Yeah, stupid people.

Really? Which QB that was supposed to make the Chiefs competitive over those 6 years?

Which coach was worth a shit?

How is a team supposed to succeed when they don't attack on offense OR defense?

Schemes, and systems designed to play it safe don't typically work unless they are being carried by another part of the football team. When was the last time a timid, play it safe offensive and defensive team did anything of note?

I'll say it nice and slow again, so Knowmo can send me another rep.....

Andy Reid is the best coach in the division. KC has the most individual talent outside of QB. We'll see how that translates onto the field.

No they weren't.

That's bullshit.

Pawnmower really pimped Cassel.

He went down with that ship.

Odd that he doesn't like Smith.

That is strange. Pawn is an enigma though....

It's entirely the fault of whoever isn't on the team anymore.

This place has "pimped" every QB we've carried at some point or another.

Palko, Huard, Thigpen, Cassel, Orton.

Hell, people try to make out Stanzi, Daniel and Bray as great options and they have a combined 9 NFL snaps between them.

Bottom line?

Chiefs QB's are awesome, and unless your name is Manning, Brady, Rodgers or Brees, you ****ing suck.

I was wrong. **** otwp are you ever going to let me live it down?
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But I never liked huard or Palko
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I always found it funny when Hootie went balls deep on Downfield Big Game Huard

Ironically, Orton got the most hate, and was the best of that group, simply because the GM didn't want him, and people really wanted to defend that GM!

In the end there are people who are going to defend what the Chiefs do, regardless of what it is.

And this place has pimped every coach as well.

Haley was going to be more aggressive than Herm's RRPP.

Jim Zorn was going to be great for Cassel's development.

Romeo was going to be the mastermind of a Top 5 defense.


Then when none of those things came anywhere close to happening, they all took the blame - it has to be their fault with all this "talent", right?

LMAO

QB/HC combination.

Brees couldn't do it last year without Sean Payton.

And SP couldn't do it without Brees.

It's like a good director and leading actor.

They feed off each other.

Media sure. They just spout off based on numbers and you know it. The only time most ever had anything good to say about Cassel was post 2010, and most said they were cautiously optimistic.

Just as there will always be pussies (like yourself) that incessantly spew a quitter's attitude... no matter what the Chiefs do. :moon:

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Drew Brees threw for over 5,000 yards and 43 TD's last year.

I'd say he did just fine.

They didn't win.

They were a rudderless ship in the ocean with no direction.

How poetic of you.

That was funny.

Clay was the biggest homer here not long ago.

Now he's just a big hypocrite.

So you admit that you are not reasonable then.
Reasonable is not an extreme. Reasonable is not that there is only one way.
It wouldn't have mattered what this front office did short of drafting a QB that was not worthy of our 1st overall that would have made you or many others happy.

That was 4-5 years ago.

I'm not a hypocrite because I recognize that I was indeed a homer once, and wrong for it.

I made a thread last year admitting my faux pas, yet you still label me a homer.

Do you agree with Marcellus?

Or, you know, the Saints had a historically bad defense last year. Yeah, that has nothing to do with it, does it?

No shit, Sherlock. Wish we had one.
It's okay to grow and learn. And it's definitely okay to be mistrustful of EVERY ****ing thing this organization does, until the day it wins a Super Bowl.

Anytime one agrees with Lil' Marcellus, you KNOW the homer-vision glasses are in full swing.

Worst defense in history.

I mean how bad do you have to be if you lose to the Chiefs in your own stadium.

That's why Spags got canned as soon as HEAD COACH SP came back.

You need both a good QB and a good coach.

You think the Ravens won because of Dilfer?

Then again Brees won 7 games last year without a HC.

We're winning it all this year.

Bank it.

You are lost and clueless.

Per usual.

Coming from an acknowledged TF, I'll take that as the Compliment Of The Day.

More idiocy from the resident reerun.

How do my nuts taste and feel, Dave? You certainly like swinging about from them.

If it is so bad. If this organization is not worthy of your fan trust and they are a ****ing POS then why in the **** don't you stop following them? Why don't you just leave this board and stop being a douche because no one worth a shit wants to keep hearing your stupid ass bantering on about your ****ing hatred.
DON'T GO AWAY MAD!!!!!! JUST GO AWAY!!!!!!!!

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( and it is because he is a loser that is desperate to spread his misery to everyone else... a quitter...a pussy... )

You don't get to make that call, **** face.

Go back to your own team's board. No one loves you and suck so very hard.

:LOL:ROFL:LOL: SDH just got his face punched in!!!

No I don't I was asking you the question. Then giving my opinion. So answer the question.

:spock: Go away.

I believe I have made my position quite clear. And frankly, I don't give two flying shits if you get tired of hearing my bitching. This is sports. It's a sports team message board. People bitch.

And, just you wait until the season actually starts. You might find yourself doing some bitching as well. This club has a good beginner's story, if not one of the best. But the post-Stram years do not tell a glorious tale overall. If you can't see this, then I really don't know what the **** to tell you.
It is my hope that this franchise will someday pull it's head from it's ass and exceed both the Marty and Dickie-doo years, and actually be worthy of some thing more in this league than being "respectable" and "snake-bitten"(which is an absolute ****ing myth perpetrated by ignorant assholes who refuse to acknowledge that this club has all but led the division if not the league in bad decision-making for DECADES).

So forgive me if don't just hop right on the latest Mr. Rodgers Trolley to the merry ****ing Land of Make-Believe.

Bitching about something for a little while is one thing. But it has been 3 months of constant nothing but bitching and bashing from you. You damn right I will bitch here and there but that is all.
It will do no good. I am not in control of this team in anyway. I can either accept that and know that the Chiefs are just entertainment. Entertainment is suppose to be fun. Bitching and acting the way you have been cannot be fun. If it isn't fun then how can it be entertaining.

I don't think there's anyone here that doesn't want Smith to succeed. We've seen before though so it's hard to go all in.

So there is no way any Chief QB can succeed especially if we didn't draft him. As soon as we draft a guy in the 1st round its only a matter of time before the SB trophies and the Hall of Fame become reality.

Yea thats complete bullshit. There are a ton of people more concerned in how the Chiefs win than the team winning.

He just enjoys the attention and thinks its cool. I m pretty sure he is 12.

It's fun for me. And that......is good enough.

It's a start. And the facts and stats don't lie, homeboy.

Me. I don't want Smith to succeed.

ROFL The chances are not very good in any event.

Seek professional help. That is not mentally healthy.

Actually, it's very healthy. By bringing my inner jackass to a pointless message board, I'm able to leave him at home when I venture out in to the real world.

Ok we have a person that is admitting to being a psychotic personality.

:spock: Thanks, Lucy. Shall I PayPal you the .5 cents now or later?

Jaws rated Phyllis Rivers @17. Didn't say much good about him, a pocket passer that depends on good solid line blocking to be productive. Struggles when trying to do too much. Didn't have a good out look for him with the Chargers for 2013 season.

:LOL:ROFL

This team has been "Going Ugly Early" for over 30 years now, it is what they do.

My order of preference:

1) Smith proves everyone wrong and is BETTER in Andy Reid's offense than he was in Jim Harbaugh's. His efficiency holds up when asked to do more, and his atrocious performance on 3rd down becomes a distant memory. He becomes a near-elite/top 15/borderline top 10 QB.

2) Smith is WORSE than he was in Harbaugh's offense, preventing the Chiefs from tying themselves to him long-term.

3) Smith is about the same as he was in Harbaugh's offense, though his efficiency numbers drop when asked to throw more often and be more aggressive with the football. He remains somewhere between the 15th and 22nd best QB in the NFL, good enough to make the playoffs with a strong defense and running game but probably not good enough to win at a significant level when matched up against teams with elite QBs.

If I was to rank them in order of what I think is likely, I put about a 75 percent chance on 3, 20 percent on 2 and 5 percent on 1.

I have a feeling we see an extension if 3 is what ends up happening. And I don't think that's really a good thing (unless they draft the heir apparent in the background and have him ready to take over by 15 or 16).

Even if Smith gets an extension, I doubt it will be anywhere near a legitimate "starter" contract, and instead will be around 7 a year for maybe 2 or 3 years at most. Reid isn't the kind of coach to be ok with mediocre QB play, and will only keep Smith around until a better option arises.

no way Smith gets a contract that small.

It's another way the Smith trade could cost us big.

Smith plays average this year but it's contributed to being on a new team,new scheme and new players etc.

Next year Smith plays average until the final few games. He has a really good 2 or 3 games to finish the season and everyone talks about how they team has now settled in etc and this is the "real" thing.

Alex Smith's contract is now up ... do you really think they can/will not give him a new contract based on those last 2/3 games instead of the rest of the average ones?

boom ... 6 years/60 million

We as much as we traded for Smith the only way(s) we get a franchise QB is if:

1. Smith is a franchise QB
2. we get lucky with a low round guy (ie Bray etc)

either is a long shot imo

Smith should really be in the top ten or so. Jaws has something against the chiefs for some reason.

I wonder who number 1 will be

IR: P. Manning

LMAO

Jesus,

I shudder the thought of Drew Brees retiring.

Las Vegas has the over/under on KC at 6.5 this year. Hooray for spending valuable draft picks to acquire the 20th-rated passer, to accomplish nothing in the short term, and not build for the future. Congratulations, KC!

I'm only going to get worse as our little buddy is back.

You would be wise to dump some money on the over.

Mediocrity has it's price.

I think the Chiefs have 7 solid wins with that scheduled. None against the Broncos, but 7 solid wins.

We'll take you at home at least once. But yes, 7 is the top-out.

10-11 wins is a possibility

9-7 in 2013

11-5 in 2014

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Romo is #15 apparently. Only because of his inconsistency though. I'd take Romo for 2 seconds before I took Alex Smith.

I'm optimistic about this year. Every year I am though. If we surpass two wins I'm celebrating. Baby steps.

Me telling my boss to **** off tomorrow is a possibility.

Mac-Niners becoming halfway intelligent and/or interesting is also a possibility.

The Universe is filled with possibilities!

LMAO

Yeah. Sure thing.

At least once? You only play us at home once.

I meant Arrowhead.

Ive never understood this. Tony Romo has choked in EVERY SINGLE big time game he has been in. Yet people fawn over him. I would NOT take him over Alex Smith, in any game that matters. Never.