i think this is the reality of having a franchise QB we may have not yet experienced

great things happen that do not always result in wins

sucks but this is the first time for this fanbase with someone like mahomes....

I wish I had as much faith in this team as Max Kellerman does. He thinks we are the team to beat the AFC and says our defense will get better. Dan Orlovsky brought up another fun fact! We allow 90 yards on the ground...... in the second half!!!!

Is he upset because he realizes he's a scrub?

Dude is doing nothing but showing everyone he is a backup/situational RB.

Max Kellerman is on some good shit...

There is no way you can objectively look at this team and think it's better than New England, Baltimore, or Houston.

The Chiefs allowed over 180 yards on the ground. 90 yards would be half. Why is that so shocking?

This :thumb:

Which one am I?

What a coincidence because I’m upset/mad too!

The offense has pride (their issues seem to be more focused-related with the penalties), but your statement definitely applies to the defense.

After that FG snap mishap, Tennessee was still facing the prospect of starting at their own 39 yard line and needing to drive down for a TD with no time outs and freaking Ryan Tannehill.

The Chiefs defense’s response was to essentially quit and offer no resistance.

Because we only allow on average 148 yards a game. 31st in the NFL

I think it's time to admit this isn't a bowl team, all that SB or bust talk was bullshit, we are what we have always been.

That screen is run by many coaches in that situation. You see it all the time. Belichik does it too. Most of the time that works for us. I would have run the ball, but I won't complain about that pass because it is common in that situation in the NFL.

I agree 100%

Resigning him would be an excellent idea.

Agreed but they put the expectations on themselves so this falls on Clark, Andy, Veatch, etc.

Heads should roll for this season to be honest. They pumped this shit all up and we're a worse team that is about to go into cap hell because they had to have Frank Clark and Tyrann Mathieu....

Idiotic team with idiotic management.

That's fair

I absolutely agree...sadly it more than likely won't and we'll have to deal with this bullshit yet again next season.

I can't wait to watch Patrick Mahomes and Tyreek Hill have to carry the band of scrubs to 500 for 4 years.

I wonder how Tyreek and Mahomes feel today

Zero chance I believe this unless the Chiefs start winning football games.

This is just ridiculous.

First of all, let me say that NOBODY on planet Earth is more disgusted with this loss than I am. I had bad dreams and had to meditate myself back into a state of semi-sanity by canceling out a barrage of negative thoughts. Having said that ...

I am 100% confident that, if the Chiefs had run the ball on 3rd & 2 and didn't make the line of gain, people would be complaining that "Wally didn't put the game in the hands of our best player, the MVP!!!!"

There were 3 crucial mistakes in that game and a few other errors that, although damaging, weren't as critical. The 3rd & 2 call isn't even in the top 5.

FAX

I can see Mahomes calling an audible on a playcall Andy calls in.

Chris Jones

Whatever. Lamar will have a short career running and getting hit. We have beaten him twice so let's not talk like we can't beat them.

Chris Jones has his moments, then he has moments where he loses his contain and lets Henry get a big hole that leads to an 80 yard run.

Andy and Veach should both be canned if we are not SB Champs after 2020. It's that simple. One more chance.

So you mean this year? Cause this team is in no question going to be worse next year.

Reid is too stupid to do this. Instead, he calls some idiotic play designed to fake the defense out and it fails miserably. But the real ****ing kicker imo is that the play was designed to go ****ing Blake Bell and not Kelce. Dude calls a play to a backup with the game on the line. MORON and inexcusable. Oh, but also vintage Reid. Guy needs a ****ing keeper to check his ass when he gets stupid.

It's always tough to call out a player when you don't know the call and/or the individual responsibilities on a play.

Nonetheless, it sure looked like Jones blew that play by abandoning his gap.

FAX

Yer darn tootin

Well hey you gotta do that when you think it's cool to role with jags at the RB position.

Dumbest post ever on CP. Andy Reid is the best HC the Chiefs have ever had not named Hank Stram. If we fire him we will not find anyone better and the team will take a HUGE step back.

He's Marty I hope you know that, we are going to be a perennial playoff loser.

So let's keep doing the same shit over and over again every year....

It's 7 years into this...same mistakes, the defense STILL isn't fixed, and brain dead decisions plague this team.

We have no idea who they'd hire or if they would be better or worse...to say we for sure would take a huge step back and can't find someone better is silly.

Damn straight!

We need to be clear that the major fail on that play was Ragland. He literally ran himself out of the play by his overpursuit.

He’s an exclusive rights free agent.

Andy Reid is #6 all time for career wins. There are only 5 coaches in the history of the NFL with more wins. But you say he "has never possessed the basic abilities required of a HC"?

You, sir, are a ****ing moron.

WHO GIVES A **** ABOUT REGULAR SEASON WINS...

It's like touting Division Championships as some great accomplishment...

Jesus, any time anyone brings up Reid's incompetence up it's always his regular season wins thrown back...

Just like Alex Smith. They really belonged together.

I agree with your take, but not that it was the dumbest post ever... I had heard the horror clock management stories from Philly fan about Reid, but I gave him a clean slate when he came to KC. BUT, the same shit STILL happens a LOT. SO, I completely understand why many don't agree with your statement.

this team has never been .500 under Andy

please go

^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This would have been the correct decision.

This team will also have never had the contracts its about to have, they never dealt with having the highest paid player in the league.

With that and some of these other insane contracts this team is going to be playing vet min guys and rookies to be under the cap.

I expect more from the guy who wants to make 20 million than the jag LB.

Correct answer.

well the day you have a positive take is the day i buy an alex smith jersey

What do you want me to tell you?

They have spent a ton of bank on Hitchens, Clark and Mathieu, they have gotten about 10% production for the money they spent. Shit like that hurts because now they won't have money.

I thought so too, just got fired up when I saw Mahomo's question.

I swear Erving has caused more injuries to Chiefs players than other teams have

You know what though? Positive or not, he's spot on. :shrug:

I want you to have a realistic take.

.500 is never in the cards for Andy.

he's not

andy ain't no .500 coach

In those playoffs he’s way worse than .500

What did he look like at the end of his Philly stint?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> OL Martinas Rankin, who came to KC in the Carlos Hyde trade with the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Texans?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Texans</a>, suffered a knee injury that is likely season-ending, source said. He’ll have an MRI today, but the belief is he suffered an injury to his patella.</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1193967772109328384?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 11, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I was referring to these posts. IMO, they're spot on.

Don't forget the money they spent the year prior on Anthony Hitchens. They could have saved allllll that cap space and this team would be just as well off without those players. I thought Mathieu was a great acquisition but he hasn't made the impact I thought he would. Either through his play OR his "leadership"

they're not spot on

you can't be "spot on" about a hypothetical

it's just more sky is falling bullshit

Copy and pasted post from Eaglesplanet?

They risked all those regular season wins when they fired Andy. It really blew up in their face. They will never recover.

Actually, yes you can.

If you throw out records, and look at each team when healthy.

Basic abilities.

Managing the game and the clock. Those are two of the most basic things an NFL coach does. He does not possess the ability to do either one. It has been broadcasted for the whole nation to see from day one. How you've missed it, I have no idea.

He wins games because he's good at creating Xs & Os matchups and a good Qb coach. You want to call him a legendary OC, fine, that isn't in question. It's also not enough to win Superbowls as a Head Coach unless his players carry him to them. Without the basic skills required for the job, he'll never be great. He's Marino, and no one cares but the stats.

They had one fluke run and what...3 other shitty seasons? I’ll take my chances with the guy who can consistently get you to the playoffs and Mahomes.

Even then it can be argued that it's not.... The Texans match up favorably talent-wise with KC on offense and have better defensive personnel. The Ravens also have very good personnel.

I told everyone before the game that the Chiefs are jinxed vs the Titans.

That sucks. That kid was really doing quite well.

So Mathieu deleted a tweet from last night that implied he was not happy with static he was getting from fans after the loss.

Today he turns around and posts more motivational “fluff”.
What a pretender.....

Cause they contracts were great investments.

Yep. Was a TOTAL BUST at Tackle last year, but seemed to find his way at Guard this season. Sucks.

The Chiefs looked like they were in a completely different class from the Ravens with no Hill. Are we just throwing that game out?

And they were on the verge of blowing the doors off Houston before the ref agenda took over to keep it close. Still would have won without a crucial turnover.

Andy has never changed, even when he believes he has.

The whole idea that this game means we aren't a super bowl team is stupid.

1. We will not be facing the Titans in the playoffs. Thank God, because we can never beat them.

2. We are still heavy favorites in our division. Win vs the Raiders and we will likely have a game lead + tiebreaker, virtually a 2.5 game lead over them, with 4 games left to go.

3. No bye week sucks, but week 17 might not matter and that can be a psuedo-bye week. It just means we have to win 3 games in a row. First game at home vs Bills or Raiders or Steelers - easy enough.

4. Game 2 on the road vs Texans, Ravens, or Patriots, game 3 on the road as well. Face it - we are a better team on the road somehow. Maybe this is what we needed to get to the Superbowl. We have Mahomes and our defense is a coinflip as to whether they will play good. 2 coinflips = 25% chance for the Superbowl, let's go boyos, we got this.

He REALLY is. He was so weird in Houston with all his tweets. I cautioned everyone here about his BS when he was tweeting crap when he signed with KC. Dude is mostly full of shit - much more bark than bite.

You might want to look at it again.

Besides, I would be quite happy with a “fluke” season like Denver and Philly fan had enjoyed.

That was then - this is now... How come you're giving the benefit of the doubt to the Chiefs, but not to the other teams? On paper, both the Texans and Ravens are formidable - your answer was to throw their records out and look at the teams when healthy. I am doing just that.

The same dipshits saying we needed to continue rest Mahomes because Moore has done fine are now saying we are too dependant on Mahomes.

:facepalm:

Yeah, I was always a little skeptical about paying veterans on D rather than really blowing it up and going young. Other than QB and O-line, not sure I want to give vets big money or give up high draft picks to get them. After all of this, we appear to be in the same position as last year -- it's all on Mahomes. Except this year we won't have HF and will need to win another game.

You do remember the crucial turnover that the Texans committed deep in their own territory in the 1st qtr., right? Hyde fumbled inside the 20. So, that turnover thing kind of evened out.

If Mahomes is as competitive as everyone on here claims he is i doubt he is going to sign a contract that will hamstring the teams ability to sign players.