Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16830311)

He knows they don't have the horses.

Look, I totally buy that certain offensive systems and play-callers have a huge effect on whether that offense is successful or not.

I don't think it's as big of an effect on a defense. If you look at all of the great defenses, they have great talent. Period. Defense is a more visceral thing.

Even the Bears 46 defense was named after a safety (Fencik, I think it was?), and worked primarily because of 1)a dominant pass rush and 2) the particular abilities of specific players. Same with the Tampa 2. Same with the 2000 Ravens. It goes on, and on.

The Bills defense looked really good until Von Miller got hurt and other injuries piled up.

Frazier knows they're not going to be as good this year, and if they tank, it hurts his career opportunities.

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 16830430)

Buffalo's window is already closing before they won anything and they don't have a Veach-like GM to effectively draft and build a roster around Josh Allen's contract.

Sucks to be them.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16830431)

I thought it was called a 46 defense because it had 4 down lineman but 6 on the LOS (with the 2 LBs coming down to the line and a safety backfilling into the LB corps).

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16830445)

He was actually right. It was named after a player. It was Doug Plank.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...-where-it-went

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16830355)

I remember before the season when that moron OKchiefs said Beane was better than Veach

LMAO :facepalm:

Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 16830440)

The window is open as long as they have an elite, healthy QB. They will need to draft better moving forward.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16830468)

I remember when someone told me the Chiefs should just draft DE's like Rousseau and whoever that other slapstick the Bills have.

Originally Posted by Mosbonian (Post 16830500)

Except Josh Allen is going to run himself into an early retirement with his "I can run over people " mentality. And one of these days when he tries to hurdle over a defensive guy who stands up in the middle of his leap he will get.hurt.

Not sure I would call him elite either. Until he has stays like Mahomes, he is just a distant second.

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16830504)

LMAO Man, you guys are way too stingy with the term "elite".

Originally Posted by Mosbonian (Post 16830546)

I reserve Elite for guys who deserve it....you know, guys who have won their division consistently.....been in at least 4 AFCG....3 Super Bowls and winning 2 of them...2 time League MVP.....2 time Super Bowl MVP....

Elite truly means the best of the best....

Come talk to me about Allen when he has even half of that.

Originally Posted by Mosbonian (Post 16830500)

Except Josh Allen is going to run himself into an early retirement with his "I can run over people " mentality. And one of these days when he tries to hurdle over a defensive guy who stands up in the middle of his leap he will get.hurt.

Not sure I would call him elite either. Until he has stats like Mahomes, he is just a distant second.

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 16830614)

You guys don't understand how enticing it is to run him when you need 3 yards.

It takes a tremendous amount of discipline to not take the easy route over and over.

The only way I would call a designed run for Allen is if the game is on the line in the playoffs. He needs to adapt and use his movements to buy time and throw.

Originally Posted by DJay23 (Post 16830664)

Or slide/get out of bounds. He takes a lot of unnecessary punishment for a gain of a few yards.

Originally Posted by Basileus777 (Post 16830736)

Allen's running ability is a huge part of what makes him a great offensive weapon, he's never going to willingly blunt that advantage.

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 16830425)

Doing a max restructure on Josh Allen makes sense. Beyond that, there are restructures they CAN do ... but do they WANT to ...

restructure
Diggs (30) to free up $6M?
Miller (34) to free up 12M?
Tre'Davious (I'm only 28 but looked washed after my ACL recovery) White to free up $8M?
Matt Milano (29) to free up $9M?

Do all of those and you're at $34M, which is enough to get the rookie class signed and make some smaller moves. It might not be enough to keep Edmunds.

They just don't have a lot of flexibility (and things could get PAINFUL down the road if they go this route).

Originally Posted by Mosbonian (Post 16830500)

Except Josh Allen is going to run himself into an early retirement with his "I can run over people " mentality. And one of these days when he tries to hurdle over a defensive guy who stands up in the middle of his leap he will get.hurt.

Not sure I would call him elite either. Until he has stats like Mahomes, he is just a distant second.

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16830580)

No it doesn't. Elite literally means 'a select group that is superior in terms of ability or qualities to the rest of a group'.

The term to describe what you stated above is transcendent.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16830877)

This describes it best.

Allen and Burrow are elite.

Mahomes is beyond elite. "Transcendent" is the perfect word.

You can't compare other QB's the Mahomes at this point. In any other scenario, guys like Allen and Burrow would be winning championships and would absolutely be considered elite. But they have to go through Mahomes, who is literally the best athlete in the world right now.