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The Iron Chief 12-11-2011 02:40 PM
This poll needs a fresh start after this game.
I believe enough is enough now its over Haley I pulled for ya thru all the injuries bad decisions but its official youve lost the team now.

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-11-2011 02:40 PM
Milkman is right that it is just rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic unless the Hunts sell the team.

It's becoming harder and harder to become a fan of this team, not because of the results on the field, but due to the obvious apathy of the ownership.

FloridaMan88 12-11-2011 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8190079)
The only real positive you lay claim to for Haley is motivation.
Yeah the Chiefs looked supremely motivated getting destroyed yet again.

What a dumbshit comment, but considering the source of this post to be expected.

Please explain how the Chiefs looked "motivated" today.

Back-up your asinine statement you pathetic dumbshit piece of trash.

splatbass 12-11-2011 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8190094)
No one cares about your opinion, bitch.
After she became a Raiders fan when Gannon moved to the Raiders she should not ever be allowed to be a Chiefs fan again.

chiefzilla1501 12-11-2011 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88 (Post 8190179)
Yeah the Chiefs looked supremely motivated getting destroyed yet again.

What a dumbshit comment, but considering the source of this post to be expected.

Please explain how the Chiefs looked "motivated" today.

Back-up your asinine statement you pathetic dumbshit piece of trash.
Because you're talking about one game and a game where the motivation was likely lost only as a result of New York getting up to a huge lead.

FloridaMan88 12-11-2011 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 8190196)
Because you're talking about one game and a game where the motivation was likely lost only as a result of New York getting up to a huge lead.
Have you been watching the Chiefs this season?

Buffalo game? Detroit game? Miami game? New England game?

Blowouts.

This isn't a one game thing.

chiefzilla1501 12-11-2011 02:46 PM
For the record, you know why the Chiefs get blown out so often? Because: 1) we have NEVER had a QB capable of clawing a team from behind; 2) because in most cases, we are so outmatched in talent that the only way to win games is through winning by putting twice the effort into the game as the opponent.

When you have to win by motivation, and not because of talent, that's a great recipe for disaster.

memyselfI 12-11-2011 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 8190148)
Could not be any worse? Give me a ****ing break.
Unstable and difficult to work with? That's probably why Breaston followed him here and Flowers, Charles, and DJ signed long-term extension at the price of peanuts to stay here.
On the OC front, again, I still do not believe for a second that Haley had any real choice in those hires. I think Hunt/Pioli were going to hire them regardless of whether Haley wanted them.

I would like to see a squad where the front office actually spends on players, instead of asking the head coach to make gems out of 5th round picks. I'd like to see the front office make a firm commitment to get the right QB instead of arrogantly backing the starter without competition. I'd like to see the front office not try to Patriotize every ****ing thing about this team.

I think Haley's a perfectly sane coach. Most of what is wrong with KC has Pioli's paw print all over it.
So Failey's a victim here? All of these things must have had to fall in line for him to be a massive failure vs. the massive success he's destined to be? People with winning records and proven successes had to just roll over on him. They had to no longer care about their reputations or their futures. It was all about ruining Haley.

Right.

chiefzilla1501 12-11-2011 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by memyselfI (Post 8190239)
So Failey's a victim here? All of these things must have had to fall in line for him to be a massive failure vs. the massive success he's destined to be? People with winning records and proven successes had to just roll over on him. They had to no longer care about their reputations or their futures. It was all about ruining Haley.

Right.
Not even worth a response.

FringeNC 12-11-2011 02:51 PM
Ultimately, Haley has to be responsible for the offensive ineptitude. Other teams have injuries, and play backup quarterbacks, and usually lose, but don't embarrass themselves on offense.

FloridaMan88 12-11-2011 02:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by memyselfI (Post 8190239)
So Failey's a victim here? All of these things must have had to fall in line for him to be a massive failure vs. the massive success he's destined to be? People with winning records and proven successes had to just roll over on him. They had to no longer care about their reputations or their futures. It was all about ruining Haley.

Right.
Bill Muir? Haley's decision
Palko in KC? Haley's decision
A club med "conditioning program" during the preseason/training camp? Haley's decision

Those are three reasons right there Haley should be fired.

milkman 12-11-2011 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88 (Post 8190179)
Yeah the Chiefs looked supremely motivated getting destroyed yet again.

What a dumbshit comment, but considering the source of this post to be expected.

Please explain how the Chiefs looked "motivated" today.

Back-up your asinine statement you pathetic dumbshit piece of trash.
I'm fairly certain that anyone with a single working brain cell understands what I'm talking about.

I'm sorry you don't have one of those.

notorious 12-11-2011 02:53 PM
Record setting offensive ineptitude.


For this reason alone Haley should be shitcanned.

FloridaMan88 12-11-2011 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8190305)
I'm fairly certain that anyone with a single working brain cell understands what I'm talking about.

I'm sorry you don't have one of those.
WRONG answer BITCH

You have no answer.

You throw out a dumbshit cliche statement about Haley having the team motivated and then can't back it up.

Please explain how after the fifth blowout loss of the season, the Chiefs still look "motivated" under Haley?

Explain yourself you DUMBSHIT whore.

chiefzilla1501 12-11-2011 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88 (Post 8190295)
Bill Muir? Haley's decision
Palko in KC? Haley's decision
A club med "conditioning program" during the preseason/training camp? Haley's decision

Those are three reasons right there Haley should be fired.
Palko in KC was Haley's decision. The front office's decision to not even TRY to bring in an able backup or draft pick to groom is 100% on the front office. Again, right now, we are crucifying Haley essentially for a decision to start Palko over Croyle and a 5th round draft pick, and that bare cupboard is because of Pioli.

"Club med" conditioning program. Big mistake. But not a fireable offense.

Bill Muir? I'm not a fan at all of this guy, but I'm still not convinced that this is Haley's fault at all. I think Haley developed an unfair reputation as a head coach who is impossible to work with, when in fact, I think the bigger problem was a front office that forced coordinators onto the head coach with absolutely no regard whatsoever to whether the coach wanted them in the first place.


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