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notorious 09-16-2012 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dylan (Post 8919415)
Sunday full page ad: $73,458

Broadsheet = 126 column inches @ $583 per column inch ROP

http://media.kansascity.com/static/a...ional_2011.pdf

Ya, no.

Hammock Parties 09-16-2012 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dylan (Post 8919415)
Sunday full page ad: $73,458

Broadsheet = 126 column inches @ $583 per column inch ROP

http://media.kansascity.com/static/a...ional_2011.pdf

A newspaper ad is a waste of ****ing time.

www.firescottpioli.com

90 percent of the internet fanbase will sign the guestbook

NJChiefsFan 09-16-2012 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja (Post 8919395)
Haley should have never took the job when the QB was forced on him. I like Haley, but Pioli ****ed up and so did Haley. Should have hired the coach first, then see who the coach likes as a qb, then went from there.

Tough to say from his end. If you always wanted to be a head coach and it was the only offer, hard to turn it down. Being the "hot" OC or whatever you want to say doesn't last forever.

kcxiv 09-16-2012 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 8919441)
Tough to say from his end. If you always wanted to be a head coach and it was the only offer, hard to turn it down. Being the "hot" OC or whatever you want to say doesn't last forever.

i get that, but he knows it was wrong now, i dont blame him for it, but that was the first signal that Pioli was in way over his head.

mnchiefsguy 09-16-2012 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8919437)
A newspaper ad is a waste of ****ing time.

www.firescottpioli.com

90 percent of the internet fanbase will sign the guestbook

I would agree. Newspaper space is worthless. The internet, facebook, twitter, and other social media is what gets the attention nowdays, and it will reach many more people.

DaneMcCloud 09-16-2012 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8919437)
A newspaper ad is a waste of ****ing time.

www.firescottpioli.com

90 percent of the internet fanbase will sign the guestbook

And the active internet fanbase is made up of no more than 4,000 people.

It won't do a damn bit of good.

Dave Lane 09-16-2012 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja (Post 8919395)
Haley should have never took the job when the QB was forced on him. I like Haley, but Pioli ****ed up and so did Haley. Should have hired the coach first, then see who the coach likes as a qb, then went from there.

Amen. I still wish Haley could have left a big steaming turd on Pioli's desk as a going away present.

NJChiefsFan 09-16-2012 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja (Post 8919445)
i get that, but he knows it was wrong now, i dont blame him for it, but that was the first signal that Pioli was in way over his head.

I meant from Haley's view it he was never gonna turn it down even though it meant Cassel because it was his chance to be HC.

As many things as Pioli has done wrong on the field and off, I am really curious to know how much would change if he could do over his worst mistake of them all. I really wonder if he would even do it over if given the chance.

I gave Pioli this offseason to fix his mistakes. He didn't do it.

mnchiefsguy 09-16-2012 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 8919463)
I meant from Haley's view it he was never gonna turn it down even though it meant Cassel because it was his chance to be HC.

As many things as Pioli has done wrong on the field and off, I am really curious to know how much would change if he could do over his worst mistake of them all. I really wonder if he would even do it over if given the chance.

I gave Pioli this offseason to fix his mistakes. He didn't do it.

Yeah, Haley was not going to turn down his first chance to be a HC. And the fact is, the worse this team does in the RAC era, the better Haley looks. The worse this gets, and it will start to look more and more like Haley was not the problem. (Whether that is true or not could certainly be open to debate.)

Hammock Parties 09-16-2012 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8919452)
And the active internet fanbase is made up of no more than 4,000 people.

It won't do a damn bit of good.

LMAO

There are 5,000 people that have "liked" the ArrowheadPride facebook page ALONE.

And the site does ridiculous goddamn traffic on gameday. Over 80,000 unique hits.

There are thousands and thousands of Chiefs fans on the internet.

You want to make some noise, register that URL.

If you build it, they will come.

DaneMcCloud 09-16-2012 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8919482)
LMAO

There are 5,000 people that have "liked" the ArrowheadPride facebook page ALONE.

And the site does ridiculous goddamn traffic on gameday. Over 30,000 unique hits.

That doesn't mean that they'll actually become involved. There are more than 11,000 members at CP and the most logins ever was a tenth of that.

You're overestimating, especially if people have to use their real identities.

NJChiefsFan 09-16-2012 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy (Post 8919481)
Yeah, Haley was not going to turn down his first chance to be a HC. And the fact is, the worse this team does in the RAC era, the better Haley looks. The worse this gets, and it will start to look more and more like Haley was not the problem. (Whether that is true or not could certainly be open to debate.)

I was a Haley supporter. He did plenty of stuff wrong and I wasn't upset with his firing, although I did and still do believe a lot of the fail wasn't all his fault. Its been a combo of coaching, a GM's decisions, a horrible starting QB, and zero depth that have gotten us to this point.

Hammock Parties 09-16-2012 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8919487)
That doesn't mean that they'll actually become involved. There are more than 11,000 members at CP and the most logins ever was a tenth of that.

You're overestimating, especially if people have to use their real identities.

You have a better idea?

notorious 09-16-2012 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8919491)
You have a better idea?

Walk into Clark's office after taking an Anthrax bath.

BryanBusby 09-16-2012 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dylan (Post 8919415)
Sunday full page ad: $73,458

Broadsheet = 126 column inches @ $583 per column inch ROP

http://media.kansascity.com/static/a...ional_2011.pdf

lol no wonder they are going bankrupt

Brock 09-16-2012 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8919491)
You have a better idea?

A better idea would be for people to stop showing up.

tk13 09-16-2012 10:57 PM

There's only one way you'll win, hit them in the wallet, and people stop showing up to games.

Rausch 09-16-2012 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy (Post 8919481)
And the fact is, the worse this team does in the RAC era, the better Haley looks.

I'm not getting this part...

DaneMcCloud 09-16-2012 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 8919504)
A better idea would be for people to stop showing up.

Wouldn't matter. The tickets are mostly purchased and the TV money outweighs the box office by about 95%.

It blows.

Hammock Parties 09-16-2012 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8919540)
Wouldn't matter. The tickets are mostly purchased and the TV money outweighs the box office by about 95%.

It blows.

Season ticket sales really declined this year. Scott is not doing his job, and Clark looks like an idiot.

Clark will clean house.

Get ready, because it's gonna be joyous.

mnchiefsguy 09-16-2012 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 8919527)
I'm not getting this part...

Haley was identified as the problem. The team was supposed to be competitive this year and compete for the division title. But the team appears to be no better than last year's debacle. If RAC gets worse results than Haley, then people will be begin to assign blame for the teams faults to someone other than Haley. Haley will appear to have been made the scapegoat of the situation, which will help his overall image.

The Franchise 09-16-2012 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8919482)

If you build it, they will come.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-zHBAhmW1to...-of-dreams.jpg

DaneMcCloud 09-16-2012 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8919561)
Get ready, because it's gonna be joyous.

It'll only be "joyous" if he gets it right this time.

FAX 09-16-2012 11:43 PM

Well, we have a problem. The amount of lost revenue caused by boycotting the games seems to be negligible while the KC Star advertisement appears to be unaffordable by everyone except Pioli himself.

It's strangely strange in a strange way, but on top of that, there are loads of people on Twitter and elsewhere who are self-identified Chiefs fans and who seem to believe that "fandom" is all about backing your team through thick or thin. These people apparently attend games and purchase Chiefs kitsch when we suck in an effort to help the team feel better about themselves. It's incredibly self-sacrificing since the players, coaches, and our faultless GM are paid fortunes whether we suck or not.

The answer lies in chicken bones. We must sacrifice a chicken and grind its bones into a powder to mix with snake venom and bat blood in order to make a little statuette that resembles Pioli in a sitting position and sporting large, voluminous tittahs. Once this is accomplished, we can torture that little Pioli using fire and various sharpened instruments until he goes mad and runs naked through the field of play on national television. Since both he and Clark are extremely image-conscious, this should result in some sort of involuntary imprisonment in a local mental facility for a period sufficient to locate and secure his replacement.

FAX

Dylan 09-16-2012 11:47 PM

First, if you want to oust the head coach or general manager of your team - you can lobby the media, owner for their firing. On the plus side, you initiated this before.

The media are engaged in and monitor many different issues, such as perspective of the team's fanbase.


Just my 2 cents.

ChiefsCountry 09-16-2012 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 8919029)
Between Carl and Scott, we've had 20+ years of GM's who are unwilling to hire outside their respective "trees". Whomever comes in here after Pioli, whenever that is, needs to find the right players and coaches for what he wants to do, no matter where or from whom they hail from. That's all I ask out of my GM. Get the RIGHT PEOPLE.

You mean like Carl did when he hired Marty, who he had no previous connection to.

Hammock Parties 09-16-2012 11:53 PM

April 25, 2013.

Could the most exciting day since Carl was hired.

If we draft a QB.

CAN'T WAIT

Rausch 09-16-2012 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX (Post 8919634)
Well, we have a problem. The amount of lost revenue caused by boycotting the games seems to be negligible while the KC Star advertisement appears to be unaffordable by everyone except Pioli himself.

The KC Star advertisement might happen.

I'd prefer it not being that there are more important things to throw that money away on.

We have CP members serving overseas. We have CP members with medical issues.

I'm in no way OK with drawing $$$ away from legit causes to take out an add for a football team.

Rasputin 09-17-2012 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8919561)
Season ticket sales really declined this year. Scott is not doing his job, and Clark looks like an idiot.

Clark will clean house.

Get ready, because it's gonna be joyous.

I'm holding on the notion that Clark told Pioli to fire Haley that Haley wasn't getting the team to improve. Now I don't think Pioli job is safe in this regards if there isn't major major improvement throughout this season.

I think by end of season & the losing record speaks for itself Clark will fire Pioli.

BossChief 09-17-2012 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX (Post 8919263)
This will, no doubt, bring out the haters en masse ... but, I still like Haley.

I have a lot of reasons, but I generally liked his attitude toward the game. I'm not so sure about the paranoia and the need to make his personal calls from a burn phone, but I think he will have a long and successful career in the NFL.

Frankly, it is my view that Haley was probably the best decision Pioli has made to date. Things would likely have turned out much better for everyone if Pioli had been more supportive and helpful ... as opposed to deceitful ... and under-cutting his own freaking coach.

FAX

I will ALWAYS believe that Haley would have won a championship in KC if he had a good quarterback.

Everyone looks at the 2012 version of this team and says "these guys are sofT and need a kick in the ass"

Well, say what you will about Haley, but he was the one kicking these guys in the ass and got guys like DJ to play wayyy over their heads.

Its a shame that Pioli chose Cassel instead of Haley because the man is gonna have a bright future in this league, as you said.

Long after Cassel and Romeo are out of the league.

Hammock Parties 09-17-2012 12:20 AM

Could be worse guys, we could be Rams fans.

















































http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/13...Animation6.gif

****.

DaneMcCloud 09-17-2012 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8919690)
I will ALWAYS believe that Haley would have won a championship in KC if he had a good quarterback.

No ****ing way.

There's FAR more to being a great head coach than just X's and O's. There's the ability to be a nice, normal human being and managing people.

Haley was none of the above.

Dylan 09-17-2012 12:24 AM

How about an aerial sky banner at the end of the season -- That is, if the team has a losing season and fans are unhappy.

Hopefully, the Chiefs turn it around and become a success story.

Your team has talented players.

Otter 09-17-2012 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dylan (Post 8919415)
Sunday full page ad: $73,458

Broadsheet = 126 column inches @ $583 per column inch ROP

http://media.kansascity.com/static/a...ional_2011.pdf

The New York Times is almost $20,000 less in the technology section for a 1 page ad. They don't have a sports section that I could find.

That's INSANE.

When I graduated college I put an ad in the local paper for resumes to a PO box to see who I'd be competing with and it was about $50 for a highlighted (just bold print heading) in the Sunday Help Wanted ads.

Closing in on $100,000 in the day of the internet? Good luck with that you reeruns. Maybe I'll start a typewriter repair company for $5000 a pop.

BossChief 09-17-2012 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8919696)
No ****ing way.

There's FAR more to being a great head coach than just X's and O's. There's the ability to be a nice, normal human being and managing people.

Haley was none of the above.

Not every coach goes about it the same way.

Haley was the new age version of Bill Parcells.

Parcells was as abrasive as it gets with his teams and he always motivated his players to play above their heads. He also made a lot of WTF coaching decisions...just like Haley did. Like kicking an onside kick to start a season among many other tricky calls that were outside the box.

Its ok for us to disagree on topics from time to time and this is one of those times, man.

Todd Haley whipped a sofT Herm team into shape and had them in the playoffs despite a bad quarterback in one year and if it weren't for 3 major injuries last season would have returned them to the playoffs.

A few months after he leaves...the sofT team is back.

Give the man even a Joe Flacco type QB and this would have been a contender.

JMO

FAX 09-17-2012 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 8919659)
The KC Star advertisement might happen.

I'd prefer it not being that there are more important things to throw that money away on.

We have CP members serving overseas. We have CP members with medical issues.

I'm in no way OK with drawing $$$ away from legit causes to take out an add for a football team.

Your priorities are well placed so far as I'm concerned, Mr. Rausch.

I am far more likely to contribute to a CP member's medical fund than I am to invest in some desperate attempt to intensify Clark Hunt's desire to field a winning football team ... something he should have developed without our help long ago.

On the other hand, I would also be somewhat interested in securing the services of a prostitute who could seduce Dr. Evil and, while he is in the throes of ecstasy, inject him in the jowls with some sort of vile pestis which causes an immediate, massive and irreversible swelling of the armpit lymph nodes to the point that his arms are forced into a permanent touchdown sign making it impossible for him to enter an airplane or automobile or eat without assistance.

FAX

BossChief 09-17-2012 01:04 AM

Or, we could just hire Tonya Harding.

That would probably be a lot cheaper.

Otter 09-17-2012 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8919746)
Or, we could just hire Tonya Harding.

That would probably be a lot cheaper.

The easiest route is to stop going to games. I know, it's totally silly logic to think Crennel, that didn't didn't win a playoff game his whole coaching career and he's at retirement age, was going to turn the team around but maybe history does repeat itself like all the old philosophers and historians say it does.

I didn't believe my grandfather a couple times either but if I would have listened I'd absolutely be better off in life right now. Maybe it's sometimes smarter to listen and learn than pretend you know what you're doing without a clue as this team is so very well versed.

Or hell, maybe they don't even care but if they do, they're 15 year olds trying to tell the world how championships are won.

DaneMcCloud 09-17-2012 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8919737)
Haley was the new age version of Bill Parcells.

Complete and utter nonsense.

He was the "New Age" version of Frank Kush.

DaneMcCloud 09-17-2012 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otter (Post 8919754)
I didn't believe my grandfather a couple times either but if I would have listened I'd absolutely be better off in life right now.

This is new information

Otter 09-17-2012 01:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8919760)
This is new information

You gonna copy/paste that all night? We've all made dumb mistakes, including you Mr. Perfect.

Hammock Parties 09-17-2012 01:24 AM

I used to call my grandmother every Sunday to tell her when/where the game was.

Not anymore.

lostcause 09-17-2012 01:28 AM

I want ****ING Christian Okoye to sign my ****ING Lake Dawson jersey. Keep your unicorns.

DaneMcCloud 09-17-2012 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otter (Post 8919761)
You gonna copy/paste that all night? We've all made dumb mistakes, including you Mr. Perfect.

Only when applicable.

Oh, and a little advice: Every time you reference that grandfather, who was born 100 years ago, is essentially smarter than you and gave you wise advise that you admittedly ignored on several occasions apparently, only makes you appear as a bigger dumbass than previously thought.

Just a heads up.

BossChief 09-17-2012 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otter (Post 8919754)
The easiest route is to stop going to games. I know, it's totally silly logic to think Crennel, that didn't didn't win a playoff game his whole coaching career and he's at retirement age, was going to turn the team around but maybe history does repeat itself like all the old philosophers and historians say it does.

I didn't believe my grandfather a couple times either but if I would have listened I'd absolutely be better off in life right now. Maybe it's sometimes smarter to listen and learn than pretend you know what you're doing without a clue as this team is so very well versed.

Or hell, maybe they don't even care but if they do, they're 15 year olds trying to tell the world how championships are won.

Have you taken a glance at the club section lately? Those seats are 2:1 more expensive than the average seat in the place and they are almost completely empty and with the way this team has started the year, they will only be more and more empty going forward.

The premium seating in the stadium is where the real money is and that's why they added so much more premium seating when they did the renovations.

It wouldn't matter if the third level is empty and nearly all of the LL seats are already paid for via STH.

The REAL way to hit these guys where it would possibly make a difference is with their TV deals and sponsors.

Those can be effected by their target audience revolting due to valid reasoning.

New World Order 09-17-2012 01:35 AM

What if we did a billboard right along I 70 around the Chiefs stadium? I believe its 1k- 1500 for a month, we could easily come together and get that, 1 month would be all we need.


Picture of his face then "Are you tired of the same old thing? Fire Scott Pioli" etc..

Otter 09-17-2012 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8919766)
Only when applicable.

Oh, and a little advice: Every time you reference that grandfather, who was born 100 years ago, is essentially smarter than you and gave you wise advise that you admittedly ignored on several occasions apparently, only makes you appear as a bigger dumbass than previously thought.

Just a heads up.

Thanks for heads up Mr. LA. We're different creatures and if we ever meet I'll buy you a good micro-brew if ya let me and we'd probably get along fine face to face. You have a big ego, which is most likely needed in your line of work that I don't get along with too well.

Love ya Dane! :thumb:

Otter 09-17-2012 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8919768)
Have you taken a glance at the club section lately? Those seats are 2:1 more expensive than the average seat in the place and they are almost completely empty and with the way this team has started the year, they will only be more and more empty going forward.

The premium seating in the stadium is where the real money is and that's why they added so much more premium seating when they did the renovations.

It wouldn't matter if the third level is empty and nearly all of the LL seats are already paid for via STH.

The REAL way to hit these guys where it would possibly make a difference is with their TV deals and sponsors.

Those can be effected by their target audience revolting due to valid reasoning.

I haven't been to a game in Arrowhead since 2003. How are those seats filled if their so expensive and the team sucks?

DaneMcCloud 09-17-2012 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otter (Post 8919771)
Thanks for heads up Mr. LA. We're different creatures and if we ever meet I'll buy you a good micro-brew if ya let me and we'd probably get along fine face to face. You have a big ego, which is most likely needed in your line of work that I don't get along with too well.

Love ya Dane! :thumb:


My post wasn't meant as an insult.

Hammock Parties 09-17-2012 01:47 AM

Quote:

he spends his own time compiling ultimately meaningless statistics in an attempt to spin unpopular draft choices and questionable spending habits into a more favorable light.
Jesus. ****ing. Christ.

He's Carl II, Nerd Edition.

Carl had someone do that FOR HIM.

BossChief 09-17-2012 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otter (Post 8919775)
I haven't been to a game in Arrowhead since 2003. How are those seats filled if their so expensive and the team sucks?

They are a ****ing ghost town.

That's my whole point.

Id have to crunch the numbers, but just one example is that for the price of one game ticket in the club section, you can get season tickets in the upper level.

My point is that "just dont show up to the games" probably wont have as big of an impact as some might think.

Clarks profit in the ticket sales comes in if/when the team is actually worth paying good money from the rich parts of Kansas and Missouri (and even more so, corporate sponsors wanting the luxury boxes he just built) to watch.

Taking it a step further...even if he were to sell out the gold club level with the necessary CONTRACTS that are required to purchase them...that amount pales in comparison to the REAL money which is from the TV deals and sponsors.

Otter 09-17-2012 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8919776)
My post wasn't meant as an insult.

No worries mate.

Otter 09-17-2012 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8919779)
They are a ****ing ghost town.

That's my whole point.

Id have to crunch the numbers, but just one example is that for the price of one game ticket in the club section, you can get season tickets in the upper level.

My point is that "just dont show up to the games" probably wont have as big of an impact as some might think.

Clarks profit in the ticket sales comes in if/when the team is actually worth paying good money from the rich parts of Kansas and Missouri to watch.

I'm not familiar with the economics of Arrowhead either but if people stop paying for parking and $10 beers it's going to make a difference. The corporate box seats only go so far.

It's bed time for me and yes, **** this team. I'm sick of them too.

Hammock Parties 09-17-2012 02:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 8918031)
I love this. I love it. I was at a bar with Chiefs fans today, and I actively cheered for both the Stevie Johnson touchdown and the return TD by McKelvin.

LMAO

The most excited I've been about this team this year was Cassel's pick six in preseason.

I knew it was the beginning of the end.

mikey23545 09-17-2012 02:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8919766)
Only when applicable.

Oh, and a little advice: Every time you reference that grandfather, who was born 100 years ago, is essentially smarter than you and gave you wise advise that you admittedly ignored on several occasions apparently, only makes you appear as a bigger dumbass than previously thought.

Just a heads up.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8919696)
No ****ing way.

There's FAR more to being a great head coach than just X's and O's. There's the ability to be a nice, normal human being and managing people.

Haley was none of the above.



This is you saying that? Really?

DaneMcCloud 09-17-2012 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikey23545 (Post 8919796)
This is you saying that? Really?

Go **** yourself, you worthless ****ing maggot.

BigMeatballDave 09-17-2012 02:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8919790)
LMAO

The most excited I've been about this team this year was Cassel's pick six in preseason.

I knew it was the beginning of the end.

My brother and I laughed out loud when they returned the kick for a TD.

All we can do is laugh now.

Brees is gonna throw for 400+.

I'm actively rooting for blow outs now.

No one should keep their job after this mess.

http://www.gtotoy.com/wp-content/upl...pster-Fire.jpgBURN BABY, BURN!

BillSelfsTrophycase 09-17-2012 02:33 AM

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Hammock Parties 09-17-2012 02:34 AM

It's so nice that we're all in this together again.

Missed you guys!

Titty Meat 09-17-2012 02:35 AM

GoChiefs was right http://imageshack.us/a/img688/7248/maruseesu2.png

Hammock Parties 09-17-2012 02:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay (Post 8919805)

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BossChief 09-17-2012 02:46 AM

***TIN FOIL HAT THOUGHTS UPCOMING***

Is it possible that Romeo is calling poor defensive games this AND LAST YEAR while Cassel is starting because he WANTS Cassel to fail?

If so, I'm in full support.

Think about it for a bit before you respond that I'm just throwing out some dumbass shit.

Romeo called passive defenses last year UNTIL CASSEL WENT DOWN WITH A BROKEN HAND...once he did, he started calling some damn good defensive games and the defense ended the year on a real hot run...ESPECIALLY WITH ORTON AT QB. cough cough GB game Cough cough.

Cassel returns this season and Romeo goes back to calling more passive games.

Couple that with his comments about Cassel at the scouting combine "Matt Cassel is the teams starter until we get another quarterback"
Couple that with his comments about Orton "I wouldn't have my job if it weren't for Kyle Orton"
Couple that with Tamba Halis comments after the GB game about Orton "this is the first time in years we have had a quarterback be able to give us some rest on defense because he could extend drives"
Couple that with the comments he made about Peyton Manning "we would be fools not to pursue Manning"
Couple that with his comments about RG3 "RG3 is the type of player you move up and get"

Is it possible that Romeo is actively TRYING to expose Cassel as quickly as he can by calling defenses that will yield points and expose Cassel?

I honestly think its a real possibility.

Hammock Parties 09-17-2012 02:51 AM

Romeo, the truest Patriot of them all, throwing wooden shoes, or "sabot" into the machine.

Hence the word, sabotage.

/star trek reference

BossChief 09-17-2012 02:55 AM

I mean, he knows Pioli is watching. He has to be methodical and slick with the way he does it.

If I am Romeo and I want Cassel gone and know its gonna have to be REALLY BAD to get him out of there...this is EXACTLY what I would be doing to get rid of him.

EVERYONE knows Cassel isnt gonna lead a team from behind.

There is NO DOUBT that Romeos play calling was TOTALLY DIFFERENT after Cassel got hurt last year.

NONE.

Hammock Parties 09-17-2012 03:11 AM

Romeo has a secret meeting with Clark Hunt.

Pioli is fired the next day.

Romeo named interim GM.

Quinn named starter.

Chiefs win 12 of next 14 games.

Lose in first round.

Hammock Parties 09-17-2012 03:15 AM

I just realized you actually lost our bet. Cassel's QB rating was 83.5. (It had to be 84.1)

So put this in your goddamn sig:

http://i.imgur.com/esZpd.gif

BillSelfsTrophycase 09-17-2012 03:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8919819)
Romeo, the truest Patriot of them all, throwing wooden shoes, or "sabot" into the machine.

Hence the word, sabotage.

/star trek reference


They don't win a playoff game in 20 years, and we still watch

They refuse to draft a first round QB, and we still watch

Not this time. The line must be drawn here! This far, no further! And I will make them pay for what they have done!

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/jyDbfCbQnH8/0.jpg

King_Chief_Fan 09-17-2012 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8919816)
***TIN FOIL HAT THOUGHTS UPCOMING***

Is it possible that Romeo is calling poor defensive games this AND LAST YEAR while Cassel is starting because he WANTS Cassel to fail?

If so, I'm in full support.

Think about it for a bit before you respond that I'm just throwing out some dumbass shit.

Romeo called passive defenses last year UNTIL CASSEL WENT DOWN WITH A BROKEN HAND...once he did, he started calling some damn good defensive games and the defense ended the year on a real hot run...ESPECIALLY WITH ORTON AT QB. cough cough GB game Cough cough.

Cassel returns this season and Romeo goes back to calling more passive games.

Couple that with his comments about Cassel at the scouting combine "Matt Cassel is the teams starter until we get another quarterback"
Couple that with his comments about Orton "I wouldn't have my job if it weren't for Kyle Orton"
Couple that with Tamba Halis comments after the GB game about Orton "this is the first time in years we have had a quarterback be able to give us some rest on defense because he could extend drives"
Couple that with the comments he made about Peyton Manning "we would be fools not to pursue Manning"
Couple that with his comments about RG3 "RG3 is the type of player you move up and get"

Is it possible that Romeo is actively TRYING to expose Cassel as quickly as he can by calling defenses that will yield points and expose Cassel?

I honestly think its a real possibility.

tin foil indeed
A coach intentionally submarining an entire team? That is more likely to get himself fired than Cassel replaced. It is clear that RAC is a no talent coach taking his orders from Pioli. He is Pioli's butt boy

Black Bob 09-17-2012 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8919816)
***TIN FOIL HAT THOUGHTS UPCOMING***

Is it possible that Romeo is calling poor defensive games this AND LAST YEAR while Cassel is starting because he WANTS Cassel to fail?

If so, I'm in full support.

Think about it for a bit before you respond that I'm just throwing out some dumbass shit.

Romeo called passive defenses last year UNTIL CASSEL WENT DOWN WITH A BROKEN HAND...once he did, he started calling some damn good defensive games and the defense ended the year on a real hot run...ESPECIALLY WITH ORTON AT QB. cough cough GB game Cough cough.

Cassel returns this season and Romeo goes back to calling more passive games.

Couple that with his comments about Cassel at the scouting combine "Matt Cassel is the teams starter until we get another quarterback"
Couple that with his comments about Orton "I wouldn't have my job if it weren't for Kyle Orton"
Couple that with Tamba Halis comments after the GB game about Orton "this is the first time in years we have had a quarterback be able to give us some rest on defense because he could extend drives"
Couple that with the comments he made about Peyton Manning "we would be fools not to pursue Manning"
Couple that with his comments about RG3 "RG3 is the type of player you move up and get"

Is it possible that Romeo is actively TRYING to expose Cassel as quickly as he can by calling defenses that will yield points and expose Cassel?

I honestly think its a real possibility.

LMAO

bevischief 09-17-2012 06:49 AM

Get Sunday ticket so you don't have to watch another game day abortion.

KCUnited 09-17-2012 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8919816)
***TIN FOIL HAT THOUGHTS UPCOMING***

Is it possible that Romeo is calling poor defensive games this AND LAST YEAR while Cassel is starting because he WANTS Cassel to fail?

If so, I'm in full support.

Think about it for a bit before you respond that I'm just throwing out some dumbass shit.

Romeo called passive defenses last year UNTIL CASSEL WENT DOWN WITH A BROKEN HAND...once he did, he started calling some damn good defensive games and the defense ended the year on a real hot run...ESPECIALLY WITH ORTON AT QB. cough cough GB game Cough cough.

Cassel returns this season and Romeo goes back to calling more passive games.

Couple that with his comments about Cassel at the scouting combine "Matt Cassel is the teams starter until we get another quarterback"
Couple that with his comments about Orton "I wouldn't have my job if it weren't for Kyle Orton"
Couple that with Tamba Halis comments after the GB game about Orton "this is the first time in years we have had a quarterback be able to give us some rest on defense because he could extend drives"
Couple that with the comments he made about Peyton Manning "we would be fools not to pursue Manning"
Couple that with his comments about RG3 "RG3 is the type of player you move up and get"

Is it possible that Romeo is actively TRYING to expose Cassel as quickly as he can by calling defenses that will yield points and expose Cassel?

I honestly think its a real possibility.

Dude, stop. Romeo is a soft buffon that the game has passed by and that is the reason we're continually getting our shit pushed in.

Dave Lane 09-17-2012 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 8919770)
What if we did a billboard right along I 70 around the Chiefs stadium? I believe its 1k- 1500 for a month, we could easily come together and get that, 1 month would be all we need.


Picture of his face then "Are you tired of the same old thing? Fire Scott Pioli" etc..

Boy you people do not know advertising, try 3-5K depending on location and they want a 1-3 year commitment

the Talking Can 09-17-2012 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8919816)
***TIN FOIL HAT THOUGHTS UPCOMING***

Is it possible that Romeo is calling poor defensive games this AND LAST YEAR while Cassel is starting because he WANTS Cassel to fail?

If so, I'm in full support.

Think about it for a bit before you respond that I'm just throwing out some dumbass shit.

Romeo called passive defenses last year UNTIL CASSEL WENT DOWN WITH A BROKEN HAND...once he did, he started calling some damn good defensive games and the defense ended the year on a real hot run...ESPECIALLY WITH ORTON AT QB. cough cough GB game Cough cough.

Cassel returns this season and Romeo goes back to calling more passive games.

Couple that with his comments about Cassel at the scouting combine "Matt Cassel is the teams starter until we get another quarterback"
Couple that with his comments about Orton "I wouldn't have my job if it weren't for Kyle Orton"
Couple that with Tamba Halis comments after the GB game about Orton "this is the first time in years we have had a quarterback be able to give us some rest on defense because he could extend drives"
Couple that with the comments he made about Peyton Manning "we would be fools not to pursue Manning"
Couple that with his comments about RG3 "RG3 is the type of player you move up and get"

Is it possible that Romeo is actively TRYING to expose Cassel as quickly as he can by calling defenses that will yield points and expose Cassel?

I honestly think its a real possibility.

jesus

it's not a possibility in the worst movie ever much less reality..

Reerun_KC 09-17-2012 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8919816)
***TIN FOIL HAT THOUGHTS UPCOMING***

Is it possible that Romeo is calling poor defensive games this AND LAST YEAR while Cassel is starting because he WANTS Cassel to fail?

If so, I'm in full support.

Think about it for a bit before you respond that I'm just throwing out some dumbass shit.

Romeo called passive defenses last year UNTIL CASSEL WENT DOWN WITH A BROKEN HAND...once he did, he started calling some damn good defensive games and the defense ended the year on a real hot run...ESPECIALLY WITH ORTON AT QB. cough cough GB game Cough cough.

Cassel returns this season and Romeo goes back to calling more passive games.

Couple that with his comments about Cassel at the scouting combine "Matt Cassel is the teams starter until we get another quarterback"
Couple that with his comments about Orton "I wouldn't have my job if it weren't for Kyle Orton"
Couple that with Tamba Halis comments after the GB game about Orton "this is the first time in years we have had a quarterback be able to give us some rest on defense because he could extend drives"
Couple that with the comments he made about Peyton Manning "we would be fools not to pursue Manning"
Couple that with his comments about RG3 "RG3 is the type of player you move up and get"

Is it possible that Romeo is actively TRYING to expose Cassel as quickly as he can by calling defenses that will yield points and expose Cassel?

I honestly think its a real possibility.

I nominate this for the dumbest post in the history of the intrawebs...

Saddest part is BossChief and his CC cronies actually believe this shit...

HOLY Christ. Someone needs to save this message board...

Hammock Parties 09-17-2012 07:53 AM

Do you think Poe, Jackson and Baldwin will be cut by the next regime?

Say Pioli is banned from Arrowhead for life after this season and we hire a new GM.

If we change the defensive scheme Tyson Jackson will probably be cut, especially with his contract.

Baldwin seems to be Charles Rogers pt 2 (not quick enough to get open against NFL CBs) and probably wasn't really all that talented to begin with.

Who knows what becomes of Poe, who was way over drafted and is clearly a major project a new GM might want no part of.

Berry will likely stay.

We might see the first-round picks of the Pioli era quite differently in a year or two.

Hammock Parties 09-17-2012 07:56 AM

**** off, Patriotard Way.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A2_x5WXCMAAVYLB.jpg:large

durtyrute 09-17-2012 07:58 AM

How is Haley playing Palkisy called setting the team up to lose, but Romeo calling cream puff defense not?

I'm not saying he is, shit I don't think Haley did either, but if one is possible then so is the other

Discuss Thrower 09-17-2012 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 8919916)
jesus

it's not a possibility in the worst movie ever much less reality..

Right.. If RAC didn't want Cassel he'd be benched or Romeo would be coaching elsewhere.

Accepting the HC position meant he got Cassel as the QB.

Furthermore, I believe with 88% certainty Haley played Palko because he thought Palko was smart enough for the job and was living vicariously through the noodle arm to an extent.

InChiefsHeaven 09-17-2012 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by durtyrute (Post 8920022)
How is Haley playing Palkisy called setting the team up to lose, but Romeo calling cream puff defense not?

I'm not saying he is, shit I don't think Haley did either, but if one is possible then so is the other

The difference would be that Haley knew he was getting shit canned, so it was a thumb in Pioli's eye. RAC is presumably wanting to keep his job...I believe he is coaching as well as he can. Which is ****ing horrible.

FAX 09-17-2012 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InChiefsHell (Post 8920097)
The difference would be that Haley knew he was getting shit canned, so it was a thumb in Pioli's eye. RAC is presumably wanting to keep his job...I believe he is coaching as well as he can. Which is ****ing horrible.



Yep. That's the most stunning aspect of this entire fiasco, to me.

Crennel is probably giving it everything he's got because he doesn't want to fail again. Unfortunately, the wheels are off and he honestly doesn't seem to know what is wrong ... let alone, how to correct it. In his post-game presser, he said he thought the team was well-prepared and didn't expect this kind of performance. He's been here long enough to know these players and it's odd that he misread the situation to that extent.

I almost feel sorry for the guy.

FAX


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