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Fish 01-28-2023 12:40 PM

Ugly people shouldn't be on TV. LMAO you guys....

BWillie 01-28-2023 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish (Post 16768335)
Ugly people shouldn't be on TV. LMAO you guys....

Well I mean she could be a zombie or something.

Bowser 01-28-2023 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16768317)
Yes. She shouldn't be on TV. Butt ugly. Why kill the pretty black girl only to use this thing for the main role?

Best not to piss off Lady Mormont


https://i.ytimg.com/vi/pkTLCbzMQFg/hqdefault.jpg

backinblack 01-28-2023 03:44 PM

not liking a little girl character(in a post apocalyptic show no less) because the actress is ugly is a weird point of contention. Like why is that your focus?

The Franchise 01-28-2023 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16768317)
Yes. She shouldn't be on TV. Butt ugly. Why kill the pretty black girl only to use this thing for the main role?

I'm sorry that they didn't find someone hot enough to play a 14 year old girl for you to look at. You'll have to stick to your child porn for that, I guess.

BWillie 01-28-2023 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16768634)
I'm sorry that they didn't find someone hot enough to play a 14 year old girl for you to look at. You'll have to stick to your child porn for that, I guess.

The actress is 19 years old.

The Franchise 01-28-2023 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16768690)
The actress is 19 years old.

You're upset that the girl playing a 14 year old isn't hot enough.

BWillie 01-28-2023 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by backinblack (Post 16768612)
not liking a little girl character(in a post apocalyptic show no less) because the actress is ugly is a weird point of contention. Like why is that your focus?

I don't want it to be. It just is cuz shes so ugly you cant run from it. Regardless, I fail to see the amazing originality in the show. Zombies - from a virus or fungus - is the least likely of all possible apocalyptic scenarios. I love apocalypse movies that AREN'T zombie themed although I did think I am Legend was pretty good.

Also would have liked more immediate focus on how the world reacted instead of going
Spoiler!

BWillie 01-28-2023 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16768694)
You're upset that the girl playing a 14 year old isn't hot enough.

Do not want hot, there is no such thing in a child actor. Just not ugly so my eyes hurt. Entertainers are not supposed to be ugly. You ever see any ugly babies or child actors? No.

https://assets3.thrillist.com/v1/ima...peg_quality=70

A Salt Weapon 01-28-2023 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by backinblack (Post 16768612)
not liking a little girl character(in a post apocalyptic show no less) because the actress is ugly is a weird point of contention. Like why is that your focus?

That’s what I was thinking when I first read that comment too.


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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16768634)
I'm sorry that they didn't find someone hot enough to play a 14 year old girl for you to look at. You'll have to stick to your child porn for that, I guess.

Exactly! ****ing weirdo to even think about it that way.

DrunkBassGuitar 01-29-2023 10:26 PM

Damn that 3rd episode is intense lol

Insane that this is a show based on a video game

DrunkBassGuitar 01-29-2023 10:31 PM

Like I never played the game, I know nothing about the characters other than what they showed on screen in the show. I had a genuine emotional reaction to it despite only knowing Frank and Bill for like what 45 minutes. Really well written and acted episode

WhawhaWhat 01-29-2023 11:46 PM

It took me forever to figure out where the guy that isn't Nick Offerman was from then I realized he's the hotel manager guy from season 1 of White Lotus. They both killed it in this episode.

backinblack 01-29-2023 11:58 PM

seriously doubt that Chevrolet S10 is still running in 2023. It's 2023 now in normal civilized life and the remaining S10s are running on fumes and duct tape, let alone one that is supposed to get you from Boston to Wyoming in a post apocalyptic wasteland.

Joel even mentions he doubts the piece of shit

A Salt Weapon 01-30-2023 12:11 AM

That was a really weird episode and not sure exactly why it was even made. Hopefully we can all move on from that which clearly was added to meet some sort of quota since zero part of that was in the game.
However it was cool to see the flour theory confirmed.

dmahurin 01-30-2023 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by A Salt Weapon (Post 16777025)
That was a really weird episode and not sure exactly why it was even made. Hopefully we can all move on from that which clearly was added to meet some sort of quota since zero part of that was in the game.
However it was cool to see the flour theory confirmed.

It was a change to the story that did not effect the outcome at all other than to tell another really great story and fleshed out a character we never got to from the games. It was awesome.

backinblack 01-30-2023 12:47 AM

Nick Offerman is so great though.

Plays that Ron Swanson type character mixed with, well spoilers, so well. Such a great actor.

A Salt Weapon 01-30-2023 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by dmahurin (Post 16777068)
It was a change to the story that did not effect the outcome at all other than to tell another really great story and fleshed out a character we never got to from the games. It was awesome.

I wouldn’t say awesome, don’t get me wrong it wasn’t bad, we had to skip forward on a few parts because the kids nor I needed to or even wanted to watch some of the scenes. It didn’t stay true to the game which is fine, however Bill’s compound was one of the better parts of the game.
I really did appreciate the prepper surviving the genocide followed by creating the compound.
Some good, some bad.

L.A. Chieffan 01-30-2023 12:53 AM

Kids can watch violent deaths and murders but not dudes kissing?

A Salt Weapon 01-30-2023 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan (Post 16777137)
Kids can watch violent deaths and murders but not dudes kissing?

Dudes kissing is fine, dudes naked going down on each other is a little unnecessary, same way they’d close their eyes if it was a guy and girl doing the same thing

backinblack 01-30-2023 01:13 AM

eh it's hbo they could've shown more if they wanted to

you dont want your kids seeing that the nick jr app is that a way

Sure-Oz 01-30-2023 05:58 PM

That was a great episode... definitely emotional. They did get what was needed and got the truck/weapons. It wasn't exactly like the game which was way more tragic. It did not bother me at all with the changes made. Great acting, and great story. Good to get more backstory on the outbreak and bill's life. Really excited for ep 4.

BWillie 01-30-2023 07:15 PM

Are they gonna have ghey zombies too...because got dayum that would be frightening.

Stryker 01-30-2023 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16768700)
I don't want it to be. It just is cuz shes so ugly you cant run from it. Regardless, I fail to see the amazing originality in the show. Zombies - from a virus or fungus - is the least likely of all possible apocalyptic scenarios. I love apocalypse movies that AREN'T zombie themed although I did think I am Legend was pretty good.

Also would have liked more immediate focus on how the world reacted instead of going
Spoiler!

The show is far and beyond the LOOKS of the protagonist - it is a story about a mission and survival of "THE SUPPOSED CURE" of said protagonist. Play the damn game already to see what is going on. Jeezz!

BWillie 01-30-2023 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Stryker (Post 16779797)
The show is far and beyond the LOOKS of the protagonist - it is a story about a mission and survival of "THE SUPPOSED CURE" of said protagonist. Play the damn game already to see what is going on. Jeezz!

Im a man, im almost 40. I don't play video games

Stryker 01-30-2023 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16779806)
Im a man, im almost 40. I don't play video games

Ok, I'm a man and I am 59 - LOVE video games! Just bought a PS5 for the WIN! Point being, the game is incredible - a 10/10 one of, if not the, best games of all time. Story and devotion is top notch. If the series followed the game to a "T" it would not be worth watching because we all would know the outcome. This "world" is not only zombies, but, survival of the fittest. Clans and militia raiding survivors for loot for survival.

dmahurin 01-30-2023 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16779806)
Im a man, im almost 40. I don't play video games

Sucks for you.

A Salt Weapon 01-30-2023 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16779806)
Im a man, im almost 40. I don't play video games

I’m a man, barely over 40. I play video games. Last of Us was hands down one of the best games ever made. Get a PS5 and try it.

smith11 01-31-2023 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by A Salt Weapon (Post 16777025)
That was a really weird episode and not sure exactly why it was even made. Hopefully we can all move on from that which clearly was added to meet some sort of quota since zero part of that was in the game.
However it was cool to see the flour theory confirmed.

i enjoyed hearing linda ronstadt sing at the end

WhawhaWhat 01-31-2023 07:47 AM

Nick Offerman is the best.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Nick Offerman&#39;s theory for how he got cast in The Last of Us <a href="https://t.co/1aSPlspHpJ">pic.twitter.com/1aSPlspHpJ</a></p>&mdash; IGN (@IGN) <a href="https://twitter.com/IGN/status/1620251231376781312?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 31, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

SuperChief 01-31-2023 09:49 AM

If you watch the "Behind the Episode" for Ep 3, you'll see Druckmann mention when the show story would deviate from the video game story. He mentions when it's able to be clearly better - and in this instance, I think they nailed it. While there is a clear deviation from the game story (and as much as I would have liked to see BxE interaction as in the game), I thought it was so artfully done and really impactful.

Sassy Squatch 01-31-2023 10:14 AM

If they're willing to not stay to a strict one to one retelling of the games exactly I really hope they tell the narrative of TLOU 2 in chronological order instead of the constant flashbacks. Do that and take a bit more time fleshing out some of the side players and I think Druckmann could go an incredibly long way to redeeming what so many disliked about the games narrative.

The Franchise 01-31-2023 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16780646)
If they're willing to not stay to a strict one to one retelling of the games exactly I really hope they tell the narrative of TLOU 2 in chronological order instead of the constant flashbacks. Do that and take a bit more time fleshing out some of the side players and I think Druckmann could go an incredibly long way to redeeming what so many disliked about the games narrative.

You're still going to get the people hating on it for the simple fact that it has anything gay involved.

staylor26 01-31-2023 11:23 AM

Easily the worst episode, but still solid.

Sure-Oz 01-31-2023 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperChief (Post 16780572)
If you watch the "Behind the Episode" for Ep 3, you'll see Druckmann mention when the show story would deviate from the video game story. He mentions when it's able to be clearly better - and in this instance, I think they nailed it. While there is a clear deviation from the game story (and as much as I would have liked to see BxE interaction as in the game), I thought it was so artfully done and really impactful.

Agreed...this show seems like a directors cut to the video game in a sense. Loving it.

Gravedigger 01-31-2023 12:34 PM

I don't agree with the deviation.
Spoiler!

dlphg9 01-31-2023 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16767963)
Man, Im so mad. I was told by everyone this isn't just another zombie show. What the **** would you call it then? What is so original about it?

They also should have killed the ugly girl instead of the black daughter and switched roles. She looks like she was hit in the face by a log chain.

This is so incredibly creepy bro. Why the **** would you care if a little girl is ugly. The only reason I can think of is really peedo, so I'm not gonna say it, but damn you creepy.

dlphg9 01-31-2023 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by srvy (Post 16764110)
Why don't you have any self-control? Why do you expect that there won't be someone giving away a plot in a thread full of people you don't know? There is always someone posting shit that giveaway a plot in just about all of these things. If you are such a simpleton and afraid that someone will spoil it for you why even go to this thread until you have seen all the series. Protect yourself entitled lil tike nobody should have to do it for you.

Hey I bet you can probably happen on a game tread here or anywhere that will give away the plot also.

Holy shit, it's ****ing insane how out of touch you are. I'd recommend doing a mental cognizance test, but you've been this stupid as long as I've been on here. You're comparing people spoiling what's going on in the game during a GDT to spoiling things that haven't happened in a TV series. I thought you were trying to me at first, but holy shit you actually believe the shit that you spew out. I can only imagine the shit you flip out about IRL and how much everyone around you hates you.

Bowser 01-31-2023 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16779806)
Im a man, im almost 40. I don't play video games

BWillieGundy

WhawhaWhat 01-31-2023 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Gravedigger (Post 16781074)
I don't agree with the deviation.
Spoiler!

Spoiler!

keg in kc 01-31-2023 08:07 PM

You know, as uncomfortable as it was watching gay Ron Swanson sex scenes, that was another ****ing great episode

Stryker 01-31-2023 08:44 PM

Ok, we may not like (although I do not care - let people be who they want to be - I am non biased to white and black lovers nor do I care about same sex lovers - be who you want to be!) what was presented on the masses scale but, it did not bother me in the least.

This episode was a love story in a lonely world - the tag line was, in a world of loneliness, LOVE can be found. Love is what makes life worth living - regardless.

I love my wife and would do anything for her. As she watched me watching this episode last night, she commended me for watching the episode through the end. I responded, why? This show is brilliant! It strayed from the actual game but, it was an incredible episode! This EPISODE was VIEWED the MOST of the 3 episodes recorded so far. I have to admit - It was incredible and well done!

A Salt Weapon 01-31-2023 09:01 PM

I was really looking forward to the interactions between Bill and Ellie. Quite funny in the game and I think the actress would have killed it if given the chance.

TwistedChief 01-31-2023 09:20 PM

That was a truly exceptional episode. Standalone to the game and everything else.

This is really very, very high end television.

DrunkBassGuitar 01-31-2023 09:36 PM

Bill breaking down when frank told him his wishes was pretty brutal

Pogue 02-01-2023 01:33 AM

Episode 3 was basically a movie within the series. One thing not talked about because everyone is focused on Bill being gay or whatever but :


Spoiler!

mkp785 02-01-2023 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by backinblack (Post 16776991)
seriously doubt that Chevrolet S10 is still running in 2023. It's 2023 now in normal civilized life and the remaining S10s are running on fumes and duct tape, let alone one that is supposed to get you from Boston to Wyoming in a post apocalyptic wasteland.

Joel even mentions he doubts the piece of shit

That's what you thought was unrealistic? That's minor (not that kind of minor BWillie, so don't get all horny) to me. Why is no one talking about how Bill has the smarts to set up all those traps and has an army's worth of guns but then when the raiders DO come and trigger his traps his just sits in the middle of the street-with no armor firing at them?

You wanna tell me this super prepper wouldn't have thought to make some kind of vantage point set up with a clear shot on the fence on his roof? Or put some kind of cover in the street so he can fire without being a sitting duck? OR making sure that both spots are heavily armed and that he and his dude have access to some kinda body armor? I mean he had over 15 years I think before those raiders came, you couldn't piece together something that covers your body? Lastly I don't know why Joel and Elie didn't completely clean that place out of guns/ammo along with as much gas as they could carry.

The ghey love story was actually well told and acted, but did they make that because that rest of the episode made no sense whatsoever?

Lastly **** that guy who gave spoilers for TLOU2, I beat the 1st and was thinking about buying the sequel this week......

backinblack 02-01-2023 02:39 AM

was kind of a tongue in cheek comment, crapping on the old S-10s.

though it is interesting Bill still had enough gas for the truck 20 years into the apocalypse, and apparently to use on his traps outside the fence. Gas does not keep for 20 years, at least not the point of being useable in a internal combustion engine, he can find and hoard as much Sta-Bil as he wants it's not holding it up for 20 years. As well as having enough diesel for generators to keep electricity flowing until after his death, and natural gas for heat(and apparently running water? where's that coming from?).

He was pretty smart to pump the gas before he did anything else and before the electricity was shut off to the area(thus rendering gas pumps useless), which happened later when he was in the Home Depot.

Of course none of this is really that important in the overall story, just interesting to think about.

A Salt Weapon 02-01-2023 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by mkp785 (Post 16782895)
That's what you thought was unrealistic? That's minor (not that kind of minor BWillie, so don't get all horny) .

Lmfao

****ing killed the pedofile with that line. Too funny

dmahurin 02-01-2023 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16780646)
If they're willing to not stay to a strict one to one retelling of the games exactly I really hope they tell the narrative of TLOU 2 in chronological order instead of the constant flashbacks. Do that and take a bit more time fleshing out some of the side players and I think Druckmann could go an incredibly long way to redeeming what so many disliked about the games narrative.

That's a hard one for me with continuity vs flashbacks. I think kthe flash backs give it more immediacy in the sense of you see Abbie's past and "normal" it is outside of Ellie's impact right before that impact. It's hard to make my point without spoilers if that makes sense.

Sassy Squatch 02-01-2023 08:22 AM

I guess, but....

Spoiler!

ThaVirus 02-01-2023 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Pogue (Post 16782891)
Episode 3 was basically a movie within the series. One thing not talked about because everyone is focused on Bill being gay or whatever but :


Spoiler!

You'd think people would be the most valuable resource in an apocalypse, but I wouldn't put it past the government. They can't even balance a budget so I don't expect sound decision-making when shit gets crazy.

We didn't really get to see much of the collapse either so who knows if it was a good decision or not?

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Originally Posted by mkp785 (Post 16782895)
Lastly I don't know why Joel and Elie didn't completely clean that place out of guns/ammo along with as much gas as they could carry.

Lol I always think about that in post-apocalyptic movies. It makes sense to travel light in that hellscape, though. Guns just draw the attention of more fungus zombies too.

I was definitely hoping he'd close the gate on his way out just to keep that compound viable for the future.

SuperChief 02-01-2023 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by DrunkBassGuitar (Post 16782707)
Bill breaking down when frank told him his wishes was pretty brutal

From the NYT recap:

"It’s as though the opening montage from the movie “Up” were extended to about 45 minutes and then dropped into the middle of “World War Z.”

Thought that was poignant and apropos. My wife and I have been talking about this episode for days now. She's not familiar with the game at all, and I pretty much had to beg her to watch it before it came out, but she's really into it now. She bawled HARD during a lot of the last sequences with Bill & Frank. I was very emotional as well.

SuperChief 02-01-2023 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16782683)
That was a truly exceptional episode. Standalone to the game and everything else.

This is really very, very high end television.

You're not wrong. It's already one of the best things currently on TV. There's some really great stuff on right now:

Succession
TLOU
Barry
White Lotus
Reservation Dogs

I'm sure I'm missing a bunch, but those are S-tier for me right now.

staylor26 02-01-2023 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperChief (Post 16783613)
You're not wrong. It's already one of the best things currently on TV. There's some really great stuff on right now:

TLOU
Barry
White Lotus
Reservation Dogs

I'm sure I'm missing a bunch, but those are S-tier for me right now.

Succession is the best show still running (after Better Call Saul ended).

BWillie 02-01-2023 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Pogue (Post 16782891)
Episode 3 was basically a movie within the series. One thing not talked about because everyone is focused on Bill being gay or whatever but :


Spoiler!

Its scary because Bill didnt even know he was ghey until zombies. Perhaps the cordyceps spread homo through the air. Just gotta keep finding the cure.

But ya best episode of show so far. Shouldn't have killed off gay Ron Swanson.

SuperChief 02-01-2023 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16783649)
Succession is the best show still running (after Better Call Saul ended).

Jesus, that was the first one I thought of but forgot to put it on the list. You're so right.

The Franchise 02-01-2023 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by mkp785 (Post 16782895)
That's what you thought was unrealistic? That's minor (not that kind of minor BWillie, so don't get all horny) to me. Why is no one talking about how Bill has the smarts to set up all those traps and has an army's worth of guns but then when the raiders DO come and trigger his traps his just sits in the middle of the street-with no armor firing at them?

You wanna tell me this super prepper wouldn't have thought to make some kind of vantage point set up with a clear shot on the fence on his roof? Or put some kind of cover in the street so he can fire without being a sitting duck? OR making sure that both spots are heavily armed and that he and his dude have access to some kinda body armor? I mean he had over 15 years I think before those raiders came, you couldn't piece together something that covers your body? Lastly I don't know why Joel and Elie didn't completely clean that place out of guns/ammo along with as much gas as they could carry.

The ghey love story was actually well told and acted, but did they make that because that rest of the episode made no sense whatsoever?

Lastly **** that guy who gave spoilers for TLOU2, I beat the 1st and was thinking about buying the sequel this week......

They aren't just going to load up all of the guns into the back of an S10. It's the apocalypse. Take what you need and move on.

BWillie 02-01-2023 12:50 PM

Mmmmmmmmm. Whos buying this?

https://hostdefense.com/products/cordyceps-capsules

mkp785 02-01-2023 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 16783190)
You'd think people would be the most valuable resource in an apocalypse, but I wouldn't put it past the government. They can't even balance a budget so I don't expect sound decision-making when shit gets crazy.

We didn't really get to see much of the collapse either so who knows if it was a good decision or not?



Lol I always think about that in post-apocalyptic movies. It makes sense to travel light in that hellscape, though. Guns just draw the attention of more fungus zombies too.

I was definitely hoping he'd close the gate on his way out just to keep that compound viable for the future.

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16783724)
They aren't just going to load up all of the guns into the back of an S10. It's the apocalypse. Take what you need and move on.

Fair enough, but at least load up on ammo. That's why he had to get rid of his whatever bigger gun from earlier (gun guys on here can fill in what that was). Really they'd need a couple of handguns, something to hunt with, something bigger and nasty that could maybe be fired from the truck, a sniper rifle......and a ton of ammo. The gas should be also packed as much as can be safely taken.

I did play the game and other games like Fallout that are similar to this one so I probably am thinking about this video game wise. Obviously in real life a human just can't carry all that stuff. Ammo seems like an obvious one along with a gun for Elie.

The Franchise 02-01-2023 01:21 PM

He doesn’t want Ellie to have a gun because he doesn’t trust her. And lugging around all of that ammo would slow them down. They’re only going to go as far as the S10 will take them.

rydogg58 02-01-2023 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16783724)
They aren't just going to load up all of the guns into the back of an S10. It's the apocalypse. Take what you need and move on.

Exactly. Joel knows he's traveling with someone who has probably never shot a gun enough in her life for her to be of any use in a firefight. It's just him. He knows he's not going to stand a chance in a shootout with multiple people. The best chance to survive is to travel light and avoid confrontations. Carrying a bunch of guns that do him no good will only slow them down.

A Salt Weapon 02-01-2023 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by mkp785 (Post 16783798)
Fair enough, but at least load up on ammo. That's why he had to get rid of his whatever bigger gun from earlier (gun guys on here can fill in what that was). Really they'd need a couple of handguns, something to hunt with, something bigger and nasty that could maybe be fired from the truck, a sniper rifle......and a ton of ammo. The gas should be also packed as much as can be safely taken.

I did play the game and other games like Fallout that are similar to this one so I probably am thinking about this video game wise. Obviously in real life a human just can't carry all that stuff. Ammo seems like an obvious one along with a gun for Elie.

It was a M16 he left behind, basically the select fire military version of the domestic AR15 rifle you hear about all the time. It fires a 5.56mm/.223 caliber which is the most common and most abundant round currently, would easily be found in a post apocalyptic environment. Which is confusing for why he would leave it. You do eventually acquire said rifle in the game so maybe leaving it behind stayed true to the script.

Sassy Squatch 02-01-2023 02:16 PM

A bit annoying since BWillie had to be a creepy **** and make it about her appearance, but I'm starting to not care for Bella Ramsey as Ellie. I don't know if it's her fault or the directors or whoever, but this version of Ellie is pretty unlikeable in comparison to the game version.

The Franchise 02-01-2023 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16783919)
A bit annoying since BWillie had to be a creepy **** and make it about her appearance, but I'm starting to not care for Bella Ramsey as Ellie. I don't know if it's her fault or the directors or whoever, but this version of Ellie is pretty unlikeable in comparison to the game version.

I like both her and Pedro Pascal....but not as Ellie and Joel. It's just my opinion though.

Maybe it's because I can't remove them from prior roles, so I'm constantly seeing The Mandalorian and Game of Thrones or what. It doesn't mean that the show isn't great though.

BWillie 02-01-2023 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16783919)
A bit annoying since BWillie had to be a creepy **** and make it about her appearance, but I'm starting to not care for Bella Ramsey as Ellie. I don't know if it's her fault or the directors or whoever, but this version of Ellie is pretty unlikeable in comparison to the game version.

Yeah its creepy to point out that a 19 year old is indeed ugly.

TwistedChief 02-01-2023 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperChief (Post 16783613)
You're not wrong. It's already one of the best things currently on TV. There's some really great stuff on right now:

Succession
TLOU
Barry
White Lotus
Reservation Dogs

I'm sure I'm missing a bunch, but those are S-tier for me right now.

I've watched all of those and completely agree that you've nailed the top tier.

Sassy Squatch 02-01-2023 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16783992)
Yeah its creepy to point out that a 19 year old is indeed ugly.

No, but it's incredibly creepy to hyperfixate on the appearance of a fictional 14 year old girl.

BWillie 02-01-2023 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16784041)
No, but it's incredibly creepy to hyperfixate on the appearance of a fictional 14 year old girl.

If Mcauley Caulkin was as ugly as he is now he wouldn't have gotten the Home Alone role.

I know. Creepy.

Sassy Squatch 02-01-2023 03:15 PM

Whatever you say, BLoli

staylor26 02-01-2023 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16784020)
I've watched all of those and completely agree that you've nailed the top tier.

There's only been 1 season so far, but Severance on Apple TV is up there for me too.

Same with HOTD.

Euphoria is great too.

TwistedChief 02-01-2023 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16784218)
There's only been 1 season so far, but Severance on Apple TV is up there for me too.

Same with HOTD.

Euphoria is great too.

Funny. I was close to mentioning Severance in my response but it didn’t quite clear the bar to be on the level of those shows.

The finale was definitely as good as anything on TV though and if the second season hums along from that it’s definitely in that top tier.

staylor26 02-01-2023 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16784423)
Funny. I was close to mentioning Severance in my response but it didn’t quite clear the bar to be on the level of those shows.

The finale was definitely as good as anything on TV though and if the second season hums along from that it’s definitely in that top tier.

The finale was ****ing phenomenal. It's the kind of rare instance that a finale exceeds already high expectations.

ThaVirus 02-02-2023 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by mkp785 (Post 16783798)
I did play the game and other games like Fallout that are similar to this one so I probably am thinking about this video game wise. Obviously in real life a human just can't carry all that stuff. Ammo seems like an obvious one along with a gun for Elie.

Yeah, I mean from a realistic standpoint, it's one dude traveling cross country with a 12 year old girl. You're not going to make it from Massachusetts to Wyoming in a car in the apocalypse. Every major roadway would be completely impassable and detours would probably be logjammed/blocked off by raiders as well. He's not going to give the little girl a gun and she isn't a pack mule.

Joel has survived 20 years in this anyway and he didn't do it by playing Rambo.

Also, from a storytelling standpoint, having them load up on guns and ammo in a survival horror plot takes a lot of the tension out of the experience.

My best comparison for any video gamers is the difference between the earlier Resident Evil games and the later ones. The early ones were straight survival horror. Ammo was scarce, you had to spend as much time simply running away as you did shooting and that made it way more intense. By the time they got to Resident Evil 5 and beyond, you're basically superhuman with an arsenal of guns and it turned into an action game. Those games had very little tension or dread anymore.

Mr. Plow 02-02-2023 10:59 AM

Finally got around to watching episode 3 last night. Really enjoyed it. I could have done without the bed scene which I guess makes me a homophobe, but overall really good episode.

The Franchise 02-02-2023 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperChief (Post 16783613)
You're not wrong. It's already one of the best things currently on TV. There's some really great stuff on right now:

Succession
TLOU
Barry
White Lotus
Reservation Dogs

I'm sure I'm missing a bunch, but those are S-tier for me right now.

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16784218)
There's only been 1 season so far, but Severance on Apple TV is up there for me too.

Same with HOTD.

Euphoria is great too.

If either of you could recommend one of those shows to watch....which would it be?

staylor26 02-02-2023 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16785555)
If either of you could recommend one of those shows to watch....which would it be?

Succession hands down.

Mr. Plow 02-02-2023 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16785555)
If either of you could recommend one of those shows to watch....which would it be?

Succession is good, but we just stopped watching. Need to pick it back up.

Barry we just started watching and are really enjoying it.

So basically, I'm not really helping.

The Franchise 02-02-2023 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 16785752)
Succession is good, but we just stopped watching. Need to pick it back up.

Barry we just started watching and are really enjoying it.

So basically, I'm not really helping.

Sooooo the norm? Got it.

Mr. Plow 02-02-2023 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16785777)
Sooooo the norm? Got it.

Just trying to make the situation worse.


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