Absolutely ****ing this

I realize the logistics of the business and have no problem with them moving these guys though.

But tonight, I just wanna be a homer I guess. :(

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I have been a part of the <a href="https://twitter.com/Royals?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Royals</a> for more than 1/3 of my life. For that, i am beyond thankful. Kansas City has been a part of my upbringing. And im so thankful for that. From the plaza, to OP, to Independence, to PnL, i am eternally thankful. I hope to be here til the end.</p>&mdash; Danny Duffy (@duffkc41) <a href="https://twitter.com/duffkc41/status/941104323215290368?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 14, 2017</a></blockquote>
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:(:deevee:

Full rebuild is upon us.

Duffy freaking out on Twitter...

I feel bad for him...but the Royals must trade him if they get a legit haul.

That said he re-signed at a discount basically and gave Royals a cheap season this season...kindve be shitty that they trade him. As I heard from passan though you don't have to have 1-3 guys to carry the culture.

I prefer it rather than half ass it

I'm right with you, restock the system. Don't make any trades for useless sacks of shit like Neifi Perez.

It's disappointing but you can't put loyalty over building the team properly. It's why a team like the Red Wings are the trash heap they currently are.

Is Duffy being traded or did he just give up a HR?

j/k hope we keep him and he stays healthy til the deadline.

He's definitely super emotional right now like he thinks he's a goner

@duffkc41: Im already in tears. https://twitter.com/jcrockett505/sta...10076298838017

@MLBBruceLevine: Source confirms that KC has many suitors for LHP Danny Duffy and that the right package will get a deal done .Will the Cubs be among them ? First report @JonHeyman

Royals value:
2014: 490M
2017: 950m
Gain: +460m


So if he lost 80M, he is still up +380M


Source: Forbes
https://www.forbes.com/pictures/mlm4...city-royals-4/

https://www.forbes.com/mlb-valuations/list/

this pains me. but i've seen it coming since the DUI. GM DM's face in the presser said it all.

i agree with everyone that's said it. gotta get a haul for him. take everyone to the cleaner. EVERYONE.

One thing is for sure, I hope Duffy gets a designated driver when he goes out tonight.

He appears heart broken in these Tweets.

It sucks

You always hate to trade somebody who loves the team/city.

Except Alex Smith. **** him.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Several offers are on the table for Manny Machado - Cardinals, White Sox, Yankees, Phillies and Giants. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Orioles?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Orioles</a></p>&mdash; Dan Clark (@DanClarkSports) <a href="https://twitter.com/DanClarkSports/status/941126166596927488?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 14, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

In a parallel universe, he doesn't get the DUI, we re-sign Hosmer and keep Duffy and we go for a run while rebuilding. Unfortunately, it's like trying to lose weight while gaining muscle and we just tread water for years.

In this universe, Duffy's DUI gives GMDM the ability to not see Duffy as the golden child, so he DOES trade him, lets all the free agents walk and trades other players too. In 5 years, the Royals are back in it, and we sign Duffy for a 3 year, 35 million dollar deal as our 4th starter and we make the playoffs 3 years in a row.

The fact that they made the playoffs 25 years in a row and drafting low every year probably has more to do with it than what you suggested.

Ain't about the DUI, it's the elbow. He had TJ in June 2012, and the average recurrence is 4.97 years later. He just passed that date.


His 5/65 was heavily backloaded too. He got 5 this year, with 4/60 left. Given his TJ risk and heavy salary, he's a great bet to be dead money in the future.

@FlannyMLB: The Royals will pick 15th instead of 18th in the Rule 5 draft tomorrow morning because three teams in front of them are maxed out on the 40-man roster. Dayton Moore said they are definitely considering a Rule 5 pick but still might not see someone good enough to make a pick.

I won't disagree with that analysis either. Definitely something that's likely mentioned.

If Duffman can bring another Greinke type trade haul, we could be rolling again.

That Kennedy signing was garbage.

He had a good 2016 and got hurt in 2017, meh.

And nobody could have predicted they would start juicing the balls with rocket fuel.

@BNightengale: The Texas #Rangers strongly pursuing #Royals reliever Kelvin Herrera

I like that. Rangers have a lot of guys who match up.

Would be a good opportunity to see what it would take to get Profar and give him a shot to play full time for the first time.

More stuff

23 min ago
@Haudricourt: Heard last night that #Brewers have talked to Royals about their available players but was given no indication if any traction resulted from it. #Brewers continue to look for starting pitching, relievers and possible 2B help.

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@BNightengale: The Baltimore #Orioles, who hope to trade Manny Machado by the end of the week, are also strongly pursuing #Royals starter Danny Duffy

@BNightengale: The San Diego #Padres have become clear-cut favorites to sign 1B Eric Hosmer after two face-to-face meetings with #Redsox still lurking

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Royals have acquired RHP Brad Keller from Cincy in the Rule 5 Draft, and RHP Burch Smith from the Mets in Rule 5. Both for cash considerations.</p>&mdash; Jeffrey Flanagan (@FlannyMLB) <a href="https://twitter.com/FlannyMLB/status/941314487700918275?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 14, 2017</a></blockquote>
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@FlannyMLB: In the Minor League portion of the Rule 5 draft, the Royals have taken RHP Daniel Duarte.

https://www.mlb.com/news/rule-5-draf...ch/c-263427028

They will be sorely missed.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">They also lost infielder Wander Franco.</p>&mdash; Rustin Dodd (@rustindodd) <a href="https://twitter.com/rustindodd/status/941317507281022976?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 14, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Smith looks like a decent bet to stick in the major-league pen.


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Keller seems to be a big guy who throws in the low 90s, a sinkerballer who gets lots of ground balls.

Keller was 17 for his first year as a pro. He's only 21 now but wasn't very good in AA.

Big thanks to everyone contributing updates in this thread. Much appreciated:clap:

With the rumors of the Angels looking to trade for Headley from the Padres where does that leave the Moose rumors? Going to the Pads with Hosmer?

Ryan Lefebvre is going to hate this:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Minnesota <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Twins?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Twins</a> sign closer Fernando Rodney to one year, $6 million contract, reports <a href="https://twitter.com/CraigMish?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CraigMish</a></p>&mdash; Bob Nightengale (@BNightengale) <a href="https://twitter.com/BNightengale/status/941344966076399616?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 14, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Yay. Almost 20 games a year where Lefebvre can talk non-stop about how his hat is crooked and the bill is flat.

If our roster ends up where it appears to be heading, we'll never see Rodney except to get an inning of work in.

Steamer has Soler Power crashing 25 bombs this year (I predicted 26 last year, which I absolutely nailed, even if 24 were at Omaha)

I didn't realize he torched the PCL as badly as he did. Some very encouraging signs across the board there and he's had some periods of success at the major league level.

Gotta just stick his ass in RF and have him sink or swim at this point. I think he swims. There will always be holes in his swing but I saw him pull his hands in and punish some inside pitches with the Cubs so he's not completely helpless in that regard. That guy scared the hell out of me as a long-term asset for CHC.

I still think he'll be a good run producer.

@JonHeyman: Jays have interest in Lorenzo Cain. They’re believed to prefer a four-year deal. However he’s thought to have strong market.

@JonHeyman: Padres feeling slightly better lately about their chances with Hosmer. Their visit went well, they made an offer and see a real fit even if they’re a year away due to his youth. Kc, possibly Boston (tho they may go for jd) are other threats.

I still argue beyond PR they need to remain relevant and sexy enough to get a better TV deal next year

If anything, the last run showed what happens when the Royals are relevant. I don't think they need to prove anything to get a vastly superior TV deal.

And really, if they're going to dump and build, just do it. Bringing back Hosmer at that point makes no sense. And I suspect Hoz would prefer a different situation at that point.

I'm not mad about it, I'm grateful. It's been a fun run. I get the realities of it. Embrace it wholeheartedly and do it right.

What, they going to try and get ESPN into a bidding war with... who, exactly?

Mediacom?

He and Mondesi need their 500AB and they'll combine for 35 HR at a min. Tons of K but shit, they'll make $1M .... combined.


I'm bullish on them both.

no one trade salvy or duffy or paulo! Trade soria now please.

Way to go out on a limb on the top two young guys there which most are high on.

One of these things is not like the other

One of these just doesn't belong

Can you guess which thing is not like the other by the time I finish this post?

[B]Paulo Orlando[B]

Has absolutely no trade value. So he won't be traded.

That's been debunked.

@JonHeyman: Royals want big prospects for Herrera (naturally). For that reason rangers are disinclined to make big play here.

@jcrasnick: The #Royals have signed pitcher Mike Broadway to a minor league contract with a big league invite. Broadway has pitched in the majors with the #SFGiants and in Japan with the Yokohama DeNA BayStars.

People here are high on Soler and Mondesi????


Look, I know you're a reerun, but I can't rifle thru all the posts attacking these two. You're highly likely to be on my hit list anyway.

Lol Russian trolls have hit lists? Thought that was against Geneva convention re: no state sponsored assassinations :)

True though, the prospect glimmer is gone from both.

I think Mondesi has looked lost at the plate at the MLB level, much worse than Escobar, but he's only 22. He has a long long way to go before I'd start freaking out. He's still several years from his prime.

Mondesi will struggle at the plate this year...but he will be statistically better than Escobar in nearly every way. Not hard to do, but at least it's a position where we'll likely see an upgrade. I think DJLN mentioned Soler in RF. He's more likely to see action in LF. Boni is clearly more comfortable in RF and seemed to progress defensively last year. Gordon will see a few at-bats a week in CF and probably a game or two on the bench or at DH. Soler will DH as well, I'm guessing - especially if Hosmer is not retained - Moss will see more time at 1B if Hoz is not on the roster.

I've always been high on those two.

At least Mondesi might be good.

Soler... well...

The Duffy stuff hurts to read. I’m not endorsing the trade when I say GMDM is more likely to move him after the DUI, but I think it’s just how it is .

GMDM is the type of god fearin’ man who linked pornography to domestic violence. He also has a history of cutting and trading players after DUI’s (even heartthrob favorites such as Kyle Davies) GMDM seemed a special kind of pissed off and betrayed after that press conference.

If the DUI doesn’t happen, I at least wonder if Duffy would be off the table like Sal has seemed to be so far this offseason.

@BNightengale: The #Padres acquisition of Freddy Galvis certainly enhances chances of signing free agent 1B Eric Hosmer, who wants to play for a winner as quickly as possible

Hos desperate to end his long championship drought.

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Santana’s deal is $60M for 3 years with philly</p>&mdash; Jon Heyman (@JonHeyman) <a href="https://twitter.com/JonHeyman/status/941737407635972096?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 15, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Santana becomes the first big position player to go off the board. $20M annual salary is well above projections. Bodes well for Hosmer</p>&mdash; Jon Heyman (@JonHeyman) <a href="https://twitter.com/JonHeyman/status/941738008432271360?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 15, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Goodbye starters, hello compensation picks!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Source: Cozart deal with <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Angels?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Angels</a> is for three years, $38M. LAA just announced signing.</p>&mdash; Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) <a href="https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/941742345330053122?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 15, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Cozart will play third base for <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Angels?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Angels</a>. Reported their interest yesterday. This ends any chance of them signing free agent Mike Moustakas.</p>&mdash; Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) <a href="https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/941742918209064961?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 15, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Hosmer Moustakas and Escobar all to San Diego!

Couple of big pieces off the board there.

If Hosmer really wants to win right away, I think he's going to end up in Boston.

Cozart is a really nice add for the Angels. That IF D is going to be insane. Crazy range.


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So where are the most likely places for Moose to land if he doesn't re-sign?

I think the Mets will go after Moose. Heck, they could use Hoz and LoCain too.

You lose your first if you sign a free agent who declined a qualifying offer, right? What if you sign three or.four, you lose more rounds of draft picks?

Soler is talented..he never got consistent playing time in Chicago, and when he did he played well. Lot of upside

Preston Tucker got DFA'd by Houston

As a Cards fan I'd like to have him as a lefty stick with some power off the bench but if Solar can't get the defense figured out and has to DH, the Royals could find a lot of at-bats for him in RF I would think.

Hard to get consistent playing time when you are injured all the time.

No Hosmer for the Red Sox.

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This is going to be bullshit if these guys don't get their $50 million + contracts.

Some of these fools are going to feel real dumb not signing Hosmer.

We just resign them at that point, right?

Hosmer is going to be a Royal like I have said along.