I don't even want to call it a foot issue lest people think of Sammy Watkins with a screw in his foot.

It was an ankle issue and he'll be fine! But yeah slower and less explosive than expected at the combine from everything I've read and the ankle was to blame.

It's Utah State! I get it. People see 6ft 205 and 4.42 and they start to get very excited. Nobody is pulling for him more than me. But he fell to the 4th round for a reason. He is considered a raw, project receiver with good size and speed. Scouts said his route running was not refined.

The good news is he says he watches Davante Adams. And he needs to continue doing so because his route running needs to get a hell of a lot better if he's going to start in the NFL.

That makes me happy. Everyone billed Skyy Moore as the best route runner since Jerry Rice.

lol who tf says his route running was "not refined" he wasn't asked to run a diverse route tree that doesn't mean he can't. Stop talkin out your ass.

The team says he's a better route runner than Rice was coming out, you're worrying about nothing n00b

His scouting report was "moderate burst to separate coming out of breaks". "Routes require more crisp angles".

Moore was the dumbest pick of Veach's tenure.

No shit the team says that. What is the organization going to say? Hey guys we drafted this guy who is a poor route runner.

Dude said he was the same thing as Skyy Moore he's being intentionally obtuse

Weaknesses
Just two seasons as a full-time player and producer in college.
Lacks desired suddenness to shake an NFL press.
Early vertical push fails to concern defenders.
Shows slight rounding of the break at the top of the route.
Average foot quickness and burst to separate.

Hey fuzzy


nobody is buying the nonsense


go away

Well, bye

Who the hell said that?

I remember watching Sky coming out and saying he had no +NFL WR traits and that included route running.

The only positive I saw from Sky coming out was a nice release at the LOS and that if he was going to succeed in the NFL it would involve winning in the first 5 yards.

I am certainly guilty of adding "quick step" traits to both Skyy and CEH when I couldn't figure out any other reason the Chiefs drafted him.

That and marveling at his huge hands which he proceeded to use for dropping passes

He suffers from a lack of confidence, see, because he's got those huge mitts, and so it makes his dick look tiny.

That's the whole problem.

So if he would just join CP, problem solved.

His number one trait that kept popping up in nfl draft scouting reports is how good of a route runner he is.

https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/...esternMichigan

As it turns out he's one of the worst route runners Ive ever seen.

That site looks like it is made from a dude's blog in his basement.


Could not even afford basic web design.



ROFL

Skyy’s best trait was his 10 yard split which was an amazing 1.46. That’s top 10 among WR’s in combine history. He also had enough size to play outside. Route running was just part of it.

Unfortunately that draft was total garbage at WR after the top 3 in the class.

Rice and Royals have similar traits that they looked for in Skyy (size/10 yd explosion) but they appear to actually be good at football.

Oh well. Can’t hit on them all. Skyy was a miss but Rice and Worthy are hits.

That is what is puzzling about Moore because in his first two seasons PFF and other analytical sites would always say how much yards of separation he would get. Which makes sense as he is quick off the snap. However as we have come to know he has an awful football IQ and is a horrible route runner. He gets open and doesn't stay open. Or will just whiff. Or will find some weird ass reason to **** up.

Wouldn’t surprise me to see Skyy Moore lead the league in receiving yards

Skyy Moore or Dexter McCluster

Now you're showing your ignorance... or trolling when you start talking in absolutes like that.

I think Moore did fool people a bit.


Usually guys that run the route well technically do well in the NFL but not always. Moore looked fine as far as what running a route is supposed to look like but in the NFL you need to be able to set up the corner.

Moore could not do that.


You need to accelerate or snap out of your break.


Moore could not do that.


You need to be strong on the route you are running.


Moore is not.


Recall when we played Green Bay and Keisean Nixon was covering him. Nixon was running Moore's predictable route for him...


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Sky's dumber than dogshit, Rashee as a rookie had to tell Moore where to line up correctly.

There were a lot of plays last year where Mahomes and/or Kelce had to tell him where to line up.

I am honestly disappointed that he still gets to put on a Chiefs uniform. I can't wait until he gets cut from the UFL.

I hated the pick, and was brow beaten into believing you-know-who, who claimed Moore would be a very good player.

Did he move to the UFL?

Even with the silly spin move, McCluster was far more productive

That tells you more about 'yards of separation' as a meaningful stat than it does Skyy Moore.

I've tried to tell y'all this, but if you're getting separation AFTER you're supposed to be getting it, how MUCH of it you're getting doesn't matter. Nobody's looking.

Moore NEVER ran his routes on time. He absolutely refused to run a clean, direct route. He was always trying to play playground ball out there and throw wiggle into his routes. So he was still looking to set up his break when he was supposed to be breaking into space. By the time he made a move, Mahomes had moved on.

Which is why Mahomes stopped even looking his way. Had he occasionally been where he was supposed to be, when he was supposed to be there, PM would've kept looking at him at least. But he didn't. And that was the why of it.

Yards of separation means ****-all. A foot of separation RIGHT at the precise time/place is exponentially more useful than 3 yards of separation when the QB is looking at a different route because when he looked at you, you were out there foot-firing.

Think about our WR room at this point: Rice, Hollywood, Worthy, and now Royals (and optimism emerging for the 5-6 spots.) that’s a hell of a turnaround in a two or three years as long as they’re all healthy and available.

I think it's like most stats: Useful in context, but difficult to keep in context.

It's also kind of why Hunter Renfrow has been out of the league. Shifty little slot who can do some crazy stuff, but struggles being "on time" in the offense. If he's not freelancing, he's not productive, type of deal.

Drake London had bad yards of separation and I thought it would bomb him and lol he was the #5 fantasy WR last season

London was a beast coming out with size and ran great routes.

The only thing slowing him down was landing with Arthur Smith who lost his mind in Atlanta but is now a good OC again in Pittsburgh.

Great post

To really give it much value is to overlook a point we've made in various different contexts -- the difference between a great player and someone who's just not in the league is ridiculously small.

So when you see a stat -- ANY stat -- where there's somebody that's out there doing things 50% better than anyone else in the league....you should REALLY start to question that stat.

Because the odds of Skyy Moore unlocking the rosetta stone for WR separation are...zero. Or Richie James, if we want to cite someone who's unlikely to illicit such strong opinions.

When you have these guys out there pulling up 2-3 yards of separation on average when the rest of the league is struggling to find a yard...well that tells you the stat is probably silly.

Richie James didn't come up with some magic way of running routes that Justin Jefferson just can't do or doesn't understand.

The margins are so small that if your stat ISN'T showing small margins, the problem is probably with the stat.

A 5'9" receiver who can't separate is utterly uslesless. Which is why Skyy is complete ass.

That only works if you are Mike Evans and you're huge and you just catch everything cuz you're huge.

I thought Skyy should have been cut year 2.


We knew enough then to see he wasn’t NFL caliber and would never be.

That is the thing though. He DOES separate at least at the initial point burst. I feel like he MUST not be very physical and get bumped off his route too easily. Combine that with his awful awful football IQ and just not understanding where he needs to receive the ball.

In the same draft year as Skyy was Khalil Shakir who was always better at football.


Shakir would accelerate out of his break and when the ball was in the air he was getting it.

Skyy doesn’t have that dog in him.