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kstater 11-21-2022 02:22 PM

Gah, it wasn't.

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kstater 11-21-2022 02:24 PM

Nice save

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wazu 11-21-2022 02:25 PM

Anytime I start to think I could watch this sport, I see one of those pathetic and embarrassing flop plays.

Eleazar 11-21-2022 02:26 PM

Good reaction save there and then a free runner at the near post. Feels like the goal is coming and the sub isn’t a moment too soon

Eleazar 11-21-2022 02:28 PM

Shaping up to be a dramatic half hour

|Zach| 11-21-2022 02:29 PM

The balls that Wales sends in on set pieces are all scary as hell.

penguinz 11-21-2022 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 16619862)
The balls that Wales sends in on set pieces are all scary as hell.

It's all they have.

|Zach| 11-21-2022 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 16619872)
It's all they have.

Hoping it isn’t enough!

penguinz 11-21-2022 02:37 PM

Would feel a lot more comfortable if we still had a Keller or Freidel in goal.

Womble 11-21-2022 02:38 PM

Stop ****ing diving. Jesus

|Zach| 11-21-2022 02:39 PM

There is going to be so much damn stoppage time

Eleazar 11-21-2022 02:40 PM

Haha. Should be booked for simulation for that

kstater 11-21-2022 02:40 PM

Oof

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|Zach| 11-21-2022 02:40 PM

Jesus

George Liquor 11-21-2022 02:41 PM

****

penguinz 11-21-2022 02:41 PM

Stupid tackle.

DJ's left nut 11-21-2022 02:41 PM

So....is USA actually good?

I keep seeing people say "Hey, show FIFA what's up and win this thing!"

Is that even a remotely legit possibility? Because this team seems about like every other USMNT.

MarkDavis'Haircut 11-21-2022 02:42 PM

We went full Marty Ball and Grudenheimer.

jd1020 11-21-2022 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16619887)
So....is USA actually good?

I keep seeing people say "Hey, show FIFA what's up and win this thing!"

When the women play, certainly.

penguinz 11-21-2022 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16619887)
So....is USA actually good?

I keep seeing people say "Hey, show FIFA what's up and win this thing!"

Is that even a remotely legit possibility? Because this team seems about like every other USMNT.

No, a good tournament will be making it out of the group stage. 2026 is the goal.

Eleazar 11-21-2022 02:42 PM

Clear penalty. Too bad a clumsy challenge like that was all it took to put the game level, but…

New World Order 11-21-2022 02:42 PM

What a dumbass tackle

kstater 11-21-2022 02:42 PM

Damn, guessed right too

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|Zach| 11-21-2022 02:42 PM

We really let them off the hook there

DJ's left nut 11-21-2022 02:43 PM

How you gonna be tied w/ JV England?

George Liquor 11-21-2022 02:43 PM

God he almost had that too

DJ's left nut 11-21-2022 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 16619894)
What a dumbass tackle

God Dammit, Bolton!!

Oh wait - wrong sport.

TambaBerry 11-21-2022 02:44 PM

****ing annoying we dominated the game and that's how we give the goal up. Sick man

TripleThreat 11-21-2022 02:44 PM

I have always despised Zimmerman... Dude plays in the MLS and isn't even good.

DJ's left nut 11-21-2022 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 16619892)
No, a good tournament will be making it out of the group stage. 2026 is the goal.

That was my guess.

And I'm guessing a tie here would still give them a punchers chance after England boat-races them if they can hang it on Iran?

Womble 11-21-2022 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16619887)
So....is USA actually good?

I keep seeing people say "Hey, show FIFA what's up and win this thing!"

Is that even a remotely legit possibility? Because this team seems about like every other USMNT.

Got more chance of CEH winning the MVP.

Gary Cooper 11-21-2022 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TripleThreat (Post 16619903)
I have always despised Zimmerman... Dude plays in the MLS and isn't even good.

Careless challenge. Just stand your ground there. Bale wasn't even a threat; he had his back to the net.

Dull Tools 11-21-2022 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16619887)
So....is USA actually good?

I keep seeing people say "Hey, show FIFA what's up and win this thing!"

Is that even a remotely legit possibility? Because this team seems about like every other USMNT.

As a foreign soccer fan, no they aren't great.

It is the most talented team the US has had but they would do well to get out of the group. Quarter Finals is about the best you could hope for.

It is a really young team so they should be in a good position by the next world cup.

penguinz 11-21-2022 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16619908)
That was my guess.

And I'm guessing a tie here would still give them a punchers chance after England boat-races them if they can hang it on Iran?

Draw today and we will have to win vs Iran.

TripleThreat 11-21-2022 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16619908)
That was my guess.

And I'm guessing a tie here would still give them a punchers chance after England boat-races them if they can hang it on Iran?

if we tie Wales here, we will be needing to Tie England and beat Iran to advance for certainty assuming things go the way they should with Wales vs England.

If we lose vs England it may come down to GD vs wales assuming both Wales and USA beat Iran.

Gary Cooper 11-21-2022 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TripleThreat (Post 16619914)
if we tie Wales here, we will be needing to Tie England and beat Iran to advance for certainty assuming things go the way they should with Wales vs England.

If we lose vs England it may come down to GD vs wales assuming both Wales and USA beat Iran.

Yes. This was by FAR the most important game of the group stage. A win vs. Wales was necessary to guarantee advancing. They'll be lucky to tie England and they should beat Iran. Then it's all about goal differential.

Dull Tools 11-21-2022 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TripleThreat (Post 16619914)
if we tie Wales here, we will be needing to Tie England and beat Iran to advance for certainty assuming things go the way they should with Wales vs England.

If we lose vs England it may come down to GD vs wales assuming both Wales and USA beat Iran.

Yes the problem is that Wales vs England is a big rivalry so England are more likely to slip up against them.

George Liquor 11-21-2022 02:53 PM

These guys never beat European teams

TripleThreat 11-21-2022 02:54 PM

Honestly this ref sucks. There's no PK if he was handing out yellows and calls correctly prior to that play.

DJ's left nut 11-21-2022 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 16619912)
Draw today and we will have to win vs Iran.

Yeah - I was just thinking they'd probably have to kick Iran's ass ("hang it on them") to advance on goal diff. Wanted to make sure I remembered the rules.

|Zach| 11-21-2022 03:02 PM

Disappointed with the passing in the final third after the Wales goal

George Liquor 11-21-2022 03:02 PM

That's a legit disappointment

|Zach| 11-21-2022 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TripleThreat (Post 16619934)
Honestly this ref sucks. There's no PK if he was handing out yellows and calls correctly prior to that play.

Yea. He got the PK right but every other thing was uneven and tough for the US.

TripleThreat 11-21-2022 03:03 PM

I was thinking this mid game and Donovan just reminded me via TV.

Where the **** was Reyna in a game where we need to secure the win?

|Zach| 11-21-2022 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 16619902)
****ing annoying we dominated the game and that's how we give the goal up. Sick man

Yep

Eleazar 11-21-2022 03:04 PM

Well, going into it I would have been happy with a draw but now it feels like a big disappointment. The penalty will be the story rather than the US standing up to a pretty good team and not breaking otherwise in the second half. But it only takes one moment.

New World Order 11-21-2022 03:04 PM

Well, we just tied a country the size of Gladstone

|Zach| 11-21-2022 03:04 PM

Acosta saved the American tournament by fouling Bale late when Turner was out of goal he would have put that in.

jd1020 11-21-2022 03:06 PM

1 shot on goal for the US. Guess it could have been worse than a draw.

Garcia Bronco 11-21-2022 03:11 PM

This team is pretty bad at passing, they are slow, unsure, and in general not very good save the goal keeper.

Eleazar 11-21-2022 03:17 PM

I’d say we were pretty good for about 60 minutes, after that the team looked tired and unable to deal with Wales turning up the heat, their physicality. We never really threatened in the second half.

But the win was still all there for the taking if not for the poor challenge and the penalty. A win would have surely seen us advance and we were 10 minutes away

DJJasonp 11-21-2022 03:18 PM

Hard path through now. Gotta hope for Iran to tie or beat wales.

Gary Cooper 11-21-2022 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJJasonp (Post 16619998)
Hard path through now. Gotta hope for Iran to tie or beat wales.

If there's one game Iran will be motivated for it's against the United States.

KChiefs1 11-21-2022 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 16619962)
Well, we just tied a country the size of Gladstone


It means more to them than us.

|Zach| 11-21-2022 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 16620004)
If there's one game Iran will be motivated for it's against the United States.

lol. Why is that?

|Zach| 11-21-2022 03:37 PM

The first half for the US was the best half of soccer the US has played at the Worlld Cup since 2nd half 2010 Slovakia or second half Italy 2006.

|Zach| 11-21-2022 03:40 PM

I think some are over thinking how hard the path for the US out of the group is right now in betting terms they are -125 to advance.

Eleazar 11-21-2022 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 16620004)
If there's one game Iran will be motivated for it's against the United States.

Did you notice those guys not singing their national anthem and such? They hardly seem motivated to stick it to the great Satan right now out of a jingoistic desire to glorify the Islamic republic

Womble 11-21-2022 03:45 PM

So it's basically going to come down to who can batter Iran the most and can avoid a hiding vs England.

WilliamTheIrish 11-21-2022 03:52 PM

Still disappointing. And using Yedlin? The guy is 175 years old (in soccer years) and he played very MLS-y.

I hope now they're ready for the style of WC play. It was obvious they were not ready for the 6'5" wing who came in after halftime. He really used his size to bump and cajole and frustrate our back line.

|Zach| 11-21-2022 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 16620083)
Still disappointing. And using Yedlin? The guy is 175 years old (in soccer years) and he played very MLS-y.

I hope now they're ready for the style of WC play. It was obvious they were not ready for the 6'5" wing who came in after halftime. He really used his size to bump and cajole and frustrate our back line.

Yea the Moore substitution changed the entire match

Eleazar 11-21-2022 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 16620083)
Still disappointing. And using Yedlin? The guy is 175 years old (in soccer years) and he played very MLS-y.

I hope now they're ready for the style of WC play. It was obvious they were not ready for the 6'5" wing who came in after halftime. He really used his size to bump and cajole and frustrate our back line.

I’m guessing England has taken note that we weren’t able to deal with the physicality of some of the Welsh players, we’d better be ready for that.

KC_Connection 11-21-2022 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16619887)
So....is USA actually good?

I keep seeing people say "Hey, show FIFA what's up and win this thing!"

Is that even a remotely legit possibility? Because this team seems about like every other USMNT.

I'm no soccer expert, but Canada finished higher than them in the CONCACAF qualifying. I would suspect that means nobody in CONCACAF has a chance of doing much of anything in this tournament.

BWillie 11-21-2022 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 16619226)
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I hate John Oliver. I hate him so so much.

BWillie 11-21-2022 04:09 PM

I don't understand why there isn't just a UK soccer team instead of Wales, England, Scotland etc. Dont they want to win?

Eleazar 11-21-2022 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16620120)
I'm no soccer expert, but Canada finished higher than them in the CONCACAF qualifying. I would suspect that means nobody in CONCACAF has a chance of doing much of anything in this tournament.

It’s hard to think of an analogue for what it would be for the US to win.It might be like Villanova winning the NCAA tournament as an 8 seed back in the 80s, beating a whole string of 1 and 2 seeds along the way. Even that seems like it would be less surprising.

KC_Connection 11-21-2022 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Razaele (Post 16620167)
It’s hard to think of an analogue for what it would be for the US to win.It might be like Villanova winning the NCAA tournament as an 8 seed back in the 80s, beating a whole string of 1 and 2 seeds along the way. Even that seems like it would be less surprising.

I would say the NCAA tournament is much more of a crapshoot (lending to the possibility of an underseeded team advancing deep like that Villanova team or like UNC last year) than the World Cup given the countries that usually win this tournament.

Eleazar 11-21-2022 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16620180)
I would say the NCAA tournament is much more of a crapshoot (lending to the possibility of an underseeded team advancing deep like that Villanova team or like UNC last year) than the World Cup given the countries that usually win this tournament.

Yeah, I agree and it’s hard to think of what the chances really are, of any way to quantify them with an analogy from another sport.

The US was ranked 16th going in, though today we saw them play well for a half but come away looking inferior to Wales, who was 18th I think.

If we managed to advance to the knockout stages we’d need to win four games in a row against teams that would probably be greatly superior to Wales.

MarkDavis'Haircut 11-21-2022 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16620144)
I don't understand why there isn't just a UK soccer team instead of Wales, England, Scotland etc. Dont they want to win?

Cultural pride for those regions.

Womble 11-21-2022 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16620144)
I don't understand why there isn't just a UK soccer team instead of Wales, England, Scotland etc. Dont they want to win?

If we had a combined UK squad there would be a place as a starter for Scotland's Andy Robertson at left back and a place on the bench for Wales's Gareth Bale and no Northern Ireland players. It really wouldn't make much difference and it would deny those Welsh, Scottish and Northern Ireland players the opportunity to play international football and represent their country within the union.

TripleThreat 11-21-2022 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Razaele (Post 16620216)
Yeah, I agree and it’s hard to think of what the chances really are, of any way to quantify them with an analogy from another sport.

The US was ranked 16th going in, though today we saw them play well for a half but come away looking inferior to Wales, who was 18th I think.

If we managed to advance to the knockout stages we’d need to win four games in a row against teams that would probably be greatly superior to Wales.

It honestly just depends... It would be shocking to see USA win the whole thing, especially seeing how much this young group needs to improve, mentally.

However, it's not really that weird if we were to beat England on Friday. Surprising? Sure, but I don't see it more surprising than NCAA 16 seeds taking out #1 seeds... USA has always had England's number especially recently whether England fans would admit it or not, the statistics of our past games don't lie.

The problem is winning consistently. Brazil, Belgium, France, they are true contenders because they are consistently good throughout the full 90 but this USA team if on the right day could beat any of the three.

TripleThreat 11-21-2022 06:20 PM

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|Zach| 11-21-2022 06:21 PM

We got here on the shoulders of MLS players having said that I am not a fan of Jordan Morris at all and love Gio. Getting to see him when he is healthy from watching Dortmund week in and week out is so much fun.

Eleazar 11-21-2022 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TripleThreat (Post 16620410)
It honestly just depends... It would be shocking to see USA win the whole thing, especially seeing how much this young group needs to improve, mentally.

However, it's not really that weird if we were to beat England on Friday. Surprising? Sure, but I don't see it more surprising than NCAA 16 seeds taking out #1 seeds... USA has always had England's number especially recently whether England fans would admit it or not, the statistics of our past games don't lie.

The problem is winning consistently. Brazil, Belgium, France, they are true contenders because they are consistently good throughout the full 90 but this USA team if on the right day could beat any of the three.

Eh, saying the US “has England’s number” is a bridge too far.

louie aguiar 11-21-2022 06:54 PM

It looked like they ran out of gas in the second half.

TripleThreat 11-21-2022 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Razaele (Post 16620471)
Eh, saying the US “has England’s number” is a bridge too far.

I get your reservation but out of all the teams in the top 10 id pick England to play against. You can stretch that to 11 if you include Germany.

Pasta Little Brioni 11-21-2022 07:57 PM

Embarrassing

|Zach| 11-21-2022 08:31 PM

lol so true

https://i.redd.it/swkdeyi9yd1a1.jpg

BigRedChief 11-21-2022 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 16620004)
If there's one game Iran will be motivated for it's against the United States.

Quote:

Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 16620042)
lol. Why is that?

We lose the players go back to their high paying jobs. Iran players lose, they go the Iranian equivalent of a gulag.

TripleThreat 11-21-2022 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 16620727)

I despise Zimmerman, well before that penalty.


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