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Hammock Parties 06-01-2013 05:11 PM

Did Matt Cassel tell you that drinking diet soda was bad, or something?

Pasta Little Brioni 06-01-2013 05:19 PM

I'll drink an occasional regular soda, but mainly only drink water and milk, so I can't comment.

Silock 06-01-2013 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 9724004)
It's not misleading at all. It's your argument that's misleading. What you are doing is trying to base your argument on an incredibly narrow interpretation of "cause". I get what you're doing. I simply reject it for the bullshit maneuver that it is.

The only bullshit maneuver going on in this thread is you trying to demonize something without any proof and then calling everyone else stupid.

WhiteWhale 06-01-2013 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Branden Albert's Huge Balls (Post 9723934)
Gonna go get another Diet Dr. Pepper.

Also fasting today, so no weight gain for me!

Willpower, how does it work?

Is this a joke?

Are you attempting to lose weight in the least healthy way possible?

Hammock Parties 06-01-2013 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 9724081)
Is this a joke?

Are you attempting to lose weight in the least healthy way possible?

It works for me. I hate counting calories and all that bullshit.

WhiteWhale 06-01-2013 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Silock (Post 9723992)
We're having a fairly reasonable discussion here. No reason to go down that path.




First, that wording is misleading. Sweeteners with no calories cannot directly cause weight gain. Excess calories are what cause weight gain. Second, an indirect cause, by its very nature, eliminates the root variable as being a sole source. So, you can't just say "diet soda indirectly causes weight gain," because you are ignoring the intervening factor. And since we know that you cannot gain weight without the presence of excess calories, it is tackling THAT issue that should be the focus.

Okay... artificial sweeteners mess with your liver. If you want to see how that 'indirectly' causes weight gain, you should research it. Your liver views them as a toxin. When your liver is preoccupied filtering out poison it has a negative impact on your liver's ability to regulate your metabolism.

Plus, we can talk about the cancer links to artificial sweeteners too.

No though... it's not the calories that cause the weight gain. It's the actual damage it does to the body. You can decide which is better.

Silock 06-01-2013 05:36 PM

My body, via fasting and diet sodas. I also ate a substantial amount of sugar. Clearly, I'm doing it wrong:

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/g...9/posttan2.jpg

Hammock Parties 06-01-2013 05:39 PM

What kind of cookies do you eat?

listopencil 06-01-2013 05:39 PM

I have eaten nothing but sugar for three months, and now I have the body of a god.

Silock 06-01-2013 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 9724086)
Okay... artificial sweeteners mess with your liver. If you want to see how that 'indirectly' causes weight gain, you should research it. Your liver views them as a toxin. When your liver is preoccupied filtering out poison it has a negative impact on your liver's ability to regulate your metabolism.

Plus, we can talk about the cancer links to artificial sweeteners too.

No though... it's not the calories that cause the weight gain. It's the actual damage it does to the body.

Yeah, let's talk about that.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8168806

"There were no significant differences in the conventional or spectral EEG analyses, urinary organic acid concentrations, and adverse experiences when aspartame was compared with placebo. This study reaffirms the safety of aspartame in PKUH and refutes the speculation that aspartame affects cognitive performance, EEGs, and urinary organic acids."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17828671

"The studies provide no evidence to support an association between aspartame and cancer in any tissue. The weight of existing evidence is that aspartame is safe at current levels of consumption as a nonnutritive sweetener."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11754527

"Evaluation of the anecdotal reports of adverse health effects, the first such system for a food additive, revealed that the reported effects were generally mild and also common in the general population and that there was no consistent or unique pattern of symptoms that could be causally linked to consumption of aspartame. Finally, the results of the extensive scientific research done to evaluate these allegations did not show a causal relationship between aspartame and adverse effects. Thus, the weight of scientific evidence confirms that, even in amounts many times what people typically consume, aspartame is safe for its intended uses as a sweetener and flavor enhancer."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15510910

"Based on detailed analysis of published studies on safety of aspartame, it should not be restricted, but used in recommended amounts."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12180494

"The safety testing of aspartame has gone well beyond that required to evaluate the safety of a food additive. When all the research on aspartame, including evaluations in both the premarketing and postmarketing periods, is examined as a whole, it is clear that aspartame is safe, and there are no unresolved questions regarding its safety under conditions of intended use."

Silock 06-01-2013 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Branden Albert's Huge Balls (Post 9724093)
What kind of cookies do you eat?

Oreos. ****ING DOUBLE STUF.

It's like looking into the eyes of God.

Hammock Parties 06-01-2013 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Silock (Post 9724098)
Oreos. ****ING DOUBLE STUF.

It's like looking into the eyes of God.

I like the chocolate filled versions.

Really want to try the chocolate COVERED ones.

listopencil 06-01-2013 05:47 PM

Kneel before your god:

http://theshakybakerblog.files.wordp...6/piecaken.jpg

listopencil 06-01-2013 05:48 PM

http://bakemydaybaking.weebly.com/up...15117_orig.jpg

listopencil 06-01-2013 05:49 PM

http://wleben.files.wordpress.com/20...0f63d1860f.jpg


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