He stopped the coke in the early 80's. The death of Belushi and birth of his son woke him up. He never returned to cocaine. Alcohol he returned to after years of not drinking.

Fixed :thumb:

still those addiction issues are a sign of individuals who are dependent on escaping reality because of a bipolar personality

Well yeah. I think he chose alcohol as his poison though instead later on. He was sober for a long time though.

Hangover depression for a long time alcoholic is an entirely different beast of sick and irrational thinking.

I've had it twice in my life, following severe losses in life. Both times I didn't want to live. I eventually moved out of both the first one taking 3 months for the worst of it to pass, with improvements over a year with it getting less and less. The second was really rough and I was older. That took 4 years to get through completely. Much longer than the first. Occasionally, if I focus on it or am put in a situation to talk of the events, brings back some anger or melancholy but I'd rather just move on. Time can be your friend. The first was age 20 with the break-up of an engagement the second was severe financial losses from fraud and embezzlement of a significant amount of money leaving me broke. It can be overcome but everyone's different.

This will be my last comment on this because quite honestly I'd prefer to focus on more positive and entertaining things on my day off.

Many posters responding to me seem to have the opinion that I'm ignorant of depression/bipolar disorder or have no experience with it.

Quite the opposite. I'm not going to get into a pissing contest over who's pain is greater or "true fan" arguments over mental health.

I'm not saying depression isn't real, isn't serious, or isn't dangerous. Quite the opposite - and frankly I think the almost forgiving attitude towards suicide is dangerous itself.

I'm saying not everyone, or even most people, that get it kill themselves. Death is not the definitive outcome to this illness...

Anyone else notice that ever since the Jacko death we have to hear about it for weeks every time a celeb dies? Enough already....

If the brain is broke, how can it make correct decisions? Truly understand a thing? Make good rational decisions?

Drugs ruin this country. They need to be eliminated all together. Drug dealers should get life in the pokey. Its that simple

How are you supposed to jerk off pigs if they're fixed?!?!

What an effective strategy. Why haven't we tried that already!

I read he hadn't relapsed though. Even when he admitted himself
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Yea the war on drugs. What an effective program. :thumb:

QFT

yet Bieber lives...


:facepalm:

Penalties for dealers are already substantial. Still, for the most part, we're filling our prisons with users, not dealers. How 'bout we consider treating addiction as a health problem instead of a law enforcement problem? How 'bout we start treating addicts and their disease instead of incarcerating them?

Damn right. Anyone with a lick of sense can see the danger you point out. If we continue to show sympathy for sick people who commit suicide, pretty soon healthy people will want to try it too.

All my life I have been crushed with depression. Obviously ms paint is where I got some relief. I had been sober for 4 years after being totally lit up on booze and Nyquil and whatever I could shove down my pie hole. Anyway my depression was bad this year with nothing around me being bad. I had girlfriend, no legal trouble, no problems except for my actual brain being shitty. It was laughable because I could see how terrible my brain is. I went to the doctor and got put on lexipro low dosage and I got some relief. I have had anxiety and depression crush me al my life. I am lucky to be able to separate real from reality depression. Feel bad for the situation, I am sure he had suffered enough.

:LOL::LOL:
That's just utterly ridiculous.

Yes. It truly is.

That would make too much sense.

Throwing addicts in jail instead of treating the disease of addiction is one of if not the most idiotic counterproductive things we do in this country.

Addicts and boozers are liars. At least with jail time sometimes it crushes them into getting help. I could see a bunch of people getting treatment instead of jailtome but not really wanting to get better.

QFT

WOW

Maybe you should.....eh.....just nevermind.

Robin Williams and Why Funny People Kill Themselves

Read more: http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/r...#ixzz3AFAo9K4g

He is not dead. He is stuck in the jungle waiting for someone to roll a 5 or 8.

All true. But with treatment, at least some will get clean enough long enough to want to stay that way. Will a large fraction take treatment instead of jail even though they have no interest in getting well? Yes. Does a large fraction do jail time now without wanting to stop doing crime when they get out? Also yes. So maybe it's something of a wash. Maybe not. I can't know the numbers.

I'm not hoping for a one-size-fits-all answer for every problem. This much is certain: Felony convictions seriously damage people's chances of reentering productive society. Young users who enter the legal system have a very hard time working their way out of it. I am hoping to offer rescuable people a way back into productive lives before their futures are irretrievably lost. Once we've tried, it's really up to them to do what they will with the chance they're offered.

I am not against giving treatment, but I know the hard core people who get sober and get depression help often use hard ass jail time to make them get .a wake up call. So at-least I see positives in it making people I come in contact get their shit together instead of a pansy treatment center.

No, no. He's dead right. Addicts and boozers are remarkably adept liars and manipulators when they're living in their addictions. And they're often just as remarkably honest when they're living in recovery.

Get out of my head.
Seriously, very well put.

Oh, I agree. It's just his overall attitude I have a problem with.

I agree that we'd have to keep hard prison time as an option for those that don't respond to treatment for their illness.

I've volunteered some of my time at several treatment centers. Some would definitely fit on the pansy side of the comfort scale. Some others are lockdown facilities that are just one step short of jail.

If we decide to treat addiction as a health problem, we'll have to also accept that patients are not prisoners (yet), so I'm not concerned that places that treat illness don't look and feel like a Supermax. Nor do I think patients need an ocean view to get well. I'd hope for something that looks and feels very much like a medical facility.

I don't see anything wrong with it. Not everyone is strong and can make it.

I had a close friend who fell into depression because she couldn't have kids and she and her husband just couldn't get ahead and she got laid off. One day, she left counseling, grabbed a cab and drove from Phoenix to the Hoover Dam overpass (280 miles). Got out of the cab and jumped. Saw her just the night before and she was happy as a clam. Then, just like that, she was gone. Forever. This was last January.

Here is the story. She is in all black with the cab in the background. This one was hard to grasp for me.

http://www.casino.org/news/suicide-o...s-dirty-secret

You can see her 'happy' here:

https://www.facebook.com/chris.papayoti?fref=ts I've never known a man who loved his wife more than Chris. Almost nauseating at times.

Had 2 close friends in grade school kill themselves, a week apart, in some sort of suicide pact. The 3 of us were best friends. Had NO idea what was going on. But everyone thought I was next. That sucked too.

Me, as a creative person, have had my fair share of bad, bad thoughts.

On a side note, weed (Sativa) is wonderful for depression.

This kid I went to HS with committed suicide. He had just graduated college, got a new job/House, and was about to be married. He went to St. Louis to do some last minute things for his wedding. They found him hanging in his hotel room. It didn't make any sense. He was picked on a lot in school but he had already moved on, it was very weird.

Looks like he's getting an NPC avatar in World of Warcraft.

Pretty cool. Blizzard will do it.

BUT, I am NOT getting sucked back into that game.

I read Williams had financial problems. Could have been the trigger. Anyhow, his death is sure overshadowing yesterday's death of Lauren Bacall.

I about posted a picture of my notebooks that along with my lexipro I have a strict writing routine where I often write the same things over and over throughout my day to keep my mind from going to dark places. Most people are like horrified that this is the way I live my life, but it is not to shabby. I have an apartment, friends, sometimes girlfriend, and I do get relief from talking about it. It is exhausting staying on top of it sometimes. So I can understand getting crushed to the point where enough is enough.

Spoken like a normie...Depressed people can be free being poor as hell and in deep legal financial trouble, and have all the money in the bank and want to kill themselves. It knows no outside forces. All internal brosef.

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Hope you don't hate me for saying you're pathetic.

Get your ****ing mind off yourself for about ten minutes and you might find there's a world out there.

Oops, I guess I'm a normie.

I remember when penz was funny.

penz is still hilarious.

Normie?

Right. Mikey is off base here.

Is Dane his neighbor by any chance?

non-magic folk

No kidding. But normie? I've already posted my own personal experiences with depression. But some are more prone to deal with the slings and arrows of life in a certain way too. Not all depression originates internally,sometimes some losses can trigger it as it did in my case. My point was he was an alcoholic who was sober for many, many years. It was reported he was encountering financial problems which may have triggered a relapse into his drinking again after many, many years of sobriety. Just being the messenger.

He is always off base.

Robin Williams Had ‘Serious Money Troubles’ In Months Before His Death, Claims Friend — Was The Pressure Too Much?

...a source close to the Mrs. Doubtfire star tells RadarOnline.com that in addition to his addiction struggle, the actor recently confided to a family friend that he had “serious money troubles,” and was worried about his family’s financial security.

According to a family friend who had spoken to Williams recently, “All he could talk about were serious money troubles. There were clearly other issues going on and Robin sounded distant during the telephone conversation. Robin was known for being so generous to his friends and family during the height of his success, and would help anyone out that needed it.”

There was also frustration that Robin expressed at having to take television and movie roles he didn’t want to take, but had to for the paycheck,” the source said, referencing his recently announced decision to film Mrs. Doubtfire 2. “Doing sequels was never Robin’s thing, and he wasn’t that excited at having to reprise the role of Mrs. Doubtfire, which was scheduled to start filming later this year.”


He also recently worked on Night at the Museum: Secret of the Tomb, the third installment in that franchise.

In addition, Williams revealed in a Parade Magazine interview last year, that he took a role on the now-defunct CBS show The Crazy Ones because he needed the paycheck.

“The idea of having a steady job is appealing,” Williams told the magazine. “There are bills to pay. My life has downsized, in a good way.”

“I’m selling the ranch up in Napa,” he said of his $35 million Villa Sorriso. “I just can’t afford it anymore.”

hough Williams had one of Hollywood’s most enduring careers, divorce — from first wife Valerie Velardi in 1988, and from second wife, Marsha Garces in 2008 — had gutted his bank account.

“Divorce is expensive,” he recently said. “I used to joke they were going to call it ‘all the money’, but they changed it to ‘alimony’. It’s ripping your heart out through your wallet.”

With financial pressures weighing, the insider said that the cancellation of The Crazy Ones in May sent him spiraling.

“Robin slipped into a deep depression,” the source said. “He felt embarrassed and humiliated that the show had been a failure. It was very hard for Robin to accept. Here he was in his sixties, and forced to take a role on television for the money. It’s just not where he thought he would be at this point in his life.”

http://radaronline.com/exclusives/20...sure-too-much/

He called Palin crazy then slit his own wrists while hanging himself. Talk about pot calling kettle black.

May he RIP wherever he now is.

Explains a lot. Thanks for the post.

ROFL again they have stated over and over he didn't relapse.

reports state HE DID NOT RELAPSE.

You're a piece of shit.

I was apparently one of the 10 people on the planet that kind of liked "The Crazy Ones". :(

I seriously doubt money was the issue that ultimately did him in.

He was a text book case of bipolar disorder. It's been known for years that he had manic and depressive periods.

My wife and I actually discussed him a few months ago and she said it wouldn't be surprising if he killed himself in the near future. Bipolar people tend to self medicate (alcohol and they usually have a fondness for stimulants). They also tend to eschew psychiatric medicines because they enjoy their manic periods.

I doubt that's where it originated, but it certainly could be the straw that broke the camel's back. Money issues have been known to bring the strongest of will's to their knee's.

Possibly but I don't agree.

http://qz.com/248247/suicides-are-su...men-in-the-us/

thanks for the advice. The Greatest generation pulled themselves up by the bootstraps and I will too

I just think Robin should've been less vengeful towards Palin and Bush, Native. Maybe they were goin through tough times too. Did they rip Robin in public, no. He didn't show then empathy.


Plus you have told many people in DC forum to kill themselves so talk about rude Native

Maybe you should just be incarcerated until you decide to not be depressed.

3 hots and a bed.

How do you know that it wasn't?

Look. Penz, I'm sure you have had people feeling sorry for you and holding your hand all your life - and how much has it gotten you?

I wish you the best, and that "advice" I gave you was really well intentioned, not to be hurtful.

You're a ****ing piece of shit as well.

I'll be damned, wouldnt have figured you for a Cracked reader... best damn non-football site on the web, I've spent countless hours there.

I'm sad that Robin is dead. I wish he wouldn't have murdered the father of his children.

I wouldn't go quite that far, but his advice was a ****ing piece of shit.

His wife said in a statement today that Williams was in the early stages of Parkinson's. Wonder if that had anything to do with the situation?

You wonder? Of course silly.

Here's a link to the story from Rolling Stone:
http://www.rollingstone.com/movies/n...-says-20140814

I hope this stops the never-ending string of facebook self-assigned psychiatrists trying to educate me about depression.

I haven't bothered to read this thread. What little of it I skimmed (the 10 or so posts on the last page) is a sad statement of the way this board can infect any thread with its negativity and hatred. So for anyone who actually appreciated Robin Williams, for the love of everything please just stop.

Anyway, it's rare that anything that anyone in Hollywood does affects me. I really don't care what products they pitch or what politics they preach. Their personal lives are generally as interesting to me as anyone else who isn't my friend -- that is not at all. I realize I'm in the minority on this, else People Magazine, etc. would've gone belly up long ago.

But the death of Robin Williams did affect me. I grew up watching him, and he wasn't that old really when Mork & Mindy were on. A phenomenally talented actor, he could be both hilarious and great in dramas. When a life like that is lost, it's just a very, very sad thing. The world, I think, (paraphrasing his daughter) is just a little less bright as a result of his leaving us. The circumstances of his death, as well as it being so dramatic and unexpected (as suicide often is), makes it all the sadder.

I walked over to the Public Gardens today in Boston. As you may know the bench on which Robin Williams sat with Matt Damon in Good Will Hunting has become an impromptu memorial place. The pile of flowers left there has grown taller than what is depicted in the online picture I found. On the pavement in front of it are a number of quotes from his movies, as well as short statements of appreciation for him. On the whole, quite moving. An ever-flowing stream of people are stopping there to take pictures and reflect on his loss.

http://usatlife.files.wordpress.com/...g?w=1000&h=530

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Robin Williams Had Parkinson's Disease, Wife Reveals In Touching Statement
The Huffington Post | By Stephanie Marcus
Posted: 08/14/2014 2:22 pm EDT Updated: 1 hour ago Print Article ROBIN WILLIAMS

As the world struggles to make sense of Robin Williams' death, his wife Susan Schneider revealed in a statement that the beloved actor was suffering from early stages of Parkinson's Disease:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_5679283.html

Always loved Robin Williams. Was very sad to learn of this and especially the way that he died. Ironic that someone who was able to bring people so much happiness struggled so much with depression. RIP.

My mom has had parkinson's for about 15 years now. It is a god awful disease. If you do not have a family member with it, then feel blessed. Watching them waste away into a husk of a human is heart breaking. She has a very pronounced full body tremor now, as well as a severe tremor in her right arm (first place the tremors began). She also has a strong tremor in her left leg. My heart sinks when I think about it. She was a vibrant person with a larger than life personality. Now she is horribly depressed living out a terrible death sentence. The saddest part is tThe muscles in her face are almost frozen, so she can barely smile anymore.

grandfather had it
die from it
my favorite person in the world