Boring as hell. Announcers trying to make a race for 8th place sound exciting! I use to love F1 back when they had the V12's and V10's and had to take on FUEL and tires during pit stops.

I'm not a lewis hamilton fan but if you think that last race of last season was legit you are in denial. F1 even admitted it was "human error". Your "Not a little." comment in false and a bald face lie.

In what world should they NOT have waived through lapped traffic? That's par for the course there. And it wasn't Max who caused the safety car - Lafiti screwed up (because, y'know - he's another back-marker that probably doesn't belong out there).

Additionally, when Hamilton put both wheels off the track for a pass of Verstappen, the race stewards made him 'give up the gap' instead of actually surrender the position. Which is damn uncommon.

Hamilton, at WORST, broke even in that race. It's common practice for lapped cars to unlap themselves under the safety car. Had the race stewards NOT allowed it it would've been stranger than anything. And because they dicked up and didn't allow everyone to unlap as soon as the safety car came out, they had to make the 'amended' call to allow only the cars between Hamilton/Verstappen to unlap so that there was still a lap of racing left.

But again - standard procedure just lets everyone unlap at the safety car. It was the steward's decision not to let teams unlap initially that created a problem.

Hamilton got unlucky - he didn't get screwed.

I'm just a drive to survive watcher so I'm as casual a F1 fan as can be but yeah while that was ****ed up, they also helped him earlier in the race when they kept him in 1st even though he ran the curb to pass Verstappen. At the worst they just evened it out.

I'm absolutely loving the midfield racing. Yes, Ferrari ran away with this one in a commanding fashion (damn they are fast, but how the hell does Leclerc not need a neck brace?! :) ). Broadcast has had some really bad f* ups (e.g. too many replays in the last laps), but I love that there showing more midfield racing. I really hope they don't follow Indy broadcasts next year and throw up commercials. :(

The new wheels are going to take me a bit to get used to. They somehow made the cars look visually slower for me.

Here is a double-murder suicide F1 related story from last year -> https://youtu.be/8JSYabGPBxQ

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The mid-pack teams really are interesting this year.

Even Williams has a point. And near as I can tell they don't actually finish races. Haas is managing to not embarrass itself but that's mostly just a product of not have Mezispin anymore. I am a little surprised by how completely ineffective Schumacher has been, though.

Alpine and McLaren are likely to have a heck of a fight for 4th this year. It may come down to Ricciardo vs. Alonso. And while I think Alonso's probably the better pure driver at this point, Ricciardo has 2-3 races every year where he's suddenly just awesome and that may be good enough.

AlphaTauri has an interesting paddock w/ Tsunoda and Gasly. I'm curious of Bottas can do anything for Alfa but with a noob teammate he's going to have some serious work to do.

In the end I think you end up:

Ferrari - Mercedes - Red Bull - McLaren - Alpine - AlphaTauri - Haas - Alfa - Aston Martin - Williams

But lord man, Aston and Williams are going to be so awful this year.

Mick is not close to his dad in talent. Closer to his uncle Ralph

We spent a half dozen race weekends in Kerpen Germany at Michael and Ralphs home kart track while my son was racing. "Kart Klub Kerpen" on the outskirts of town. Mick is a good driver but never really impressed me too much. He went off to F2 because of his name. Same thing Haas is doing.

If you are ever bored look up Kerpen Germany. Michael built a race themed entertainment center there. Rental Karts, Arcade and a couple of restaurants that are darn near 5 stars. That is where our team would end up in the evening. Good times.

Didn't he win the title in F2? Is that as team dependent as F1 is?

Though he wasn't nearly as dominant there as LeClerc was driving for the same team in 2017, so yeah - there does appear to be a talent gap.

I just didn't figure he was a 'get thoroughly outclassed by Magnussen as soon as you have an average teammate' sort of driver. I figured he'd be in the same sort of class. Give him a seat with a little bit of pace and on a good day he can get you a top 10.

I'm just not seeing that from him at all.

Side note - how the hell does one even get into racing? I laugh with my wife about it but I'm only half joking - the 4 yr old is a born wheelman. We put him on a 12v that I slapped a 20v battery in and he'll powerslide that thing through turns. He just has exceptional spatial awareness and is incredibly comfortable driving things. Has been since we put him on those little scooter things.

I friend of ours is a mechanic for a race team that does open wheel dirt stuff in/around the midwest so I figure he's someone I can ask about it one of these days, but the boy really does seem naturally adept at driving stuff and loves to do it. I think he'd be pretty damn good at Kart races and stuff and would have a blast doing it.

"Mezispin". Is he driving a tank this season?

Think we can expect podiums from 4-5 teams this year. Personally I'd like to see McClaren overtake Red Bull, or come even with them, they are about where Ferrari was last year. Pretty sure Red Bull will figure out their system failures soon but right now who knows if they'll finish a race. Meanwhile other teams are claiming their points. Also interested to see how the Mercedes "Patriots" deal with the potential drama now that it doesn't seem they're as invested getting Hamilton a Drivers Championship.

Indycar had a good race yesterday in Long Beach. I know it's not F1 but the racing this season has been pretty good.

Mentoring the next generations of Mazespins...

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Side note - how the hell does one even get into racing? .

KC Kart Club https://www.kckarting.com/ would be a good place to start. They should have kids stuff. Basically they start with Kids Karts ages 5-8 with a glorified weed whacker engine. It is a blast to watch. PM me if you need some advice or guidance.

It can get uber expensive. My son outgrew the local and regional racing so he ran shifter karts nationally and then he went to Europe. He had the talent to compete with guys driving today in Indy and F1 but It is a rich mans sport and Shiver Me Timbers Lumber Company saw it as a bottomless pit.

There is a "Race Dad" from Belgium (close friends with the Verstappan family) who was spending over 1m Euros a year on the boys kart program. They would roll up to races in a rig that looked like it should be at the F1 track. 20 Motors, 20 chassis, 4 mechanics and a chef.

Kart Racing is the purest form of Motorsport- Ayrton Senna

This might clarify how LH was totally screwed by the F1 overlords. -> https://youtu.be/JPUSorCxJSw Also that stupid Spa race they declared a race was a ****ing JOKE and a slap in the face to anyone who watches F1. Two laps behind a "safety car" is not a race. F1 is pulling **** out of their ass.

And Max was screwed when the stewards let Lewis overtake off track and not give back the position.
And Max was screwed when Lewis took him out at Silverstone for the paltry fee of a 10 second penalty.

Whining about Lewis getting screwed by F1 is like whining about Tom Brady getting screwed by the NFL. Here's another useless youtube idiot to prove it.
https://youtu.be/duqAamJ67oI

Hahaha!

Thanks for the $13 million Ruski - now **** off....

https://jalopnik.com/haas-f1-wont-re...ney-1848798004

KMag and Haas will be on the podium at least once this year. What a sea change from 2021.



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The Russians should kidnap Hamilton and shave his vagina while they're holding him for ransom.

This is how I view it. Temptation is to refer to Mercedes as the "Patriots". I don't feel anything personal against Hamilton, but just don't regret anything about his treatment by F1.

BTW recently watched a replay of last year's Monza race, he really is lucky to be alive after that collision with Verstappen.

Eat all the dicks, Daniel Ricciardo.

Overrated clown. Just pinched Sainz off in that chicane and ended his race immediately. Complete trash move and I'm really not sure why the race stewards didn't penalize him for it.

Looked like he just lost a little control coming off the wet curb. I didn't see anything intentional about it. Unfortunate, but not dirty. Braking was a key to this race for a lot of drivers, several went off. I do feel bad for Sainz and Alonso (getting tapped by MSC sucked) though, they've both had pretty unlucky starts to the season and obviously have the pace in their vehicles to do better.

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I didn't think it was intentional - I just thought it was bad driving and simply not necessary that early in the race. Even if Ricciardo takes that position, I doubt he's able to hold it. Sainz appeard to spin the wheels a bit at the start and created an opening for Ricciardo but in the first damn lap, there's no cause for taking it deep into a corner there when you know the conditions aren't great.

Ahh, yeah, don't disagree with that. Seems to be the norm for race starts though, always someone braking too late.

But hey, in the end it was still less aggressive and stupid than LeClerc deciding he needed DRS with 10 laps left in the race and spinning himself in to the wall when he was gaining a second a lap on Perez.

Just WAY too impatient and aggressive. He was lucky to get it back to 6th.

With the impact DRS showed in the sprint down the main stretch, I have no earthly idea why he didn't just bide his time until he had an opening and DRS. He'd have coasted to 2nd.

If Tsunoda ever grows up a bit and gets a big boy drive under him, he's gonna be a handful some day. That kid has really good pace. I'd be fascinated to see what he could do in a McLaren alongside Norris.

I don't know the rationale for gravel that sinks a car like quicksand. Think it's a shame Sainz couldn't re-enter the race.

Agree on all points. Leclerc was way too aggressive way too late. With Sainz out, they should have taken the points instead of trying to go for fastest lap or passing Checo.

I know a lot of people are looking to Gasly to get back to RBR and replace Checo. I don't see that happening. Depending on this year's outcome, I see Checo getting 2 more years and Tsunoda becoming #1 at AT for 2 years and then replacing Checo at RBR.

I've never quite understood the idea that a safety car can't give you a bit of a boost. Just seems like tradition for tradition's sake.

Ricciardo getting to continue because he's the one that punted Sainz around backwards to get stuck while he was able to continue forward through the gravel trap just doesn't make a lot of sense.

But I'm also just kindof a pissed off Ferrari fan right now so there's that...

I just feel like RBR and Mercedes are a bit of a crutch and only really identify if someone is openly awful.

Albon looked competent at Red Bull and I'm just not sure that tells us anything. Whereas I think McLaren is a good team, but not a team that makes a driver look obviously better than he is.

Strictly from a curiosity standpoint, I'd like to see Tsunoda at McLaren because I think it would do a lot to demonstrate how good he truly is.

And frankly I just don't understand McLaren's patience w/ Ricciardo. Apart from the 1-2 races/yr where he looks good for some reason, he's just...there. I don't understand what they see in him. Especially when I think we've watched Norris get better and better there and develop right in front of them while Ricciardo just continues to be the cock-tease he's been his entire career.

Safety / Punishment...
I actually like the grit used at a couple of tracks. **** up and go off track and you flatspot the shit outta your tires. Forced to pit, but at least doesn't result in a red car. I know a lot of people complained about it, but I like it better than gravel. Both are pretty unforgiving. Maybe just have a gravel trap the width of a car, then grit.


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Could be, McLaren definitely hasn't made Ric look any better! We might well be saying the same about Ferrari being a crutch in a few years though. They really seem to have nailed their car, and with the engine freeze inbound I expect the top 3 teams at the end of 22 to likely carry through for a few years.

I'm really interested to see how Tsunoda progresses this year. He's an intriguing driver. Unfortunately I expected a lot more from AT this year.

Yeah, I think this is kind of a now or never year for Ric. I wouldn't be surprised if his replacement is announced at the break. If he continues to under perform that it.

Yeah, any doubts about the halo should be put to rest after that!

Wish Ted's Notebook session weren't region restricted.

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In that video where F1 announced the race in Las Vegas, Ricciardo said he was thinking about retiring after this year but the Vegas race may have changed his mind. His contract with McLaren runs out after next season. He definitely seems to have lost his edge so far this year.

I've been watching the first practice in Miami and the track looks pretty tight, turns 13-16 look like they might be a nightmare during qualifying and it's hot. 120 degrees on the track right now.

Some really wide stretches, definite passing lanes on that circuit.

Slick surface too...be a shame if a Ferrari takes out a mermaid or ends up in the pretend marina.

Heading to Miami in the morning. Will be in Turn 1 North Grandstand. This is a weird track but I’m pumped.

I looked into getting a ticket but it was $600 to get in the door last time I checked Stubhub.

They should move the F1 in Miami to St. Pete. N o need to have artificial water pumped in temporarily. The city has been doing the Indy race for years. Have a good track along the water with the big buildings, yachts, sailboats and open water that looks goof on TV.

People in the reddit sub have been posting prices for merchandise. Absolutely insane. I'm pretty sure Vegas is going to be like this next year, which sucks because I will be going regardless.


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Oh hell yeah, didn’t know we had an F1 thread here!

Today is a huge day for F1 in the US. As superficial, pretentious, and influencer-y as the Miami GP looks to be, this is finishing the job that has been started over the last couple years in increasing popularity for the sport in the states. It was evident at the US GP in Austin last year. Now we’ve got a race on ABC!

Drivers moaning about the track surface:

https://www.planetf1.com/news/proces...track-surface/

This weekend marks Formula 1’s first visit to Miami and while the race has been hyped up, it may turn out to be more of a damp squib than a thriller.

Although the 57-lap grand prix will start with championship leader Charles Leclerc lining up ahead of Carlos Sainz and Max Verstappen, unless those behind make a move off the line, that may be it.

The reason being any driver going off the racing line will pay a heavy price due to the “not F1 standards” track surface that has absolutely no grip and a lot of rubble to go with it.

Hehe. Who's not surprised Tom Brady and Lewis Hamilton are paired up for the cameras during pre-race.

British media guy thought Paolo Banchero was Patrick Mahomes

Yep, I felt bad for the guy. the “let’s see who we can find” bit is dumb. Especially when you get it wrong.

Max looked exhausted getting out of that car.

Dude called him Patrick twice then was like 'you're not Patrick so who are you? '

LMAO

I love the segments when he's chatting with the teams, but I hate F1's obsession with celebrities.

LMAO

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That's Kelce floating around in the background right?

Move this shit then. Miami is the 90’s. It’s time has come and gone. St. Pete has a great well maintained surface. They spend money every year on upgrades. Their goal has always been to get an F1 race. They are pulling 300K visitors on race weekend. F1 needs to upgrade their Florida race city.

The race wasn’t technically in Miami… in terms of the marquee areas such as South Beach, Brickell, etc.

It took place around Hard Rock Stadium in Miami Gardens, which is not exactly prime real estate.

They originally wanted the race to take place in downtown Miami/Biscayne Blvd., but it was rejected by the city.

Best race in a long time today, some great driving drama. Happy for Ferrari and Sainz.

I know most people are probably bored with Max's dominance in the last half dozen races, but I still had a great time in Spa and Zandvoort.

View from our seats at Eau Rouge...
https://i.postimg.cc/c0G2gxcX/SPA-003.jpg

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Looking back after the race gives a better perspective of the incline...
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We had shittier seats at Hairpin in Zandvoort...
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But got to do a pit lane walk and a couple other fun track side activities...
https://i.postimg.cc/NQdQk9Jg/ZV-003.jpg


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yeah it's gotten painfully predictable. No matter what position he begins the race...he's P1 by the end.

Cool pictures, glad you could go. I bet Zandvoort goes nuts.

Yeah, the flares were insane after the race. And I'm super glad they arrested the asshole that through a flare onto the track in FP1.

The weird thing was the constant techno all weekend at both races. Spa was kinda lowkey, even though we had our own DJ for the Eau Rouge grandstand. Zandvoort was at times unbearable with 3 balding old white dudes DJing 50s,60s,70s hits with synth and bass and the volume turned up so loud you couldn't talk to the person next to you. And the fans were just loving it. The Dutch are weird. lol

No bumps this season, eh?

It's been a fun year if you just ignore Max.

And Mercedes/McLaren both have interesting teammate dynamics for different reasons.

Mercedes has a young pup in Russell that feels like he has to prove himself against Hamilton and in the process they keep getting tangled (though I don't think Russell did anything wrong today). And at McLaren they are going to have some real questions to ask themselves if they're in any sort of championship/points fight - might Piastri be better than Lando? If so, does Zak Brown have the stones to create a true team order?

Afterall, Ferrari absolutely refuses to do so and it's taken probably a dozen or more points off the board for them this year. They could be neck and neck with Mercedes for P2 if they'd pick a D1 and adjust strategies accordingly.

And Ferrari...guys, c'mon. I didn't feel like this was a good track for the SF-23 but they had a real disaster on their hands before Russell/Hamilton had their collision. And AFTER the collision, they had a chance to continue to draw closer to Mercedes. As a Ferrari fan, that just annoys the hell out of me. Really - a fuel system issue keeps you off the grid altogether? Dammit guys - that's some Williams shit.

I mean Red Bull has this thing on lock for at least 1 and probably 2 more seasons. They're just way too far ahead of anyone else and the spending caps will keep anyone from catching them in a single season. If anyone gives them a shot next year, it'll actually be McLaren, IMO - because they have the pace especially on fast tracks.

Mercedes doesn't have the pace and Ferrari doesn't have pace without awful tire degradation. I don't know how you just fix that in an offseason or even 2.

With Red Bull so dominant, Ferrari duffing a real chance to put themselves in strong shape for P2 in the constructers is a big deal.

I just got into F1 this year after a coworker recommended the Netflix show. I ordered an official McLaren vest, it looks badass. I can't wear it yet because I bought the wife a matching Ferrari jacket for Christmas.

The state of the drivers after the race yesterday was shocking. Poor Logan Sargeant had to pull into the garage mid race and then could barely stand to get out of the car. Then after the race Albon and Stroll had the same level of exhaustion. Stroll said that the heat and the blood pressure dropping around high speed corner was causing their vision to go blurry and made then feel like they were passing out.

Yeah, one of the drivers noted that the tire limits actually made it far worse because they didn't have to worry about tire degradation so each lap was essentially treated like a qualifying lap.

So they were just pulling heavy G-loads at damn near every turn. Combined with creeping dehydration and yeah, the drivers were just wrecked at the end. Even the guys on the podium were subdued.

Seems to have taken it out of all of them, even the guys in the best shape. Ocon and Leclerc are usually fresh as a daisy after a race and those guys looked wrecked.

When guys are saying "Yeah, that one made Singapore feel easy" then you know you may have asked a bit too much and were lucky to get out of there with as little carnage as you did.

It reminded me of MMA fighters when they are in a tough weight cut before a fight and they come to the scale looking like death.

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Max starts P6 tomorrow. Wonder which lap he’ll be P1 by?

By lap 15, I'm thinking. No one can keep up with the RB19 on the straights...at least when Max is driving.

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The answer is lap 28.

Things looking good for Lando and Lewis. Max’s second mediums falling off.

Probably going to be tough but I would love to see the McLarens challenge Red Bull next year. Only intrigue left this year is what this Vegas race is going to look like.

Anyone watching Formula 1 from Vegas tonight? First F1 race in Las Vegas, for several decades, through the streets of the city no less. Cool to have midnight start time (CST).

I'm watching. Go Fernando!

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Is it PPV or televised?

ESPN ^

This is the first F1 race I've seen. Are the sparks normal, or is something jacked up with the track?

Also, who is Mahomes team's racer?

Alpine - Gasly & Ocon

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Max overtook off-track. Shouldn't he have to give that place back?

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Yeah sparking is normal - downforce and low clearance with these cars.

Mahomes and Kelce are part owners of the Alpine team - it's drivers are Pierre Gasly and Esteban Ocon.

Thanks! 4th and 7th right now.. go go go.

I don't like the start of the circuit at all. Very short run to the first corner.

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This track may eat some guys up.