved O-Line and hopefully a healthy and productive RB tandem of Charles and Hillis, I fully expect Cassel to have another season like '10, and to finish it the same way.

That will almost assuredly guarantee us another 2 years of Cassel, at the very least.

The schedule in 2012 could make it a bit more difficult for Cassel than what it was in 2010, but yeah, I could see it too.

You shut your filthy wh*re mouth!!

Just kidding. Kind of.

Yes, I think so too. I just hold out hope that in spite of that they go elsewhere at QB next year, of course, I was holding out hope they'd do that this year as well.

The point is Pawnmover, Eli has won two Super Bowls as the underdog.

Now, go stand in the corner and think about what you said.

This O-Line should be better, and the Chiefs have more weapons, which offsets the tougher schedule some.

No disrespect. Brady No. 1? He lost his last two Super Bowls.

Nevermind him. He's an idiot.

Thanks, Dave.

Epic fail on his part - Differences in judgment are rarely due to stupidity.

I hope Eli doesn't have to throw for 4,933 yards again this season. The Giants running game was ranked dead last in the NFL. Ahmad Bradshaw missed four-six games with a fractured foot and played through the final games on it. Individually, Brandon Jacobs and Bradshaw combined for a total of just two 100-yard rushing games this season - Toward the end of the season they combined four 100-yard rushing yards in the last five season games.

"Giants starters missed 68 games to injuries this season. That's the most in the NFC East. By comparison, Eagles starters missed only 18."

Eli is definitely the best big game - clutch quarterback in the league. I would definitely put him ahead of Tom Brady considering he has beaten him twice in Super Bowls.

Les Bowen's from the Philadelphia Inquirer:

Cassel has proven though, over and over again, that even when the rest of the team is playing well he can **** it up.

We ran all over the Bills in 2010, played terrific defense, and he almost single handedly lost the game.

The stakes are much higher this year, the expectations are bigger, the opponents are going to be tougher, I think he will fail harder.

And don't forget that even if the OL is better he has a habit of making OL look bad.

The only situation I really see us making the playoffs is if we field a top 5 defense. And I think Cassel will make that hard to do.

^This. People think it was coincidence that our D played better with Orton. When you're not on the field constantly due to 3 & out after 3 & ****ing out, you don't play like you're ****ing Jason Mayhem Miller (gass out in the first 5 min.).

I would normally agree. However, Cassel has to face a Mike Nolan D and play at Buffalo in his first 2 games. He's most likely going to be rattled and produce like he did the first two games of last year.

Don't you ****ing hate on Tom.

yeah you're right.
i had him on top because he has three super bowl wins.

should have based it off last season alone, but then P Manning wouldn't be there.

Good post.