He is still around, just posts in Royals thread mainly.

Indeed. You and I have met once, and we had several discussions on here, and I also have somewhat butted heads with Phil, Mecca, Hamas, and some others, and I never met Mecca, Hamas, and Iowanian, but I always come to respect their view points, even if I disagreed with them, I wouldn't resort into personal name calling or attacking the poster in general.

I always try to put out evidence by stats, quotes, whatever I can do to support my argument (or another poster's argument) or attack their POST (not the individual) and if I was wrong by either being called on it, and me double checking my information, or someone provides a new updated/fresh/recent information over mine, I would compare it and see if I feel that I am right or wrong.

If I feel that I'm right, I will continue to respectfully disagree with their viewpoint and explain my thoughts on it as best as I can. If I am wrong, then I man up, admit it, and move on.

Like the discussion you and DJ's Left Nut, that's the type of posts this board is severely lacking these days. Constructed good solid arguments on both sides.

GREAT point....you need to post more...or I need to visit more....

don't apologize for calling taco anything, what a fuktard

Eh, there's probably some truth to that, but I lurked for two years between 2003-2005 because I was afraid of being blasted for being a n00b around here. People were assholes back then just as much as they are now.

Really? You gave out that much neg rep? That's pretty interesting and I'm sure didn't help things much.

And while some of those guys were annoying, I don't think any of them scratched the surface of what DCS did. And you may not have agreed with their posts, but at least they didn't repeat literally the exact same thing in every post.

I think some people get sentimental when someone gets banned. :shrug:

The Internet used to be so much better back before all the trolls.

Apparently you didn't bother to read the last three lines of my post.

Ask the 30-50 guys that are the hardcore football guys on this board.

I rarely got ugly or get ugly towards someone unless that person got nasty first, or refuses to back up his argument.

You may not like it, but I'm not going to bother showing much respect to people whose main argument is, "Do you work in the NFL?" and "PIOLI!"

Not to jump in the middle of this, but you do seem angry.

This is on a tangent, but some guy tweeted at me that I had "lost my burst on CP" but I don't know who the poster was. Whoever it is must use a different name here and on twitter. I thought it was kind of funny.

Surely that doesn't contribute to the decency problem people have been mentioning.

What's his twitter name?

JFC BD, I'd have thought you would have grown up by now...



this is like deja vu all over again, again!!!












the more things change, the more they stay the same...

I'll have to go back and look. It was a few weeks ago.

OTWP, this isn't a discussion about how you debate topics with friends. If we were all friends, there would be no problem. I can think of very few posters who have avoided "attack the poster" mentality.

You were an asshole. Now you're giving yourself an out with a completely bullshit excuse. How do you not see that irony?

You're exactly what you're complaining about.

You know what's funny?

ALL of the negative rep I've given out was between 2004 and 2006 (all 13 or so of them).

I haven't given out a single negative rep since 2006.

I actually went looked at some the posts. A lot of it was racial type slurs towards Sanchez, the Pioli knows more than you, etc. So it was a lot of stuff that was repeated over and over. Ironically most of the neg rep in 2008 was to DCS.

Suggesting that someone doesn't have a right to their opinion because they're not employed by an NFL team isn't insulting to you?

I don't back up my arguments with facts, stats and evidence?

Interesting.

AOL ruined the internet.

Lack of accountability right here.
Man you have a lot of good football knowledge and all that but you were one of the most hateful, rude, and nasty people back then. During that time frame I didn't post much during the day. By the time the evening, after work, rolled around and myself and others would post or ask something and you would go straight to the nasty shit.
You don't have to respect someones opinions in order to have a little self control. If you are tired of repeating yourself or defending your position then step away don't take it out on others.

This is completely untrue. Many people have noticed the change for sometime now and have posted on it. You can just go LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA really loud and call people pussies for noticing it but it doesn't change a thing.

no surprise

You know, popular music today sucks.

I'm going to make a great analogy that Big Daddy needs to read and digest:

Roughly 35 years ago I took up golf. I sucked balls when I first played but I practiced and finally started "fitting in" at the closest public golf course with the locals who had been there for years and my closest friends who already played with them and are excellent golfers. I was a Noob

Over the years they accepted me into their group and we all grew close, hung out after the round to drink, went out to dinner together, and also took golf vacations together. There were 24-26 of us each Sat and Sun morning, first 5-6 groups off the tee.

Then time passed.....

Guys gave up golf or played less, some moved, some got married and couldn't play as much, some died, and after a while the dynamics changed and so did the group.

I had a choice-stop playing golf or accept the changes. I choose to keep playing golf and have fun with whoever I played with and avoid playing with someone who was either a pain in the ass or a hot head on the course.

While I would have loved to keep the same 'ol gang, it wasn't meant to be.

The lesson of the story is simple, times change and you can either accept them or move on....

Your choice Big Daddy! ;)

Pop music has always sucked. LMAO

Yeah, that's the part I was talking about. LMAO


There are none so blind as those who will not see.

I won't even begin to say we didn't have our pricks even in the early days. But we didn't tolerate the crappy behavior that seems to be the norm these days.

If I can elaborate using my "sports bar" comparison in the other thread. I'm not against a bar fight or 2 in here, it's part of what is expected when you come to a place like this. But when the new kid stands up and pisses on the poo table you don't turn the other way and pretend the sprinklers broke and that is why the pool table got wet. YOU KICK HIS A$$ OUT until he learns normally accepted behavior.

I am proud that I received a rare appearance of your ugliness...

What? Where did you come up with that idea?

I joined here as a total homer the day after the 2004 season ended in a flop.

Unicorns and rainbows is all I knew, and I was led to the education alter fairly quickly.

Its all good, and I am glad it happened that way even though it was a little rough for me to understand at the time.

If anyone would have started a rep whoring thread back then, it would have gotten pretty ugly.

I think where your excellent analogy falls off the tracks is when your 24-26 friends leave (for whatever reasons) and the new crowd of 2983459898 dipshits come through and want to tee off before you, at the same time as you, and right after you, hurrying you along the entire round.

I could see how you would think that. I'm an abrasive person IRL too. People either love me or they hate me. I'm also fairly aggressive so if someone comes at me then they're going to get both barrels.

:thumb:


All yours.

I beg to differ...I think it was CompuServe or Net Zero that ruined the internet.

I see just fine. Feel free to keep cherry picking.

I'm not going to apologize for calling a spade a spade.

If you can't formulate an argument beyond, "do you work in the NFL?" then yeah, I probably called you a dumbshit.

Because people who refuse to back up their positions with stats, facts and evidence and rely on "I think", "do you work in the NFL?" or "PIOLI" are, wait for it:

Dumbshits.

You keep making my point. Do continue, please, because it's truly hilarious.

ROFL

Netscape ruined it for me, at least from my own experience....

Just because you see it as a spade, makes it a spade? um....no.

I was a lurker all the way back in 2003 and didn't really start to post until a couple years ago. But Chiefsplanet has always had its bullies. Anyone remember a guy named Voyager? He would get DESTROYED every time he posted, and he only posted about football topics, not politics, just football. The dude got his shit handed to him and he only wanted to talk football, and this was back in the earlier days.

To me there is nothing wrong with "I think" because someone is expressing an opinion at that point. Honestly stats are great, but no different than looking at a companies balance sheet, they can hide some flaws in thinking.

You call it a bullshit excuse. I disagree.

Anything else you'd like to argue about?

There are Lies, there are Damn Lies, and then there are Statistics.
Never did want to believe in the one statistic that proved to be true about USC QBs.

I don't want to get into a full Sanchez rehash, but the stats were against the pro-Sanchez group. Between the bust rate of 1st round QBs, the struggles of USC QBs and the problems with QBs with so few starts, the numbers were stacked against Sanchez, and those arguments were made time after time.

So, when OTW tries blaming his hostilities of the time on people who were hiding behind NFL job or Pioli comments, OTW is just being full of shit.

CP was much better when we all hung out in person instead of on CP!!!

Blame Al Gore, he invented the Damn thing.

That's fine, until you rely on nothing more than "I think."

"I think" with some support is great. "I think" on it's own? Weak.


Who has the more powerful argument:

Lawyer A: Ladies and Gentlemen of the jury, I think my client is innocent.

Lawyer B: Ladies and Gentelmen of the jury, I think my client is innocent, and here's the evidence to back up that claim.


You were here then - you know damn good and well that there were a metric ****ton of "Lawyer A's" running around in 2009/2010.

And then they all had the nerve to act as if they were right all along when the shit started hitting the fan a few years later. Priceless.

He is down playing how nasty he was for sure.

I get that dude. The reason I have posted so much less is simply because I have very little time. It is far less enjoyable being troll central however. When I get more time again someday maybe I will just buy it and do whatever the **** I want. j/k

Actually that would make a good thread. If CP was yours tomorrow, what would you do?

It would be beneficial to CP if you could display more of your loveable qualities.

I see that thread a lot, but I have them all on ignore. :D

fify

The same could have been said for Cassel. Both sides were wrong.

It didn't prove to be true, and it was ignored then because it's a ****ing ridiculous assertion.

Each pro career for USC QB's are completely independent of each other.

There's a huge difference between a trend and undeniable fact, and the folks that relied on this argument fail to realize that.

If they were correct, high school QB's with dreams of playing pro ball would avoid USC like the plague.

But they don't, because it appears high schoolers are smarter than the people clinging to this pathetic argument.

And here I sat, thinking you forgot about me...

Well, it would definitely be beneficial to CP if you could display more of your loveable assets.

Just sayin'.

















:D

Because there's a shortage of naked women on the internets...

That wasn't ever the problem. Nobody ever said you didn't or couldn't make a case. The problem was that people still didn't believe in Sanchez even though you attempted to sway them. After they proved that they didn't believe, you turned to all the name calling and we are not talking about dumbshit or dumbass. You and others said way worse. You guys went personal.
Then when Sanchez has been proven a bust, the naysayers were proven correct and you get left looking....even worse.

Fixed your post.

So what you're saying is, you enjoyed ChiefsPlanet more when you were around a lot and got to know people a little better?

Funny how that works.

Yea, you are a real terrorist in your own mind. Actually you probably exemplify the new troll CP better than anyone.

Of course you didn't prove the trend to be true. You couldn't do that. It was only ridiculous to you because of your position then.
Trends are an important factor to look at and evaluate into any decision that is made. There is a long standing trend with QBs like Sanchez that fit several areas of concern. He is a bust and has continued to add to the trend of USC QBs and QBs with short term starting.

I've been posting for a few years. Seems the same as it ever was to me.

No what I said is actually what I meant. Many people notice the difference, let's not pretend it doesn't exist. Just my 2 cents

How is "Cassel played well in N.E., so give him a chance instead of wasting a pick on Sanchez." wrong? That's like saying it takes two to tango because someone defends themself from a person who breaks into their house.

I'm not talking about me, by the way. I gave as good as I got, and I've got no problem with that. I'm talking about so many others who got piled on by that crew.

You obviously don't understand diagnosis or treatment either. My point is you need some pussy so that frown will turn upside down. Tell your wife to quit studying so much or learn to do two things at once.

I suspect if you'd get laid that a lot of your anger would dissipate. Clay's seemed to.

I did the same.

It would be beneficial to your posting to just ignore me if you don't like me.

Wouldn't you rather have a face to face conversation with me someday? You think you could look Rain Man in the face if you knew what his dick looked like?

This is my view as well. It started a "you're with us or you're against us" mentality.

As has been mentioned, the Star and other articles never get posted anymore for healthy football discussion.

Everything seems to be are you in camp A or camp B? Do you love Alex or want him gone? Same for McCluster, Bowe, Clausen, Sanchez, Geno, Hali temporarily, Fisher and all the others.

Every single topic/player is treated as pick a side and fight to the death. So many threads divide CP into two opposing factions with no room for moderate opinions.

For example, my take on Alex Smith right now would probably be "not all 32 teams can have a top 5 qb, and nobody has a crystal ball to say he can't get hot and do well enough to win a superbowl, so let's enjoy the ride, he's working out pretty well so far." This would put me in the "true fan can't endure a rookie qb growing pains" camp and I'd be sent over to the "pro Alex Smith" group because it has to be one or the other, even though I also would have been okay with drafting Geno Smith. It's a tough call and there's no sure right or wrong answer, but that opinion is no longer acceptable.

Maybe if I said it in Spanish?

LOL There are still people who think drafting Sanchex was still the right thing to do. At least we tried!

And at the time of all this arguing, what was Sanchez doing?

Going to back-to-back AFCCG's as a rookie and 2nd year player - with a 61% completion percentage and a 3:1 ratio.

So at the time, your arguments were dead wrong. If any of them carried any weight, he wouldn't have been successful his first two years in the league.

Most people aren't big fans of 1 year starters at QB...

You could take your own advice here, with regards to Frazod.

Says the guy who wanted Aaron Curry because his intense eyes in a YouTube clip.

Exhibit A - Backing up your claim.

Who are these people?

Name them.

This thread reminds me of the scene in Beerfest when they get their team together to begin training with their first keg. First it was all serious. Then they got lovey dovey. Then the started to fight. Finally they made up and passed out.