Denver gave up, but I was looking at the plays they asked of Alex and was constantly thinking "a rookie could easily do this."

It's LOS-10 yards passes and running. A rookie QB like DeShaun Watson can easily do that.

Yuuuuuuuuuuuuup.

Geno Smith might even be able to do that.

....sure it is.

No they didn't.

You're just making excuses to spew your mantra.

Most of what you must be pointing to in an effort to describe Smith's decline is also... a team stat. It all is... as football is... a team game.

They didnt give up. They werent in the game from the beginning...

They are beat up, but i dont give a ****... They lost and we beat their ass with speed...

They don't depend on it, that's just another hater excuse.

You are doing the same, on the opposite side.

:eek:

nope.

try harder.

Team game. Every guy counts equally on this 53 man roster.

We owe our 11-4 record and playoff berth as much to Steve Nelson as we do Alex Smith. GOOOO CHIIIEEEEEEFS!

Then they wouldn't have won said games.

You have the Alexcuse crowd, the Hater crowd, the "its a team sport" crowd, the homer crowd....

CP has all kinds of folks...

Everyone is doing the same damn thing for their crowd. NO one is right here.

Naw, I'm done with you. You are a twat.

BINGO...

and?

happens every year to every team.

Ok, but there's one guy on each team who's more important than the other 52.

And that guy on the chiefs hasn't had a very good season. Hopefully, he continues to play well for the next month or so.

I don't understand why some of you guys take this so personal. I like alex. He's been a good player here, but they could get more value elsewhere.

and you're a ****ing crybaby.

good riddance.

make sure to watch, so you can cry over every mistake like a petulant child.

You homers never can open your eyes because all of the red that covers them.

We potentially have a Super Bowl type team that won't be because we don't have the QB to do it. It's even more frustrating when a douche like Grbac could put up huge numbers with the offensive talent on this roster. That could make this team even more deadly and not having to rely on freaking defense and special teams scores to make up the difference. And no it's not about "fantasy football" numbers even though their is a strong correlation between the two and winning. You open up the passing game deep, it allows Kelce to be more dominant in the under routes. It allows the running game to be more deadly. It allows the slants to work more efficiently.

This hope bullshit is just bullshit. The Royals and Cubs did it, excuse is crap as well. Those two built dominating rosters that flat out killed it all year. They were the best two teams in baseball from start to finish.

Sunday night was a great game. This team should have had more like that one. Instead we are going to be a wildcard team beat a Tom Savage led Houston team and get beat in New England (unless Brady gets hurt). Rinse and repeat. Welcome to the 90s with New England playing our daddy instead of Buffalo.

Other than Len Dawson and the two years of Montana, the Chiefs have had substandard QB and it shows. Only 3 times in 45 years has this team tried to develop a QB and have tried every other method - building the super defense and the super OLs. Same results, no Super Bowls. Until this franchise truly gets serious about developing a QB, it will never win anything of importance. And we have pissed way too many talent teams because of it.

nope.

How are "some of us" taking this any more personally than "you and yours" ?

Perhaps then, this is the guy that should be getting more credit for the team being 11-4 and yet another playoff contender?

stopped reading.

Fixed

By most of the people in this threads logic, Oakland is going to be just fine without Carr.

Oakland is ****ed, they are a one and done if they win the division without Carr.

Tap out expected.

:hmmm: So you are saying the QB is an important part of a team and teams USUALLY go as far as a QB can take them in a slanted QB driven league?

Im confused.

Andy didn't run his offense like this until he acquired smith though.

He Taylor's his offense to his personel. It's what good coaches do.

Rex Groosman took the Bears to the SB, Jake Delhomo beat a Brady led Pats in a playoff game, hell even Tim Tebow won a playoff game

Denvers offense is ass. Raiders can run it 99% of the time and still beat the Broncos.

https://twitter.com/RealMNchiefsfan/...98406711889920

On the int.

Maclin was wide

Would of been funny to see Hill run up and take the pass from Maclin and then run off and leave the old guy...

If stevieray was a Denver fan, I guarantee he would own a Tebow jersey.

"nah. I'm done with you."

nothing to tap out to.

it's the same old living in the past mantra.

....it's lazy.

So you are guaranteeing that they are changing the past this post season?

I have this team as a SB bowl team... Its loaded!!!!

They "changed" the past last year.

Best chance in YEARS to take it to the next level.

I recognize Smith's limitations, most notably an inability to challenge the back end of a defense deep. But Smith isn't the only limitation affecting the Chiefs offense in 2016.

The Chiefs are ranked 31st in drop % with 26 drops on 501 pass attempts for a 5.1 drop %. Last season, the Chiefs were 9th with a 3.5 drop % with 16 drops on 463 pass attempts.

I know timing is critical, but it's been noted on several threads that key drops have cost the Chiefs wins in close games. Add in the lack of a feature RB and below average play at the guard position and you get an offense that scores 31 TDs in 15 games.

the center is the most important guy on the team.

RG

Just 1/53. Colquitt has done just as much as Alex to get us here. Team game fellas.

Yep. Seth Keysor is right, Maclin played to his expectations that game. If Morse even bumps the rusher even in the slightest, that's an 80 yard TD pass to Maclin.

The strategy was not focused on going after the corners this game, it was exposing the LB and safety which Harris and Kelce did a great job doing

Wow. TOTALLY missed Maclin on this play live. I thought it was a perfectly thrown pass to Hill. Didnt even see Maclin.

He's the safest choice; therefore, id be shocked if he wasn't here next year.

I've lived with all of them starting with the 1971 Christmas game, douchebag. I'm just not a pussy that is afraid of getting emotionally hurt by a playoff loss like you are.

They'll find some excuse to keep him around, or they'll bring in another "experienced vet" FA.



That would be both incredibly sad AND mundane.

ROFL I'm afraid....."yep".

Oh just **** OFF, that's all. Just **** OFF.

So sick of this 'everything good that happens is pure luck against chump teams, and everything bad that happens is some super-duper important thing Alex did or didn't do at some point that ****ed everything.'

It's a team game.

It's four monosyllablic words, why do people CONTINUE to have such trouble understanding them.

He was open because he made a double move when Alex patted the ball. That pat opened Maclin up when the corner bit, but no one picked up the blitz and Alex was hit in the course of the pass a ms later.

10 year MVP and running...:D

What matters is that was a must-win for Denver and be stomped their asses.

And with two minutes to go we fisted them with Poe...

He threw 2 interceptions in the endzone in both games. When he's doing that it's going against his strong points of play here.

The qb is the most important position in sports and Smith's statistic this year aren't good. He's played good games, but overall, he hasn't had a good year.

Pretty sure his deep ball attempts/accuracy are up, sack numbers are down 40%, can put up clutch drives when needed, and completion % is solid. Solid deal for a 5 year/ $14mil/year QB if you ask me.

Oh and he wins.

Tired to death.

QB is the most important position in the minds of pussy Chiefs fans.

So if all that's going for him, why is he having statistically his worst season in 4 years here?

This clutch drives wouldn't be needed if they'd play not to lose for 3 quarters so often.

And in the minds of anyone who has followed football for more than 10 seconds.

So I'm a pussy for having the opinion that the Chiefs have gotten all the good value out of smith they can and should look for a younger cheaper option?

That he's having his worst statistical season as a chief?

He's been a good qb for the chiefs for 3 plus years. For some reason, he hasn't played as well this year, maybe due to the concussion, I'm not sure. He's also had a few key turnovers in key spots which goes against what he's done here in the past.

He played awesome sunday night, hopefully that's a springboard for the playoffs.

But they're relying on the broncos sunday to win the division in a year they shouldn't be and the qb has played a part there

You're such a wannabe nothing.

Like Polo apparel has knockoff 'Horsey Club' brand imitators, you should have 'Clatittle Wendle' tattoed on your ass, so you'd make some sort of memorable impression.

No, you're an egotist for narrowing down the fortunes of the team to one metric that isn't even complete for the metric you THINK you're evaluating, and for presuming to supplant your personnel evaluation for Dorsey and Reid's.

And all the 'we're doomed in the playoffs, I'm telling you now' crowd are pussies for continuing to wallow in the era of acid washed jeans for your personal fan trauma, then foisting it on the board.

You are the dumbshit trying to argue that Chiefs fans put too much importance in the QB position.

JFC.

Have you followed or even watched football during the past 30 years or so?

2016: 14 games: 17 total TDs, 221 pass yards/game, 66% completion rate, QBR 61.7
2015: 16 games: 22 total TDs, 203 pass yards/game, 65% completion rate , QBR 61.6
2014: 15 games: 19 total TD's, 202 pass yards/game, 65% completion rate , QBR 56


Consistent winner if I ever saw one

You're really bad at trolling. So bad you should stop embarrassing yourself.

No, idiot. No I haven't. :rolleyes:

You have the board awareness of a newborn puppy.

LOL

Yeah. Hard to imagine someone would argue QB isn't the most important position.

Our team has the best chance at a SB in decades. Relax and enjoy it. If you can't enjoy this then maybe football isn't for you.

No one said that the qb hasn't played a part.

IT'S
A
TEAM
GAME

He's a member of the team.
He's what the coach and GM want, and what the coach and GM want have us at 11-4, way better than preseason prognostication, and an exciting season already to boot.

You are the one claiming that too much importance is placed on the QB position.

No need to insult you further, you are doing a fine job of humiliating yourself with dumbshit statements like that.

ROFLROFLROFL

Quit trolling the board you asshat

It's like arguing that the piston is the 'most important' part of an engine.

Here, here's the piston of the finest Pagani supercar on the planet.
Now, take that piston and beat this SmartCar to the end of the drag strip.

Good luck.

Well, ok then. Douche me out I guess. :D

After this season, Alex salary goes up and they can get out from under it, gaining some needed space.

For 17 million next year, they'd need more than what he's given them this year to justify that I'd think. So far, 17 total tds and 11 turnovers isn't really getting it done.

Added to that the rumors about the chiefs heavily scouting draft able qbs last year and this year and the talk about moving on from smith if the season doesn't end as they hope, seems reasonable to put 2 and 2 together.

Although if they go for a rookie qb next year who will be cheap, they could keep smith on for the year and be ok in allotted qb money like the Cowboys this season.

Although if Alex continues to play as he did sunday night, it's not gonna matter as he will be here for a while, which would be nice.

Plus then I could keep wearing my smith jersey on sundays.

O.City is still sticking with his pick on Paxton Lynch being the next big thing. Anyone that takes his QB evaluation seriously must have an IQ in the bottom 10%.

Alex Smith gets back paid for the two seasons he played on a $8 million/year contract which was WAY under the league going price.

Over the duration of his 5 year contract it averages to $14million/year.

You mouth-breathing moron.

I understand your point. It's a team game. A QB doesn't succeed on his own and a QB doesn't fail on his own.

.. But you legit just said QB is only the most important position to pussy Chiefs fans LOL

QB is THE most important position probably in any sport on the planet.

For sure

I'm perfectly sanguine with them not enjoying THEMSELVES. It's their constant evangelizing to fans here just trying to enjoy their leisure interest that is the PitA.

Oooohhhhh, if we're playing this game then we're keeping Jamaal Charles. That guy put up legitimate elite production for peanuts for years.

Alex is and has been mediocre. His strength is his ability to just stay out of the way.

He's played 2 games behind a terrible ol.

He's definitely got some warts thus far, but it's pretty early still.

What he was trying to say is that a lot of idiot planeteers talk as if QB is the only important position on the team, which goes back to stupid shit Reerun was saying 3 weeks ago. So when the team loses, this select group of imbeciles cannot comprehensively evaluate a team performance and will waste their team criticizing only the QB incessantly.

Yeah, doesn't work like that.

And keep the name calling to yourself please. Thanks.

I agree. We a one of the best teams in the NFL, we are going to the playoffs, and the forum is filled with threads bitching. Its insane.

Charles also got paid for 2 seasons doing just about nothing.
Tamba is getting back paid fairly and so is DJ. Their roles as veterans to both play and also coach brings a lot of value to the team.

2016: 14 games: 17 total TDs, 221 pass yards/game, 66% completion rate, QBR 61.7
2015: 16 games: 22 total TDs, 203 pass yards/game, 65% completion rate , QBR 61.6
2014: 15 games: 19 total TD's, 202 pass yards/game, 65% completion rate , QBR 56


Consistent winner if I ever saw one

You're really bad at trolling. So bad you should please stop embarrassing yourself.